Re: [WSG] dl question

for each dt?? The point you probably haven't considered is that it's a definition *list* - a list of things and their definitions. So, one dl can have as many dts (and their attendant dds) as you like. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [ADMIN] THREAD CLOSED [WSG] XSLT: looping through ancestors looking for a specific node

On 28/07/08 2:07 PM, Matt Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, Grant, this is off topic for this list. Is it? I thought XSLT was a web standard - it certainly has a home on the W3C site ( http://www.w3.org/TR/xslt). Are we just a CSS group now? -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's

Re: [WSG] Who's A Front End Developer?

there!) Kevin -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal

Re: [WSG] JavaScript gurus - exercise in vanity

No one¹s mentioned John Resig, developer of JQuery? -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared

Re: [WSG] Acronym tag usage

blurred in recent years, their technical definitions have not. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ # This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses

Re: [WSG] Acronym tag usage

On 11/5/07 10:23 AM, Dan Dorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/10/07, Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russ is indeed absolutely correct. These terms are confused all the time, and while colloquial use might have become blurred in recent years, their technical definitions have not. I'm

Re: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?

of text above the gallery itself explaining what you need to do. The images themselves or their captions are then left alone to function as intended. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [WSG] Global and page-specific style sheets

(no kidding?), and then a page- or section-specific style sheet to deal with the, well, specifics (man, I think I see a pattern here...). I find that it makes managing larger sites much easier. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [WSG] Site Check/Launch: Edentiti.com

On 3/3/06 10:24 AM, Rob Mientjes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 02/03/06, Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it should be *who* will grin gleefully for a start. My apologies for that typo, but it shouldn't detract from the matter at hand. -Rob. Partly my fault there Rob - I didn't

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumb as Section Heading H1

On 23/2/06 10:19 PM, Ian Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Futter wrote: Anyway, for the benefit of others interested in this thread/topic, the upshot from the above link seems to be that the pipe character (|) is the best compromise currently available as a screen reader-friendly

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumb as Section Heading H1

On 22/2/06 10:38 AM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Futter wrote: My only concern about using a string of text is defining a semantically-appropriate item delimiter that works well for assistive technologies. This seems apropos: http://www.standards-schmandards.com/?2004

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumb as Section Heading H1

On 21/2/06 7:00 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Futter wrote: Yes, I've argued strongly in the past that a list is not completely semantically-appropriate for breadcrumbs markup. Unlike breadcrumbs, a flat list does not represent a hierarchy, unless you nest them

Re: [WSG] Breadcrumb as Section Heading H1

you're currently on. If you want to traverse back and forth along your own personal path, you can use the ... wait for it ... Back and Forwards buttons. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [WSG] TARGET in 4.01 Strict

benefit of the pop-up not afforded by frames is that the music player is still available even when the user chooses to leave the site. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list

Re: [WSG] Justify this

- or right-aligned text. Justified text is exactly as I described in my last post: text that spans a full block element (print or screen) and is aligned to both left and right margins. I am of course talking about the technical publishing definition of the term, not the CSS version. -- Kevin Futter

Re: [WSG] Browser Resolutions

distortions I get using 1280x1024. (Skulks away realising none of this is on-topic ...) -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Justify this

that it looks better, but that's just subjective on my part. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] firefox 1.5 is official

wasn't there, only the older 0.6.2 version (which definitely doesn't work with FF1.5). -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] firefox 1.5 is official

under 1.5, which actually prevents me from upgrading on my work machine, as I use this all the time as a handy shortcut for picking up validation errors (and puts this thread vaguely on-topic too). The PC version works, so Ill be upgrading my PC for sure. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's

Re: [WSG] Accessibility: Default placeholders

of the rest. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting

Re: [WSG] specifying width of pre

? You just need to verify which character your db is using for line breaks (MySQL?). Sorry to the list for straying off-topic, and apologies to Andreas (like the new site mate!) if I'm barking up the wrong tree. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

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Re: [WSG] Tables and divs and soon

documents (and not only through poorly formed documents, but also through the use of invalid attributes associated with td and tr elements). In short, using tables is a very good way of raising the risk of invalid documents. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http

Re: [WSG] Safari 1.3 vs Safari 2 differences

etc). Having said all that, I'm not sure what's causing your error. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Strange font-family behavior on Mac

smoothing is handled by the OS in OS X, and apps are hands-off in this regard. K -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

On 24/5/05 4:43 PM, Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/23/05 11:33 PM Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I can't speak for all browsers, but I do find it annoying that Firefox on Windows has the print preview option, but Firefox on the Mac does not (latest versions

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

for all browsers, but I do find it annoying that Firefox on Windows has the print preview option, but Firefox on the Mac does not (latest versions). Makes it hard to recommend for verifying print output (assuming it would be at all accurate in the first place). Kevin -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St

Re: [WSG] Firefox bug?

