RE: [WSG] More on spam traps

2012-08-22 Thread Mike Kear
I think its important to give the spammer no indication that you are onto
them.   If you give them any kind of feedback, they can use that to work a
way through your maze.The filters i use (which are similar to yours on
the client side, but I also use some tests on the server side, but the
submitter sees the same result either way.   Even if the submission is just
discarded to the bitbucket in the sky. They have no way to know their
submission has been discarded.

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

AFP Webworks

Windsor, NSW, Australia 

http://afpwebworks.com

 

 

 

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of coder
Sent: Wednesday, 22 August 2012 9:38 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] More on spam traps

 

Hi All,

 

I have recently attempted to 'trap' spammers who use autofilling tactics on
the site at www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk. This is written in html5 and uses
a mixture of simple tests to validate the form.  However, yesterday I recvd
a mail thus:

 

  _  

 

.  name 

*   igmgrtasel 

.  email 

*

.  hidden 

*   -9 

.  comments 

*   CaWePF a href=http://ipdszgwutyvp.com/;ipdszgwutyvp/a,
[url=http://fkpbtvpaxitv.com/]fkpbtvpaxitv[/url],
[link=http://rtcdalwdjrkb.com/]rtcdalwdjrkb[/link], http://xsejahukjzdr.com/


.  send 

*   send message .

  _  

 

The script I used to validate the form is this:

 

 

script type=text/javascript
function validateForm()
  {
  var x=document.forms[contact][email].value;
  var atpos=x.indexOf(@);
  var dotpos=x.lastIndexOf(.);
  if (atpos1 || dotposatpos+2 || dotpos+2=x.length)
 {
 alert(This is Not a valid e-mail address);
 return false;
 }
//
  var y=document.forms[contact][hidden].value;
   if (y==null || y==)
   {
   return true;}
  else
   {
alert(I think you are a machine)
return false;
   }

 

}
!--// --
  function check(node) 
   {
var re = new RegExp('[\[\\]]', 'g');
document.getElementById('send').disabled = re.test(node.value);
   }
/script

 

and it works locally and online. However the mail I quote from above is
completely unaffected.  Does this mean I give up trying, or what?  

 

Any thing?

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

 

 

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RE: [WSG] CSS3 Development tools?

2011-10-12 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks Carlo.   Perhaps i should also add that I build dynamic ColdFusion
sites, and use Dreamweaver CS5.5 for my development tool.   Few CF
developers use Dreamweaver - they tend to use Eclipse or its derivatives. 

 

I have found that Dreamweaver doesn't do much for CSS, unless you use the
so-called WYSIWYG design mode - and that's a hopelessly inefficient mode for
efficient dynamic pages.   Specially when you're using modular software
design, with things like ColdSpring handling the component management etc.
And since all my display pages have a header file that holds the CSS calls,
the body pages never have the CSS classes available. 

 

That's why I have been using TopStyle for developing style sheets - it is
stand-alone and doesn't require the dynamic pages to exist before it can
display a sample of the effect you're coding.   I just wish TopStyle was
available to handle CSS3.  I assume it will be one day, but I need a tool to
help me NOW.

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks

http://afpwebworks.com 

ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

 

 

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of carlo juancho funtanilla
Sent: Wednesday, 12 October 2011 4:32 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] CSS3 Development tools?

 

Try Dreamweaver CS5

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com wrote:

I've been using TopStyle4 for developing my CSS files, but it still isn't
supporting CSS3.

 

What tools are you others using to develop CSS3 files?   



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[WSG] CSS3 Development tools?

2011-10-11 Thread Mike Kear
I've been using TopStyle4 for developing my CSS files, but it still isn't
supporting CSS3.

 

What tools are you others using to develop CSS3 files?   

 

Yes I realise that you really don't need anything more than notepad to write
a CSS file, but a proper tool gives you syntax checking, code hinting,  a
colour picker,  bracket balancing,   that kind of thing.  I'm developing
enough with CSS3 rules now, that I'm looking for a tool to assist me and
speed up my development. 

