Re: [WSG] media queries: device-width vs max/min width

2011-09-25 Thread Joseph Taylor
Tee, I agree with your thinking regarding a desktop user getting the 320px wide layout. It can seem silly. At the same time, responsive design isn't supposed to be something visible but something invisible. I doubt desktop users are ever resizing their browser windows and gasping in

Re: [WSG] Breaking validation using noscript - Is there a solution?

2011-07-14 Thread Joseph Taylor
Not sure what to recommend for the noscript tag - Frank's idea is pretty good. Just a thought, is the error really critical if it works? Using XHTML Strict, you're gonna have a tough time making the validator happy. Nice job on the Tesco site by the way. Real nice. I especially like the two

Re: [WSG] mobile

2011-06-09 Thread Joseph Taylor
I found the prev/next navigation in the portfolio confusing. I was expecting them to be side by side and at the bottom of the entry rather than bundled in the main nav. Sent via iPhone: Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer --- Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple

Re: [WSG] the image is not showing in IE7

2011-06-03 Thread Joseph Taylor
Try losing the double quotes like: win.document.write('body style=background-color: #EBF2FA;h4Loading.../h4img src=ajax-loader.gif style=border:1px solid;/body'); If you have a url we can look at it might help. Is IE throwing any errors? *Joseph R. B. Taylor* /Web Designer/Developer/

Re: [WSG] Numbers groups like links - mobile

2011-01-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
You can wrap the phone numbers in an anchor tag: a href=""1234567890/a The "tel:" is sorta like the "mailto:" in a link but for phones. Joseph R. B. Taylor Web Designer/Developer --

Re: [WSG] Numbers groups like links - mobile

2011-01-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
phone number rather than a product code. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Joseph Taylor j...@sitesbyjoe.com wrote: You can wrap the phone numbers in an anchor tag: a href=""1234567890/

Re: [WSG] HTML5 v. HTML 4.x

2011-01-24 Thread Joseph Taylor
I use HTML5 as my doctype, but I don't use the new tags. It's wise to be very concerned about backwards compatibility. Are they more semantic - I suppose. If IE doesn't understand the new tags I'd leave them be until another day. *Joseph R. B. Taylor* /Web Designer/Developer/

Re: [WSG] Lightbox++ and mobiles etc

2011-01-18 Thread Joseph Taylor
If you're using a lightbox you must have some javascript in there somewhere so: You can use javascript to detect your viewport size and only fire your lightboxes if it's of a certain size. *Joseph R. B. Taylor* /Web Designer/Developer/ -- Sites by Joe

Re: [WSG] mobile

2010-12-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
Looks superb on my iPhone! Sent via iPhone: Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer --- Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple Elegant Web Design http://sitesbyjoe.com Phone: (609) 335-3076 On Dec 29, 2010, at 3:16 PM, David Laakso da...@chelseacreekstudio.com wrote: If

Re: [WSG] disallow IE6 to load the main style sheet

2010-12-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
IE6 would not load the stylesheet if set up the line of HTML like this: !--[if (gt IE 6)|!(IE)]!-- main stylesheet goes here !--![endif]-- Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone:

Re: [WSG] disallow IE6 to load the main style sheet

2010-12-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
My 2 cents, Your approach towards IE6 should be dictated by your site's audience. Watch your stats. If you have a lot of IE6 visitors, don't they deserve a decent page? If they're potential customers, wouldn't you want them to go through and make a transaction? Think of the poor people

Re: [WSG] images against color backgrounds

2010-12-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
.png with alpha channel is the best way to go. IE6 and lower can't handle the alpha channel and make the transparent background gray. Based on my site audience I'll make fallback .gif replacements for the .png images (that look crappier but are at least transparent) You can also make 8 bit

Re: [WSG] images against color backgrounds

2010-12-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
Good point on the javascript repairs (there are a couple techniques of fixing .png support in IE6) Trouble with this method is it can cause other troubles (like links over .png backgrounds etc) so be careful. It all depends on what you're trying to do. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer /

Re: [WSG] Fixed-position menus?