(naturally, at v0.8.4), but access to the Web Developer toolbar for Firefox certainly makes up for any (real or imagined) shortcomings for anyone hoping to use Web Standards. (For the record, Firefox is my primary browser on both platforms.) Sorry if this is off-topic. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster

Re: [WSG] double space after period

://www.firelightning.com -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

Re: [WSG] Help - newbie

(besides 1, but if I was smart enough I could just right and extention for that), and a whole lot more. Alan Trick -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] Standards Macromedia Contribute

and uniformity of the two products, and I got the impression that meant migrating Contribute's engine to Dreamweaver. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http

Re: [WSG] using IE7 script

IE6 behave in a more standards-compliant manner. See the link that Andreas supplied for more details. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org

Re: [WSG] using IE7 script

this is why when the list admins scream CLOSED on a thread, messages for that thread can still arrive thereafter - we're not being rebellious, just slow to catch up! -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [WSG] Cross browser background-position

effect is the one in firefox. IIRC, background-position declarations are supposed to apply to any element that can take an image as a background, but IE/Win supports it only on the body element of a document. -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [WSG] Validating unicode files

this article quite useful, though it may not necessarily directly address your problem: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

renders further discussion/debate kinda pointless. I respect your views on this issue Mordechai and you argue them well, and I apologise if I've antagonised you in any way, but at the end of the day it's better to 'agree to disagree' and move on to more fruitful discussions. -- Kevin Futter

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

see any inherent semantic superiority in the list approach in this case. Perhaps the W3C needs to introduce a breadcrumbs element? Cheers, Kevin Futter -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

, simply because each component has a relationship to its neighbours. I don't see any inherent semantic superiority in the list approach in this case. Perhaps the W3C needs to introduce a breadcrumbs element? Cheers, Kevin Futter -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

On 6/12/04 11:09 AM, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Futter wrote: I don't buy the argument that breadcrumbs *have to be* structured as lists. Why? Because they're not a collection of loosely-related list items, like a shopping list or such; rather, a unit of breadcrumbs

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

On 6/12/04 2:23 PM, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Futter wrote: Yes, breadcrumb elements are strongly related in exactly the same way that sentence elements (i.e. words) are; and sentences can be rendered with precise meaning even if some words are omitted (prepositions

Re: [WSG] Semantic Breadcrumbs

On 6/12/04 4:04 PM, Mordechai Peller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Futter wrote: Less important doesn't mean not important. Exactly, which is why I didn't say not important ... And therein lies the rub: lists are one-dimensional, as you yourself point out elsewhere; breadcrumbs attempt

Re: [WSG] Code or Markup

the history. Was CSS developed first for XSLT/XML and then applied to HTML? Or vice versa? Best regards, Marilyn Langfeld http://www.langfeldesigns.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1.301.598.3300 business phone +1.301.598.0532 fax +1.202.390.8847 mobile -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College

Re: [WSG] Code or Markup

, markup *can* be considered code, in that markup tags are the codes that the relevant parser requires to render the expected output. In fact, my other commonly used option is just to say 'HTML' - just about everybody understands roughly what that is, conceptually at least. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Futter

Re: Focus highlighting, was Re: [WSG] Some links for light reading (30/11/04)

I interpreted 'IR' to stand for 'image replacement', such as FIR and sFIR et al. Cheers, Kevin Futter On 1/12/04 7:50 AM, Terrence Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what IR refers to. Here's the the CSS rule explained: snip -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http

Re: [WSG] Adobe Forum comment on CSS in visual editors

discuss it off list if necessary. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

Re: [WSG] Margin Madness

Actually, it's been my experience that using transparent makes no difference to the layout problems. For me, I've always had to define a border colour - obviously the same as the background colour - in order for this 'hack' to work. Cheers, Kevin Futter On 1/11/04 10:55 AM, Andrew Krespanis

Re: [WSG] Firebird / Mozilla

or Gecko-based browsers exhibit this behaviour? -- Kevin Futter Webmaster, St. Bernard's College http://www.sbc.melb.catholic.edu.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

Re: [WSG] skip to content (was: Site Review Request)

While I agree with the idea of clarifying the destination, I disagree with the logic of your choice here. The pronunciation issues with A are significant enough to warrant B as the first choice. Cheers, Kevin On 27/10/04 6:48 PM, Mike Foskett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Clarify the destination.

Re: [WSG] Stadards Site Section

Hi Chris, The semi-accessible way of creating JavaScript pop-ups would go something like this: Create a js function called popWindow() or somesuch, with all the relevant code to create your pop-up window. Your HTML code would then look something like this: a href=myWindow.html

Re: [WSG] Stadards Site Section

On 25/10/04 12:13 PM, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin Futter wrote: a href=myWindow.html onclick=popWindow('myWindow.html'); return false;Click here/a Small modification: use popWindow(this.href) to refer back to the A element's HREF attribute. This way, if you change

Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?