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks

 http://afpwebworks.com http://afpwebworks.com 

ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

 



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RE: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-23 Thread Mike Kear
The conclusion I am coming to, with 5 days since I asked this and no-one
actually saying they do ANYTHING to cater for people with disabilities,  is
that even after all this time, no one really spends much time thinking about
users with special needs, other than to code to standards and hope that does
the trick.

No one either agreed or disagreed with the proposition that sticking to
standards IS in fact enough.

I asked this question, wondering if someone would say 'yes we have a
usability lab' or 'we have a consultant who runs our sites through his
screen reader for us' or 'we have meetings before launch specifically to
discuss' or something.   But no one has said they do anything at all for
users with disability.

The only responses I've had to this question are people referring me to
documents on line that I found long ago with google.   I was interested that
none of the people who gave me those URLS (except Josh Street) said they
actually used the advice in the documents themselves.   Josh wasn't specific
about how he caters to people with special needs, but seems to speak with
some knowledge so I'm assuming he caters to Dyslexics in his designs.

I guess it's going to take another law suit like that one against the
Olympics2000 site to get anyone to take users with special needs seriously
and actually lift a finger to cater to their needs.

The conclusion I'm being forced towards is that developers are basically
saying that users with special needs will have to swim for themselves and
it's up to them to find some software of their own to get around all the
obstacles the A/Bs put in their way.   I'm glad at least property developers
have been forced to change that attitude.


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com 
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Kear
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2011 11:12 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

How to the rest of you a/b people (i.e. able bodied) cater to users with
various forms of disability?

Up until recently, I've tended to rely on keeping my code to standards,
eliminating tables except for their proper purpose of tabulating data, and
hoping that will give the accessibility level required.  Do you go to the
step of accessing your sites with JAWS or something similar to see how the
site works for users with screen readers?

I remember in the 1990s when I was working at Australian Consumers
Association  (choice.com.au) we had someone come and bring his PC with JAWS.
The web team all sat in the boardroom getting ever more glum looks on our
faces as we saw to our horror how terrible our new design was for this poor
guy.  We thought we'd got a terrific new design, and were about to launch
it, when he did this demo for us.   We had to go back and recode everything.
This was before anyone was talking about standards though - it was back when
the normally accepted method of laying out pages was to use tables, and
buttons were nearly always images.  I remember being astounded at how fast
he was moving around the page, even though we'd unwittingly designed an
obstacle course of humungous proportions for him.

Our anguish at the time resulted in a far better web site, and convinced me
to pay attention to standards and accessibility ever since.

But now I'm wondering if simply sticking to standards is enough?

What do you all think?  Do you include JAWS in your site testing?


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com 
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month






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[WSG] How do you cater to users with disabilities?

2011-08-18 Thread Mike Kear
How to the rest of you a/b people (i.e. able bodied) cater to users with
various forms of disability?

Up until recently, I've tended to rely on keeping my code to standards,
eliminating tables except for their proper purpose of tabulating data, and
hoping that will give the accessibility level required.  Do you go to the
step of accessing your sites with JAWS or something similar to see how the
site works for users with screen readers?

I remember in the 1990s when I was working at Australian Consumers
Association  (choice.com.au) we had someone come and bring his PC with JAWS.
The web team all sat in the boardroom getting ever more glum looks on our
faces as we saw to our horror how terrible our new design was for this poor
guy.  We thought we'd got a terrific new design, and were about to launch
it, when he did this demo for us.   We had to go back and recode everything.
This was before anyone was talking about standards though - it was back when
the normally accepted method of laying out pages was to use tables, and
buttons were nearly always images.  I remember being astounded at how fast
he was moving around the page, even though we'd unwittingly designed an
obstacle course of humungous proportions for him.

Our anguish at the time resulted in a far better web site, and convinced me
to pay attention to standards and accessibility ever since.

But now I'm wondering if simply sticking to standards is enough?

What do you all think?  Do you include JAWS in your site testing?


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com 
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month





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[WSG] Detecting Mobile user agent - what methods work best?

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Kear
I have to convert a client site to enable phone users to use the site and I
was wondering what is the best method to detect the mobile user agent and
switch the css sheet?