2010-11-23 Thread Joseph Taylor
Cat, You can always use javascript to move the menu as you scroll to overcome IE6 lacking. As far as how important is IE6? I guess that depends on your audience. The sites I work on have a (sadly) large percentage of IE6 users (10% +/-) Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/

Re: [WSG] HTML5 - Marking up forms

2010-11-10 Thread Joseph Taylor
Eric, There are a ton of ways to do this. At the moment I stick with one of two formulas: fieldset legendMy Legend/legend div label for=My FieldMy Label/label input type=text name=My Field /div /fieldset Or if its a bunch of checkboxes or something: fieldset legendMy Legend/legend div label

Re: [WSG] HTML5 - Marking up forms

2010-11-10 Thread Joseph Taylor
IE8 and earlier Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 11/10/10 3:45 PM, Kevin Rapley wrote: I would be

Re: [WSG] Where are we with Frames?

2010-10-25 Thread Joseph Taylor
I'm sure this group would agree they are pretty much a no-no. Sent via iPhone: Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer --- Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple Elegant Web Design http://sitesbyjoe.com Phone: (609) 335-3076 On Oct 25, 2010, at 8:25 PM, cat soul

Re: [WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
it. In regards of touchscreen, this article explains it better than I can do. http://trentwalton.com/2010/07/05/non-hover/ tee On Oct 19, 2010, at 1:46 PM, Joseph Taylor wrote: You could certainly do that with CSS. You'll want to add javascript to control how the image shows and fades, positioning

Re: [WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
, and perhaps it's going to remain a bucket of stinky fish guts into the foreseeable future. cs On Oct 20, 2010, at 8:16 AM, Joseph Taylor wrote: Good questions. I have yet to see definitive answers for most of these questions. I've been thinking on this constantly as I try to alter my

Re: [WSG] CSS, :hover and touch screen devices (Was: CSS rollovers for images?)

2010-10-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
Cat, That's the holy trinity of web design: content, presentation and behavior. ;) Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email:

Re: [WSG] CSS rollovers for images?

2010-10-19 Thread Joseph Taylor
You could certainly do that with CSS. You'll want to add javascript to control how the image shows and fades, positioning etc. For maximum accessibility, have the thumbnail link to the main image, then have your Javscript/CSS hijack the link and show the image. Everyone wins. Joseph R. B.

Re: [WSG] Long documents

2010-10-16 Thread Joseph Taylor
I personally haven't encountered any standards describing such, but it's very common to see long articles break into multiple pages. Also creates more ad places if that's your thing. Others in the group might think differently of course. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/

Re: [WSG] HELP WITH SETTING UP A CMS PROJECT

2010-09-15 Thread Joseph Taylor
Mark, Marvin has been a member of this group for a long time and he's to be commended for his never-ceasing efforts to develop websites without the gift of sight. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and

Re: [WSG] Yes or No? HTML5 FOR WEB DESIGNERS

2010-08-17 Thread Joseph Taylor
I've read DOM Scripting by Jeremy Keith and it was a fine book for what it was. Haven't read this one though. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web:

Re: [WSG] help

2010-04-02 Thread Joseph Taylor
Oh no! Marvin! Best of Luck!!! Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 4/3/10 2:32 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:

[WSG] Ie7 test?

2010-02-18 Thread Joseph Taylor
Can anyone guess why the columns overlap? http://freemealcenter.com Thanks! Sent via iPhone: Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer --- Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple Elegant Web Design http://sitesbyjoe.com Phone: (609) 335-3076

Re: [WSG] the mysteries of overflow: hidden

2010-02-10 Thread Joseph Taylor
If I understand correctly, you're suggesting that that overflow:hidden doesn't hide overflow? My own use of overflow:hidden has only been in conjunction with a stated height. In this case overflow:hidden hides anything that goes beyond the stated height of the element the rule has been