Here's a link to an article that convinced me the Websafe colour palette sits alongside Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster ... http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/00/37/index2a.html?tw=design Cheers, Kevin Futter On 21/10/04 4:49 PM, Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.mail-archive.com

Re: [WSG] Broken Menus and Bullets

I interpreted this as a z-index issue too ... (but I didn't check the code). Kevin On 21/10/04 1:48 PM, Stephen Cheshire [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the z-index of the block of text starting with Maecenas laoreet laoreet... is it greater than the submenus? Because I'm thinking the

Re: [WSG] w3c badges

Hi Rick, You're not tied to using the W3C images, and there are a few good replacements around. I'm using a pretty common set of examples on the front page of my site (http://www.klp.com.au/). They're not mine, and I've forgotten exactly where I borrowed them from (so apologies to the original

Re: [WSG] w3c badges

I think for most clients you just don't go there - after all, it's their site, not yours. They don't know or care about web standards, and neither do their clients - it just doesn't mean anything to them, so is hardly useful for evangelical purposes. Imagine if all TV commercials had a SMPTE

Re: [WSG] CSS caching problem in IE and Firefox

, it's the option key for IE/Mac - maybe someone else here can clarify). In the past, I've had to resort to deleting temporary Internet files, closing the browser, restarting the machine and starting from scratch (on Windows). Even then my mileage varied. Good luck! Kevin Futter On 13/10/04 8:21 AM

Re: [WSG] Mac Tools Kit for Web Standards Developer

syntax. It's free, too. Cheers, Kevin Futter On 12/10/04 1:05 AM, Genau Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody knows some software like that for Windows? Genau Lopes Júnior WebDesigner - Original Message - From: Clayton Lengel-Zigich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [WSG] Mac Tools Kit for Web Standards Developer

I use Dreamweaver MX2004 for site development and SubethaEdit for nuts and bolts text editing. I know some people are leery of DW because they see it as purely a WYSIWYG solution, but its code editing tools are robust and its site management tools can't be matched by any text-editor. And it makes

Re: [WSG] Mac Tools Kit for Web Standards Developer

On 11/10/04 10:11 AM, Paul Connolley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Oct 2004, at 00:54, Kevin Futter wrote: SubethaEdit is impressive, especially given that it's free, and it comes with a bunch of preset 'pretty print' modules for code colouring in a number of syntaxes. By the way

Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

Title: Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links For the line wrapping issue, you could try: whitespace: nowrap; On whatever element is giving you trouble. Cheers, Kevin Futter On 5/10/04 11:28 AM, Richard Czeiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I'm putting together

Re: [WSG] IE problem with CSS tabs

Actually, I apply classes and styles to hrefs all the time - it's the only way to emulate button functionality on a text link. Cheers, Kevin On 1/10/04 9:23 AM, David McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My very sincerest apologies, John. I made one small change to the HTML before I started

Re: [WSG] PNGs and IE windows

... Cheers, Kevin Futter On 30/9/04 8:48 AM, Wayne Godfrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please explain what I can and can't do with a PNG image in IE Windows? I have a logo with a soft drop shadow that works everywhere except IE Win. In IE, there is a gray box that where the transparency

Re: [WSG] fixed background...

The 'fixed' property for element background images works in IE only for the body selector, and fails in all other cases. Cheers, Kevin On 28/9/04 7:27 PM, john [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ladies and Gentlemen: I'm attempting my first fixed background, and I have one question and need one

Re: [WSG] Mac IE5 double character weirdness

Hi James, I get it too on IE 5.2, but only for the password field, not the username field. The only difference I can see between the 2 fields is the 'value=' attribute, so maybe try adding that to the password field and see if it makes any difference. Kevin On 28/9/04 1:17 PM, James Ellis

Re: [WSG] Embedding Flash

to carry across a swollen river ... Cheers, Kevin Futter On 24/9/04 8:53 AM, David McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reiterating Ben's comments and Zeldman's summary of the problems with the Satay method in Designing With Web Standards, that's exactly the problem with the Satay--sometimes

Re: [WSG] css validation error

My understanding was that there shouldn't be a comma in the shorthand font selector after Trebuchet MS (but I could be wrong ...). Cheers, Kevin Futter On 20/9/04 4:26 PM, John Oxton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you could try not using the font shorthand to get it to validate, try

Re: [WSG] css validation error

It appears from another post that I am wrong! Oh well ... Kevin Futter On 21/9/04 8:56 AM, Kevin Futter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My understanding was that there shouldn't be a comma in the shorthand font selector after Trebuchet MS (but I could be wrong ...). Cheers, Kevin Futter On 20

Re: [WSG] question about iframe accessibility

Ted - the content between the iframe tags doesn't need to be hidden or commented out; in browsers that support iframes, it's automatically replaced by the content specified in the source attribute, otherwise it's shown. Think of it a little bit like the noframes or noscript tags in old school

Re: [WSG] Tidy extension for Firefox

Hi James, I can't find this anywhere on the Extensions site - can you point to it specifically? Is it OS or version specific? Cheers, Kevin On 21/9/04 11:10 AM, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all Just a heads up for all of you trying to move to standards compliant, accessible