 

As far as I have seen, there are  a few ways to do this - which is best?
(or maybe the way to put it is  'least bad')

[A]  a link at the top of the normal page, linking to a mobile version of
the page.   (yuk)

[B] javascript detection (but there are thousands of mobile devices to
detect.   YUK )

[C] Use CSS @media handheld  (but many mobile phones don't support the
handheld media type )

[D] server side detection using CGI.User_Agent   (but there are so many user
agents to detect)

[E] screen resolution detection  (but is that reliable?) 

 

Are there any other ways to do this?

 

How do the rest of you handle serving pages to both computer screens and
mobile device screens??

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks

http://afpwebworks.com 

ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month

 



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RE: [WSG] Detecting Mobile user agent - what methods work best?

2011-01-06 Thread Mike Kear
David, this is a variation on the logic that freed us all from the worst of
the IE quirks way back then.   IF you remember back then, most of us would
build our sites for IE5,  the drive ourselves crazy trying to put in hacks
for all the other browsers. (well **I** did anyway!)   That was until
someone came up with the simple strategy that was one of those
forehead-slapping moments  

Build for all the standards based browsers,  then add hacks for the quirks
of IE.   

DOH!! 


This is a bit like that.Instead of trying to build a site with
hacks/quirks/switches for mobile,build a site for mobile, with fall-back
for any  phones you don't detect to a standards based browser, and let them
scroll back and forth if necessary. 

SIMPLE. 

Worth following up, and I'll do some experiments with this in mind.   

Good thinking David. 




Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com 
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month




-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of David Hucklesby
Sent: Friday, 7 January 2011 5:00 PM


Rather than doing a switch for mobile agents, I read recently a
proposal to do basic styling for mobile first. Then filter advanced
styles for browsers, from smart phones to desktops that understand
@media queries, simply by declaring some @media filters at the bottom of
the style sheet.

I don't remember where I read it, but it seems to me to have other
advantages--old browsers like IE6 would only get the simple styles, too,
making it much easier to give IE6 visitors a pleasant experience without
the usual extensive fix-ups some layouts seem to need.

While I don't have a link to the original, very short article, the idea
has been taken up by others:

http://www.slideshare.net/bryanrieger/rethinking-the-mobile-web-by-yiibu

(If that breaks, try http://goo.gl/VqJE )

The downside is that neither IE7 nor IE8 understand @media queries. The
idea I am playing with uses Paul Irish's Conditional stylesheets vs CSS
hacks idea to filter rules for IE 6-8.

http://paulirish.com/2008/conditional-stylesheets-vs-css-hacks-answer-neith
er/

(Broken? try http://goo.gl/CRQY )

I'll certainly be interested in any other possibilities. I have not got
very far with this myself...

Cordially,
David




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[WSG] Need a fresh eye - can anyone see what's wrong please?

2010-11-30 Thread Mike Kear
I have a draft layout for a client that is fine in all respects except that
in IE8,  the background image in the footer is missing. 

Here's the page concerned:
http://afpwebworks.com/strikingdistance/index.cfm

And the footer div rule is as follows for IE (I have a IE-only style sheet)
: 

#footer {
color: #d9d9d9;
background-image: #33 url(images/Footer_background_s1.jpg);
background-repeat: repeat-x;
background-position: top;
min-height: 96px;
}

Both the HTML and the CSS validate ok. 


So does any one see what I have wrong for IE?

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks
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RE: [WSG] Need a fresh eye - can anyone see what's wrong please?

2010-11-30 Thread Mike Kear
YEP!  That did the trick.   I thought i'd checked all those things, but i
missed that one on the IE-Only style sheet. 

Thanks.   I knew having a fresh eye look at it would see something that i
was too close to to notice -  couldn't see the wood for the trees.



Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks
http://afpwebworks.com 
ColdFusion 9 Enterprise, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month



-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Tatham Oddie
Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 4:14 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Need a fresh eye - can anyone see what's wrong please?

Mike,

This line is invalid:

background-image: #33 url(images/Footer_background_s1.jpg);

You're defining both the color *and* the url in the image property.

Either change it to:

background-image: url(images/Footer_background_s1.jpg);
background-color: #33;

or:

background: #33 url(images/Footer_background_s1.jpg);

This is invalid across all browsers, it's just that IE8 is the only one that
seems to actually care.




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RE: [WSG] Why does IE show text decoration on these buttons?