Re: [WSG] fonts

2010-02-02 Thread Joseph Taylor
Marvin, You don't need to have Arial on your PC to use it in your work. Others should have to have it, or any fallback you declare in your stylesheet. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/

Re: [WSG] fonts

2010-02-01 Thread Joseph Taylor
Yes Marvin, That combination is fine. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 2/1/10 4:01 AM, Marvin Hunkin

Re: [WSG] :: makeready ::

2010-01-26 Thread Joseph Taylor
David, I missed the items other mentioned, but it looks fine right now. The only item I wonder about is the thick border below the navigation that touches the double border directly below it. I'd use one or the other rather than both. That's me though. It looks like a CSS oops to me. No

Re: [WSG] my site

2010-01-21 Thread Joseph Taylor
Marvin, I see you fixed the paragraph before the body tag. I'm re-validating your page and will send back some more tips. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web:

Re: [WSG] my site

2010-01-21 Thread Joseph Taylor
Marvin, As I send over items I notice - for now forget about HTML 4.01 or HTML 5 and stay with XHTML for the moment. Things to fix then get back to me: Inside the div tag with the id of banner_new you have double break tags surrounding both the first level heading and the image. I see the

Re: [WSG] vallidation problems

2010-01-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
Code example or URL? Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 1/20/10 10:14 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: hi. so how

Re: [WSG] vallidation problems

2010-01-20 Thread Joseph Taylor
Marvin, You can email me with a link and I'll help you best I can. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Web Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On

Re: [WSG] google chrome frame

2010-01-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
Tee, IE6 is out there. Heck, IE5 is still out there (I made the decision to ignore IE5 already). How you deal with IE6 (or not) is up to you. Personally, I still have to check IE6 and at least make sure my layouts are working properly. I try to do little things like limiting my use of .png

Re: [WSG] skip links

2009-10-28 Thread Joseph Taylor
Mark, I just add something like this to things that are for mobile/text-only: style type=text/css media=screen.noscreen { text-index: -3000px; }/style a class=noscreen href=#placeSkip Link/a It's not perfect (keyboard users with a full blown browser will have to tab through them but won't

Re: [WSG] How to: mulitiple input fields with one label

2009-07-12 Thread Joseph Taylor
Tee, It looks like you should (warning - people will argue about this) markup up a table, with the column headings as the labels at the top. Be sure to specify the scope=col attribute. Then in each cell markup your inputs as normal, add your labels and hide with css. Not very elegant, but

Re: [WSG] working with line-height

2009-07-01 Thread Joseph Taylor
Ben, On the spacing, the spaces you're fighting with are a combination of line-height, margin and padding. Each browser will implement their own defaults, so resetting the defaults with a reset stylesheet has become a popular technique. For example, if you apply a line like this to your

Re: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-01 Thread Joseph Taylor
In the big picture, many things will use your website that won't use javascript. Like a search engine spider. Or a crappy cell phone. At the very least make sure your basic site functions don't rely on javascript to work. Same thing with images. The arguments/links below from Ted are valuble

Re: [WSG] working with line-height

2009-07-01 Thread Joseph Taylor
: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 7/1/09 7:49 PM, David Hucklesby wrote: Joseph Taylor wrote re: http://www.hellobenlau.net/wsg/index.html Ben, On the spacing, the spaces you're fighting with are a combination of line-height, margin and padding. Each browser

Re: [WSG] working with line-height

2009-07-01 Thread Joseph Taylor
/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: j...@sitesbyjoe.com On 7/1/09 10:31 PM, Mark Henderson wrote: Joseph Taylor wrote: David, What form elements / what browsers do you mean? I'm curious

Re: [WSG] Right div dropping below left floated div when browser resized

2009-06-30 Thread Joseph Taylor
IE6 will drop your content down to a place where it'll fit. You need to do something like this: my_container { min-width: XXpx; _width: XXpx; /* just for IE6 */ } IE6 needs specified width and then it'll behave like it was given a min-width. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Joseph Taylor
I took a look at your source code - there are a whole bunch of issues beginning with oddities in your HTML - things like: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd; HTML lang=en xml:lang=en

Re: [WSG] using skip links

2009-05-13 Thread Joseph Taylor
If the skip link is serving a valid purpose I see no problem using it. Keep in mind the purpose of the skip link - does the promotion contain items that would slow keyboard navigation? if not you probably do not need it. Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer

Re: [WSG] Was given a shocker this week ...

