RE: [WSG] ie7 and firefox
Try resetting your page with an example such as: * { margin: 0px; padding: 0px; line-height: 1.25px; } etc. Also is your browser in standards or quirks mode? You gave a brief description and no XHTML, this may help us more. Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCÝ Sent: 25 March 2008 13:06 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] ie7 and firefox i have a search form and #formdiv{ text-align:right; padding:3px; padding-right:4px; } #formdivtext{ border:1px #BCBCBC soild; margin-right:2px; } my css file is this. But in ie7 form height is very big but in firefox height is suitable for my claim! what can i do to organize it? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists
Using del and ins to track changes in a document, is making excellent use of semantic markup. However markup should only be used to describe content, not other markup - classes and IDs are used to describe other markup. CSS: del, .del { display: none; /* un-comment to use */ /* text-decoration: line-through; */ } Then on your XHTML ul liItem 1/li li class='del'Item 2/li liItem 3/li /ul Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: 25 March 2008 13:47 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists Hi, RE: When I hid the del using display: hidden; the list would render something like this I can't say I've ever felt the need to use these tags, but isn't hiding the content supposed to be the job of the browser/user agent - rather than you using CSS. On Sun, March 23, 2008 12:43 pm, Thomas Thomassen wrote: I was working on some examples for the use of del and ins. http://www.thomthom.net/blog/2008/03/document-history-viewer-making-use-of-d el-and-ins/ As I was working on this I wanted to mark up a list where items had been added and removed. That's when I realised that you can't wrap up li dt or dd in del or ins elements because ul, ol and dl only allows list items as their direct child. The del and ins then have to be wrapped inside the list item. ul liItem 1/li lidelItem 2/del/li liItem 3/li /ul When I hid the del using display: hidden; the list would render something like this: * Item 1 * * Item 3 Because I could wrap up the entire list item, the bullet point would still remain. To me it appears illogical to not wrap the del or ins around the list items when you add and remove items to the list. I'm guessing it's a case where every scenario wasn't accounted for when the specifications was written. (Yes, I know that I could add an extra class to the list item that I wanted to hide, but it's not the point. It shouldn't be necessary.) However, when this scenario presents itself I see it as fine to break the specification and mark it up like this: ul liItem 1/li delliItem 2/li/del liItem 3/li /ul This seem to render exactly as I expect it to do in every browser I've tested. * Item 1 * Item 3 I posted a comment about it in the W3C public HTML discussion group, hoping it'd be picked up and amend HTML5's specification to allow this. However, there's yet been any response. Is there any other place I could air this issue in hope of it getting heards by the authors of the next HTML specs? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists
Regardless, Tags are there to markup content, whereas classes are used to group together tags or markup. Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Thomassen Sent: 25 March 2008 16:43 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists I don't find classes to have the semantic value as the tags have. There is no where defined what the semanic value of classes are. Even though the classes would share the same name as a tag I don't see it as having the same semantic value. - Original Message - From: Kyle Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:45 PM Subject: RE: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists Using del and ins to track changes in a document, is making excellent use of semantic markup. However markup should only be used to describe content, not other markup - classes and IDs are used to describe other markup. CSS: del, .del { display: none; /* un-comment to use */ /* text-decoration: line-through; */ } Then on your XHTML ul liItem 1/li li class='del'Item 2/li liItem 3/li /ul Kyle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: 25 March 2008 13:47 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] INS and DEL in lists Hi, RE: When I hid the del using display: hidden; the list would render something like this I can't say I've ever felt the need to use these tags, but isn't hiding the content supposed to be the job of the browser/user agent - rather than you using CSS. On Sun, March 23, 2008 12:43 pm, Thomas Thomassen wrote: I was working on some examples for the use of del and ins. http://www.thomthom.net/blog/2008/03/document-history-viewer-making-use-of-d el-and-ins/ As I was working on this I wanted to mark up a list where items had been added and removed. That's when I realised that you can't wrap up li dt or dd in del or ins elements because ul, ol and dl only allows list items as their direct child. The del and ins then have to be wrapped inside the list item. ul liItem 1/li lidelItem 2/del/li liItem 3/li /ul When I hid the del using display: hidden; the list would render something like this: * Item 1 * * Item 3 Because I could wrap up the entire list item, the bullet point would still remain. To me it appears illogical to not wrap the del or ins around the list items when you add and remove items to the list. I'm guessing it's a case where every scenario wasn't accounted for when the specifications was written. (Yes, I know that I could add an extra class to the list item that I wanted to hide, but it's not the point. It shouldn't be necessary.) However, when this scenario presents itself I see it as fine to break the specification and mark it up like this: ul liItem 1/li delliItem 2/li/del liItem 3/li /ul This seem to render exactly as I expect it to do in every browser I've tested. * Item 1 * Item 3 I posted a comment about it in the W3C public HTML discussion group, hoping it'd be picked up and amend HTML5's specification to allow this. However, there's yet been any response. Is there any other place I could air this issue in hope of it getting heards by the authors of the next HTML specs? *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***