2010-05-03 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks a lot for everyone who has shown interest in my little issue.  

The problem is around the menubar at the top of this site.  They're in a
table cell that's specified as follows: 

td colspan=3 id=menubar align=center

They are images with no rollover activity required.The IE style sheet,
called uniquecelebrations_iehacks.css  has the following: 


#menubar a:link,
#menubar a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
#menubar a:hover,
#menubar a:active {
text-decoration: none;
border: none;
font-weight: normal;
}

I have checked that these rules do indeed select the button images in
question by putting a ridiculously large border in the hover/active rule,
and I have seen the border appear and disappear when the mouse rolls over
them.   So I know these rules select what I want them to.   What I don't
understand is why these rules don't override the text-decoration: underline
which is required elsewhere in the site.

There's a screenshot of what I'm talking about at
http://uniquecelebrations.com.au/screenshot.jpg.  In my system this problem
doesn't appear in Chrome or Firefox but does appear in IE7. 

http://uniquecelebrations.com.au/ 

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0414 622 847
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 
http://afpwebworks.com 
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-Original Message-
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Harish Chouhan
Sent: Monday, 3 May 2010 3:52 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Why does IE show text decoration on these buttons?

Hello Mike,

I checked your website in FireFox, IE8, IE7  IE6, it behaves same
everywhere. A screenshot of the issue you are saying would help. Also trying
adding a !important next to the text decoration rule in the CSS for IE7.


Regards,
Harish Chouhan




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The solution (was: [WSG] Why does IE show text decoration on these buttons?)

2010-05-03 Thread Mike Kear
Ei Sabai Nyo, thank you, you win the prize!  By golly it works. 

When I saw your suggestion, I thought to myself 'that wont work what's
background got to do with it?'  but I tried it anyway, and the issue has
been fixed. 

So now I have to ask – why does it work?   What made you say that?
Background was waay down on my list of things to check out. 

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0414 622 847
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 
http://afpwebworks.com 
Full Scale ColdFusion 9 hosting from A$15/month




From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Ei Sabai Nyo
Sent: Monday, 3 May 2010 4:06 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Re: WSG Digest

If you set background: transparent to the a:hover for those navigation
items, it will solve the issue.  


Anansi Web Development - http://www.anansi.com.au/

Web Development Blog - http://eisabainyo.net/weblog/


  





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[WSG] OT: Dominos Pizza - Looking for someone who's worked there

2009-06-15 Thread Mike Kear
This is off-topic for this list so please respond direct to me rather than
the list ...  

I'm looking to have a quick chat to someone who's worked at Dominos Pizza
some time in the last 5 years - not necessarily in the IT area - even
someone who's delivered pizzas would do.  But if you've worked there or know
something of how they operate, I'd be grateful if you could contact me.
(Just being a customer isn't enough - I am too) 

I need to ask a fairly basic question about an aspect of their operations -
I wont be asking you to break any confidences and its not for any competing
project. 

Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0422 985 585
02-4577-4898
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 
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RE: [WSG] SEO - how to upgrade my skills?

2009-05-11 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks for that little gem, Luke.I was kind of hoping for advice on the
best way to learn more about SEO, and the most up todate techniques.  I got
a bit depressed when I googled SEO, and the first 50 or so results on what I
searched for had dates in 2005.   I feel sure that SEO has changed since
2005.   Maybe it hasn't. 

 

And my site is out of date and is being upgraded.  Those errors you refer to
are a result of the WYSIWYG inline editor I used on my AFPv3.1 CMS.  It's
since been brought up to date and on the AFPv4.0CMS's I'm installing for
clients the results are up todate and much more compliant. I'll upgrade
my own site when I get time, but paying work takes precedence over
non-paying work in our household.

 

Thanks for pointing it out.  Just what I needed.

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 

 http://afpwebworks.com http://afpwebworks.com 

Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Luke Hoggett
Sent: Monday, 11 May 2009 4:22 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] SEO - how to upgrade my skills?

 

HI,

The internet is a great resource. You won't get a certificate from it, but
you will learn.

btw your site has 62 validation errors, even transitional XHTML doesn't like




href=http://afpwebworks.com/Index.cfm?pid=25


with no quotes on the attribute.

also font id deprecated.