2009-04-06 Thread Joseph Taylor
Sadly, many sites get built this way. Sent from the iphone of: Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer --- Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple Elegant Web Design Phone: (609) 335-3076 On Apr 6, 2009, at 1:21 PM, Rick Faircloth r...@whitestonemedia.com wrote:

Re: [WSG] Exemples to use microformats?

2009-02-23 Thread Joseph Taylor
Here's one I made for news entries on a page that uses the hcard microformat: http://onewebguy.com/2008/02/23/marking-up-a-list-of-articles/ Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609)

Re: [WSG] Implication of empty divs

2009-02-09 Thread Joseph Taylor
Ben, That's a great link. It also shows that an extra empty element, while it may be the easy way out works across the board without side effects of any kind. Yes it is mixing content and presentation. Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer --- Sites by Joe,

Re: [WSG] Implication of empty divs

2009-02-09 Thread Joseph Taylor
While the nbsp; does represent nothing in a way, it is something and I would say that it's use would be slighty worse than a purely empty element. Joseph R. B. Taylor Designer/Developer --- Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple Elegant Web Design Phone: (609) 335-3076

Re: [WSG] seeking JavaScript Bible comments

2009-02-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
I wouldn't worry about document.write examples too much. You just need to keep in mind that the book is designed to teach the language from scratch, and quite possibly the reader hasn't scripted before. Starting from point zero, document.write is a good way to get started learning and

Re: [WSG] Implication of empty divs

2009-02-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
Agreed. An empty div is nothing. Same thing with an empty spans etc... Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email:

Re: [WSG] Browser / OS Test on website.

2009-01-13 Thread Joseph Taylor
Looks real good! The list item icons aren't showing up in IE6 - no biggie. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email:

Re: [WSG] First Attempt

2008-11-25 Thread Joseph Taylor
If we plan on working in the web design world, you'll find that the real world (at least for the moment) is far from standardized. Frames, iframes, flash, nested table madness - it's out there on both old sites _and_ new. Sometimes you have to go in and fix something on one of these

Re: [WSG] img cannot be contained within the body?

2008-11-06 Thread Joseph Taylor
If you're using XHTML, inline elements (like imgs) need to be contained within a block level element (like a div). On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:04 PM, James Jeffery [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A very silly question that I cannot believe I am asking. I have never had to use img within the body tag.

Re: [WSG] .NET sites which are XHTML 1.0 strict

2008-10-07 Thread Joseph Taylor
Correction on these links: http://www.mucu4u.org.nz/Home_61.aspx http://www.oneeast.co.nz/ http://www.colorfastsigns.co.nz/Home_34.aspx The first fails as HTML 4.01 Strict - no good The 2nd fails as HTML 4.01 Strict - no good The 3rd fails as HTML 4.01 Transitional - no good None are using

Re: [WSG] Accessible menu lists - using the pipe character as separator?

2008-09-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
A screen reader would read out each pipe character, resulting in a mild annoyance I would think. Is it accessible? Sure, the device can certainly handle the links and separator. In the end though, the separator is a visual item, not part of the information. The beginning and end of each

Re: [WSG] Copycat site

2008-09-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
Everyone (newbies to the list especially): Just a reminder about the purpose of this list and some of the things that happen on here you should be aware of: 1. This list's purpose is discussing items related to web standards. Sometimes the lines of what fits here are blurred and thats

Re: [WSG] Copycat site

2008-09-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
Matthew Pennell wrote: On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Joseph Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a reminder about the purpose of this list and some of the things that happen on here you should be aware of: You missed out Don't top-post and trim replies

Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
If you want to avoid captchas, my recommendation would be to add a question that would foil a robot. Just explain that this field is for that specifically. Something like: fieldset legendHuman Verification/legend pThis section is used to thwart evil spam robots. Fill in the correct

Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
it'll prevent answers like Blue, BLUE, bLuE, etc. from triggering the Robot! Get out! error. Respectfully, Mike Cherim - Original Message - From: Joseph Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

Re: [WSG] Code for Firefox, hack for IE

2008-09-01 Thread Joseph Taylor
My 2 cents: I've been coding CSS layouts since 2003. I've probably laid out several hundred sites at this point. Today, I always code on FF first (yes for the tools). Yes, Opera renders a little more accurately. Once you learn little CSS tricks to stabilize floated items, their

Re: [WSG] how to use images and text in a menue

2008-08-28 Thread Joseph Taylor
Or you could: style type=text/css /* - I'm assuming you've already reset the padding and margins on all elements involved -*/ ul#nav li { background: url(my-image.jpg) no-repeat; } ul#nav li a {

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
People have already said this, but an unordered list, a little css and some sprites allow for very graphically rich navigation that is usable in almost all circumstances. I have been putting image replaced navigation on all my sites for some time. You could even use a big photograph.

Re: [WSG] W3C Validation Question

2008-08-26 Thread Joseph Taylor
Well for starters you're missing your opening html tag... Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell

2008-08-07 Thread Joseph Taylor
If the markup has to stay as it is now, your problems are probably coming from images for one thing. IE7 adds the 3 pixel padding to the bottom of the images so getting equal heights will be tough. You should be able to get the cells to behave somewhat with this classic: td { min-height:

Re: [WSG] form from the 7th level of hell

2008-08-07 Thread Joseph Taylor
Kevin, If I may make a recommendation, adjust the background color of your cells to match the bottom color of your background gradients so when text gets enlarged it still looks smooth inside the cell rather than having the graphic cut off. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/

Re: [WSG] Marking up a Calendar

2008-08-05 Thread Joseph Taylor
Definitely a table for a calendar, like: table captionAugust 2008/caption thead tr th scope=colSun/th th scope=colMon/th th scope=colTue/th th scope=colWed/th th scope=colThu/th th scope=colFri/th th scope=colSat/th

Re: [WSG] dl question

2008-08-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
To clarify, when people use a definition list for something other than actual definitions and terms, they usually use the dt's and dd's to represent the relationship of the items within the dl. For example - markup for a list of properties for sale: dl dtPhoto of Property/dt dtAddress

Re: IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
Ladies and Gentlemen, The opposite is true as well. I don't do work for large entities - only very small local businesses so I can share their own situation. Theres no question in my mind that these entities make up a huge share of computer usage. This typical office I work has computers

Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-03 Thread Joseph Taylor
In the end IE6 isn't going to be 100% if you're using .png files. Even the javascripts out there cause odd bugs - things like link over .png backgrounds not working etc. My advice and what I do in actual practice - use conditional comments to address IE6 and lower and replace all instances

Re: [WSG] Validation

2008-07-03 Thread Joseph Taylor
Many parts of the object tag can make a validator upset - especially the embed portion. You're best bet is to add the flash using javascript via one of the popular scripts like swfobject, ufo etc... Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by

Re: [WSG] Help with div tags in Dreamweaver CS3

2008-06-12 Thread Joseph Taylor
Susan, Firstly, If you're making this page in wysiwyg mode, there's not much we can do to help. If not, For your flash backgrounds, add: param name=wmode value=transparent and a wmode=transparent to your flash code. A one column center aligned page is really easy: html head

Re: [WSG] Reset CSS

2008-06-10 Thread Joseph Taylor
The reset.css (in the form you mention) first came about from css developers who set the same defaults again and again as they made sites. They obviously realized they repeated themselves and eventually created a separate stylesheet to handle that. I did this myself (I chose the name

