RE: [WSG] positive-discrimination === not positive and IMG properties
On Tuesday, December 13, 2005 2:31 PM Nathan wrote: >I'd just like to point out that the alt text does benefit >everyone in situations like providing tooltip content You mean everyone who uses Internet Explorer. That's the only browser that treats alt attributes as a tool tip. "Modern" browsers, Firefox, Opera, Safari, etc. correctly only display the alt attribute if the image is not available. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Horizontal CSS based Navigation
On Wed 11/23/2005 1:48 AM, Jack Bennie wrote: >Can anyone point me in the right direction for a CSS >based horizontal navigation using 's and 's, >where the first Level of nav uses images!? You may want to take a look at the article "Css Sprites" on A List Apart. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/sprites/ It's a standards-based technique to replace image maps. --- Jonathan Bloy Web Services Librarian Edgewood College Library Madison, Wisconsin http://library.edgewood.edu <>
RE: [WSG] DW 8 & standards
On October 11, 2005 2:03am Samuel Richardson wrote: >On a related note, can anyone suggest a text editor that features >an auto complete (for tags and attributes). Also, if it had Dreamweavers >ability to select blocks of tags (from open tag to close tag and >everything in between) that would be fantastic. My favorite editor is TSW Webcoder. http://www.tsware.net/ It includes autocomplete. And is very customizable. For example, you can create your own toolbar buttons for whatever tags you want. Plus it's free (as long as you register). --- Jonathan Bloy Web Services Librarian Edgewood College Madison, Wisconsin http://library.edgewood.edu ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] AOL browser bug
On September 16, 2005 6:36 AM Duncan Stigwood wrote: >Which version of IE does AOL use and is there a way of >installing it to check for bugs? It's a positioning bug >which I thought i'd fixed for IE. Each new version of AOL uses whatever version of IE that was new at the time. Installing AOL also installs IE (the version that's on the AOL disc). Take a look at your friends computer and see what version of IE is there. That's the rendering engine his AOL is using. Hope that makes sense. There is a way to install multiple versions of I.E. on Win machines. Here's a page that links to the instructions and the files you need. http://www.skyzyx.com/archives/94.php --- Jonathan Bloy Web Services Librarian Edgewood College Madison, Wisconsin http://library.edgewood.edu ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Online Resources for HTML Beginners
On August 28, 2005 10:11 PM John Horner wrote: >Just to note that we've got fourteen posts and only three >recommendations of online resources... While not strictly for beginners, when I was starting out I found reading more advanced articles at http://www.alistapart.com helped me improve my understanding of more complex concepts. As an aside, A List Apart now sports a classy new design. --- Jonathan Bloy Web Services Librarian Edgewood College Madison, Wisconsin http://library.edgewood.edu ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Hiding styles from IE5?
On Wednesday, June 22, 2005 12:22pm, Roberto Gorjão wrote: >I really think, in my very humble opinion, that it's hard to make a website >to function in IE 5.0, unless my "multiple IE" testing method provides me with > >It's a shame that the @import doesn't hide styles from these versions >of IE. It would make things a lot easier... If you do an @import with the following syntax (single quotes, no parethesis), IE5.5 and up get the file, but IE5 doesn't. @import'stylesheet.css'; My newest method is to include a link to a style sheet called 'filter.css.' Then all the filter.css file has is the @import statement above. That way only modern browsers (and IE5.5 and up) see the style sheet. Other browsers will just get the unstyled markup. You may want to find out the percentage of your audience that's using those older browsers. For my sites, I find it's so low I don't worry about it. - Jonathan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility
On Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:50pm, Lea de Groot wrote: >I've seen a couple of sites with a very nice tab interface >whereby the 'skip' link became visible on the first tab, >but was hidden if that didnt happen. I think Mike Pepper >does it at http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/ That's the method I use too. I like to make sure the skip link is very visible (once the tab key is hit). Here's an example from one of my recent sites. http://www.cudahyfamilylibrary.org/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?
On April 12, 2005 4:01 AM, Nick Gleitzman wrote: >I find this simple question works really well to couch Standards in terms >that clients can understand: > >'Do you want your site to work yesterday, or tomorrow?' > >Guess what the answer is, 100% of the time. > >You can elaborate a little by explaining that Standards-based code will >work on browsing devices that haven't even been invented yet - and that >this will surely represent financial economy when a site doesn't have to >be rebuilt for emerging technology. I like this approach and it is pretty much the one I take. I should mention that Web Design is more of a hobby for me. So, I've only had a few clients of my own. But I wonder about the need to go into detail with clients about web standards. I think web standards are important to mention and if the client asks more about them you can certainly go into detail. But does your plumber or electrician go into long explanations about the standards they use when they're working for you? When I hire a professional I'm paying them to use their knowledge and expertise to choose the best "standards" that are right for the job, not to ask me what techniques I think they should use. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Extra hidden content
>Stevio wrote: > How do you handle the situation of hidden elements becoming displayed > when the normal stylesheet is not used? >Patrick wrote: >Pages should make sense when stylesheets are disabled (for users of screenreaders, >text-only >browsers, users with css disabled, search engine spiders, etc)...so >I'd advise against the above mentioned practice. Once in a while I have done this, but only using an image. For example a large header image I want displayed on screen and then a smaller header image that will show up when printed. In that case I'll make the alt attribute on the printed img tag empty (alt="") so a text-only browser will not "read" the printed image. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] 3 cols width any column longest and no div clear
On March 16, 2005 5:21 AM, Carlos Rincon wrote: > >Anyone knows a 3 col model with any column longest and no div clear? > >I don't know the height of any column neither which will be the >longest but i know the width of all columns (it's no liquid). I'm not sure if any of these exactly fit your criteria, but there are a lot of three column examples on the css-discuss wiki. http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=ThreeColumnLayouts HTH --- Jonathan Bloy Web Services Librarian Edgewood College, Madison Wisconsin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Redundant Code
On Monday, March 14, 2005 5:44pm, Sigurd Magnusson wrote: > >Don't know the maximum number of pixels a page can have; it very likely >depends on the user agent. I would have thought the most robust way is >to have a fluid design; which led me to an idea--having a fluid design >only in the print media type :P I wonder if anyone's done that?? I've had good luck with using 'width: auto' in the print style sheet for content areas that get cut off at the side of the page. Jonathan ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] TWS WebCoder (was: Help - newbie)
On January 19, 2005 9:07am Chris Stratford wrote: > >I LOVE TSW WebCoder. > >TSWare does have syntax highlighting... >it has LOTS of support... >Built in FTP is Excellent! Built in Project Manager, >Preview in IE and Mozilla, HTML Tidy is built in. >Built in HTML/CSS Validator > >I could go on more and more... >i LOVE TSW Webcoder! >I would recommend it to ANYONE!!! >I love it. >www.tsware.net Thanks for mentioning this Chris. I've been a loyal user of Homesite for the past 5 years or so and having just started a new job, I've been trying (unsuccessfully) to convince the IT department to purchase a copy for me. The college's "standard" web application is MS FrontPage. I want to move the site I'm responsible for into the web standards age and after Chris' enthusiastic endorsement of WebCoder I decided to download it and give it a try. What a nice program! I've tried a lot of editors and I always end up going back to Homesite.So far I've spent about the last hour playing around with it and I am very impressed. I'll probably end up using it at home for my free lance work too. The free aspect is great and I really like the extended search and replace function (a feature that Homesite has, but I haven't seen in any other html editor). Chalk up another endorsement for TSW WebCoder! --- Jonathan Bloy Web Services Librarian Edgewood College http://library.edgewood.edu ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