Cheers
Luke

Mike Kear wrote: 

I'm sorry if this is off topic.  I think it crosses over standards because
it relates in a way,   I hope you'll be a bit forgiving to me...

 

I need to upgrade my Search Engine Optimisation skills.  I've had quite good
success at getting good rankings for my clients with attention to standards,
good practices with design and coding,  but I feel I need to know more about
SEO and ought to update my skills in this area.  I need to learn more about
current techniques and become more skilful at the techniques I use. 

 

So I'm asking for your advice.What's the best way for me to update SEO
skills?

 

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 

http://afpwebworks.com 

Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

 


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[WSG] SEO - how to upgrade my skills?

2009-05-11 Thread Mike Kear
I'm sorry if this is off topic.  I think it crosses over standards because
it relates in a way,   I hope you'll be a bit forgiving to me...

 

I need to upgrade my Search Engine Optimisation skills.  I've had quite good
success at getting good rankings for my clients with attention to standards,
good practices with design and coding,  but I feel I need to know more about
SEO and ought to update my skills in this area.  I need to learn more about
current techniques and become more skilful at the techniques I use. 

 

So I'm asking for your advice.What's the best way for me to update SEO
skills?

 

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 

http://afpwebworks.com 

Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

 



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[WSG] PNG - how cross-browser standard reliable?

2009-04-27 Thread Mike Kear
I'm looking at a whole bunch of icons to use in a new app I'm building, and
rather than convert them all to gifs,   I was thinking of leaving them as
the .png format they are now.They work on all the browsers I use, but
I'm wondering what everyone else's experience has been of using .pngs in web
pages. 

 

Last time I tried using a png, I found it worked ok in some browsers and not
in others.   Is this still a relevant issue?

 

Cheers

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[WSG] Was given a shocker this week ...

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Kear
You might be amused to learn about the site I was given to rebuild this
week.It was built by a photographer who had a mac and some free
software, and the client said the problem was she had to get someone to
update it for her every time she changed anything in her business.  She
wanted a content management system.  

 

That's no problem for me - that's mostly what I do .   But I was appalled
when I saw the site she was asking me to rebuild .. .  here's what I found -
the work of a woman who was claiming to be a professional web designer: 

 

[A]  the site consisted of 8 html pages

[B]  each page consisted of some invalid html code produced by a WYSIWYG
app, presumably used incorrectly since most WYSIWYG apps are CAPABLE of
producing valid code.

[C] the content on each page consisted of a single image for the header
1169px x 168px  and another jpg image with all the text, photos etc  702px x
961px

[D]  because of the sizes of the header image and the body image,   none of
the pages could ever possibly line up across the page without a lot of
tinkering about.

[E]  the html contained no content whatever, except the name of the designer

[F]  all links inside the pages were using image maps - something I haven't
used for about  ten years.  I don't think I'd even remember how to do that
now if I had to.

[G]  the layout problems caused by the different widths of the header and
the image in the body were corrected by nesting tables with lots of cells
and a transparent spacer gif to stretch the cells out.   I didn't bother
working out why there were so many of these spacer tables,  I knew at a
glance I wasn't going to be needing anything in this code! 

[H] because my client has had such trouble getting her site updated on a
timely basis,  she has taken the site away and is hosting it with me,  which
has sparked off a war between my client and her former web designer,
complaining that I have taken her site by using a web archive, in violation
of her rights to copyright.  (As a first step, I used a browser to copy the
files from her existing site, so I could see what's in there,  just in case
the former designer decided to take it off line.Which she did.   So it
was a good precaution.   Then while my client and I are discussing her new
site,  I put the existing one up in her new hosting space with me just so
the site stays alive while we work out what to do.You can almost hear
the former web designer frothing at the mouth as she rants and raves on the
phone DEMANDING that I pull everything down off the web within ONE HOUR - OR
ELSE!!)

 

It's like a cat fight.I'm expecting to see them both pulling each others
hair, biting, and rolling in the mud any time soon.

 

Anyway, I'd done quite a few sites now that I've enhanced by making them
standards compliant, but I think this is the most extreme case I've seen -
well since I tried Frontpage v2.0 all those years ago.