Re: [WSG] Stumped need suggestions - how to highlight two links at once

2008-06-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
You would want to use an external javascript file. Your javascript file would need to: 1. watch the links in question for a mouseover event 2. if the event fires change something visual about the link and whichever other link meets a set of criteria. To be more specific, you'd have to

Re: [WSG] Definition lists for testimonials

2008-05-05 Thread Joseph Taylor
Definition Lists are wonderful markup tools. They do create a nice relationship between element pairs and I find myself sometimes using them for lists of real estate properties for sale: Something like: dl dtproperty photo //dt dtaddress, city st zip/dt ddprice/dd ddbeds /

Re: [WSG] Full flash websites

2008-05-05 Thread Joseph Taylor
I've used flash sites that have been poorly done - confusing interfaces etc. Awful Experience. I've used flash sites that have been built well. Excellent experience. Accessible? Not really, but... If you're providing a fall-back HTML version you're covered. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer /

Re: R: [WSG] Alternative to align = center?

2008-05-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
to use and id vs a class called center is this type of situation. Trying to understand more how this becomes an issue of separating presentation and content. Thanks Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Joseph Taylor wrote: FYI - Adding

Re: R: [WSG] Alternative to align = center?

2008-05-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
. IceKat Joseph Taylor wrote: FYI - Adding such a named class, especially with the name center or center goes against separation of presentation and content. In a situation where your HTML looks like: div div class=centre my images / /div div class=centre my images / /div div class=centre my images

Re: R: [WSG] Alternative to align = center?

2008-05-03 Thread Joseph Taylor
FYI - Adding such a named class, especially with the name center or center goes against separation of presentation and content. In a situation where your HTML looks like: div div class=centre my images / /div div class=centre my images / /div div class=centre my images / /div /div You should

Re: [WSG] will this ever validate?(swfobject 2.0)

2008-05-01 Thread Joseph Taylor
All the javascript methods for embedding flash use a script within the page to replace a div with the flash code, which is another way validation fails. If you write an unobtrusive script that adds the script tag to the page once the dom loads, you can write a fallback for the flash for

Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-30 Thread Joseph Taylor
, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Joseph Taylor wrote: Great information and clarification everyone. If anyone hasn't taken an underlying message away from the conversation so

Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-30 Thread Joseph Taylor
/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 Fax: (866) 301-8045 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andrew Maben wrote: On Apr 30, 2008, at 9:59 AM, Joseph Taylor wrote: stick with HTML 4.01 Strict while the work is completed on (X)HTML5 IMHO (and given the depth and breadth of the replies to my

Re: [WSG] JS Image Slider

2008-04-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
The non-js version could also hold all the images and the css overflow property could be used to force a little scroll bar to scroll through them, almost re-creating the effect your going for. JS would step in to improve... What your saying is fine too. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer /

Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
The transitional doctype was created to simply allow an easier transition between doctypes as people updated their sites to newer, more advanced doctypes. In the past it meant changing HTML3.2 pages to HTML 4.1. More recently it meant moving towards and XHTML 1x strict doctypes from

Re: [WSG] JS Image Slider

2008-04-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
An example? Text-only browsers. No visual styles! However, a list of images is exactly what you're serving to the visitor, right? Ugly, yes. Semantically correct? Quite. Furthermore, I'm willing to bet that plenty of text-only users frequently encounter lists of images and wouldn't be

Re: [WSG] JS Image Slider

2008-04-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
I'll chime in to mention that people who intentionally turn off CSS, or use their own specific styles to override defaults represent a TINY percentage of users. TINY. For me personally, testing without CSS is a mute point since I spend a fair amount of time creating a nice naked document to

Re: [WSG] transitional vs. strict

2008-04-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
Great information and clarification everyone. If anyone hasn't taken an underlying message away from the conversation so far, it is to use HTML 4.01 Strict for you web documents when possible... Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe,

Re: [WSG] Question on YUI

2008-04-28 Thread Joseph Taylor
YUI / Blueprint / jQuery / MooTools / Scriptaculous / Code Igniter / Cake PHP etc. The thing you need to remember with any framework - use only what you need. Does using a framework mean you need to construct a menu with javascript? Heck no. Do you need to use any of the supplied tools?

Re: [WSG] Strange things indeed

2008-04-26 Thread Joseph Taylor
I'll assume the margin/padding/border reset is part of a complete css reset/restyle attempt. You don't need to set all borders to 0 - I can't think of any bordered elements other than the button offhand and you'd add in the table border settings as part of your css reset separately. That

Re: [WSG] Flash on top of Flash

2008-03-03 Thread Joseph Taylor
Using flash for your navigation is fine. Just set it up so its an enhancement to a regular ol' ul/li nav rather than the only alternative. Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/ Phone: (609)

Re: [WSG] multiple css style sheets

2008-02-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
I see no reason not to use multiple stylesheets other than a smaller download time. Each stylesheet should be separated only if it serves a purpose of course. For example, most of my sites currently use this formula: !-- CSS -- link rel=stylesheet type=text/css media=all href=/css/global.css

[WSG] Linux Page Test Please

2008-02-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
Good Linux users: Can I ask you to take this page for a spin and reply off-list if you encounter a problem? http://allturf.sitesbyjoe.com/ Thanks! -- Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/

Re: [WSG] PHP includes

2008-02-05 Thread Joseph Taylor
You don't need to add any styles to the include file. Keep in mind the php does its stuff long before any css rules get applied which happens only after the dom is loaded into the user's browser. I cannot speak for SSI as I've never used it once. Always did asp/php includes. Joseph R. B.

[WSG] Page Rendering Test Please

2008-01-22 Thread Joseph Taylor
Can my IE7/Opera/Linux friends please take this page for a test ride? http://www.ellicottmack.com/home/homepage Just send me a personal note if you notice a rendering issue. Thanks a bunch! -- Joseph R. B. Taylor /Designer / Developer/ -- Sites by Joe, LLC

Re: [WSG] Developing for Mac Browsers

2008-01-12 Thread Joseph Taylor
I would try to get an old cheap G3 or something on ebay, you can get them very cheaply and often with OSX installed. The rendering differences between Firefox etc will be similar, but the respective font sizes will be a little different (a little smaller on the mac). Joseph R. B. Taylor

Re: [WSG] Javascript based ASP Form Mail script?

2007-11-29 Thread Joseph Taylor
You're better off asking your web host about that one. ASP usually needs a 3rd party component to send email reliably. I've seen CDONTS turned off many times. My old ASP scripts use the SmartMail component which has been discontinued by the creator. If you mean ASP.NET thats another story.

Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI

2007-10-12 Thread Joseph Taylor
I haven't tried Yahoo's library, but jQuery is just great. I only use it lightly (getting DOM elements, applying classes etc), but its been very nice to work with so far. No code issues. Joseph R. B. Taylor - Sites by Joe, LLC Clean, Simple and Elegant Web

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
McLaughlin, Gail G wrote: We always ask the client if they require that the site comply with accessibility. Why not say Would you like a shitty website, or a good quality website? Well-made shouldn't be an extra feature... In fact, since its clearly cheaper and easier to make a crappy

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
I'm glad to hear that so many of us are experts on law and other topics that have nothing to do with web standards whatsoever. What does this suit have to do with web standards? Well, perhaps down the road somewhere more strict governing will be put in place. Do we want the government

Re: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility

2007-10-08 Thread Joseph Taylor
Gary Barber wrote: Oh I agree with what is being said. But consider, for a moment. You ask do you want a good quality web site. The clients replies, quality means expensive. As long as it looks good I don't care. So the client says Why should I use you with your standards and

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-03 Thread Joseph Taylor
To add to the colorful discussion... There is certainly merit behind being able to design a site the way you want. I've written private web applications where javascript was required - cookies too. In the public sphere, its a whole different story. Yes, you can choose to visit a website,

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