 

Maybe I can write it up as a case study later when the new site is up.  If
the client agrees.

 

 

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

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RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Kear
In my case,  the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was
representative of the internet as a whole.  The bigger of the two sites I've
used is a radio station.  It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats. 

All I was saying is it's the first time I've seen IE as not the top browser.
(one swallow does not a summer make!)

It's clear from this discussion that the numbers are all over the place.
There are people at the radio station who try to tell me that the world is
going mac and we ought to be replacing our network to macs.   I say these
stats don't support that, at least in our case, and whether or not we should
replace our network to macs needs to be for a reason other than 'that's what
everyone else is using'!  (which was never a good reason in the first
place!)

There were those who were saying not all that long ago that IE was a gonner,
and we'd all best pay attention to Opera.   Then along came Firefox,   now
I'd suggest it's anyone's race and the main contenders are IE, Firefox,
Chrome  and all the others together add up to a long way behind.

The significance for us as web developers is that all this competition is
tending towards standardisation.   If things had been different, it could
easily have gone along the lines of our browser is better because it has
all these proprietary commands it understands.   Remember how it was in the
days when Netscape and IE were the only ones on the block? They would
each try to outdo each other with new features they were developing and the
whole idea of standardisation was a pipe dream.   We had to develop a IE
version and a Netscape version of our sites.   Now, the browsers are
righting with each other to be more standard than the others. 

THAT makes life  a LOT easier for us! As long as no one has any overpowering
majority, they all have to pay attention to each other.  


Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0422 985 585
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 
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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Al Sparber
Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 4:23 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com

 OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library
 site, IE7 rules and Chrome is  0.5%
 
 Browser  Website IE7/IE6
 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20)
 Firefox 9.29% 
 Safari   2.17%
 Chrome0.47% 
 Opera   0.27%

Fascinating.

Can you provide some demographic context to this library site?

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RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Kear
Enough people have told me their figures are completely different to mine,
but I don't much care about that.  The point is the same - while IE is no
longer the towering majority in the web browser wars, we have a fighting
chance of bringing sanity to browsers. If IE7 became the 80%-90% browser
like IE5 once was,   then at Microsoft they'll be starting to say once more
we don't have to care about standards - we ARE the standard and everyone
else will have to match what we do!

 

Thankfully,   Firefox and Chrome are going to ensure Microsoft doesn't get
into that position again.

 

TO answer your specific question, William,  yes I use Chrome myself while
I'm developing but i hardly ever browse the site.  I usually browse the
development version of this site while I'm working on it,  and only ever go
to the production version of the site to check a page I've just uploaded is
the same as on my dev machine.   So my own browsing is not significant in
those numbers.

 

 

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 

 http://afpwebworks.com http://afpwebworks.com 

Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of William Donovan
Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 10:54 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

 

You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing?

 

I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the
site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean themselves
of my bias.

 



William Donovan
mobile: 0403 263 284



2009/3/3 Mike Kear w...@afpwebworks.com

In my case,  the sample is fairly small, and I never suggested it was
representative of the internet as a whole.  The bigger of the two sites I've
used is a radio station.  It has 54,000 user sessions in that set of stats.

All I was saying is it's the first time I've seen IE as not the top browser.
(one swallow does not a summer make!)

It's clear from this discussion that the numbers are all over the place.
There are people at the radio station who try to tell me that the world is
going mac and we ought to be replacing our network to macs.   I say these
stats don't support that, at least in our case, and whether or not we should
replace our network to macs needs to be for a reason other than 'that's what
everyone else is using'!  (which was never a good reason in the first
place!)

There were those who were saying not all that long ago that IE was a gonner,
and we'd all best pay attention to Opera.   Then along came Firefox,   now
I'd suggest it's anyone's race and the main contenders are IE, Firefox,
Chrome  and all the others together add up to a long way behind.

The significance for us as web developers is that all this competition is
tending towards standardisation.   If things had been different, it could
easily have gone along the lines of our browser is better because it has
all these proprietary commands it understands.   Remember how it was in the
days when Netscape and IE were the only ones on the block? They would
each try to outdo each other with new features they were developing and the
whole idea of standardisation was a pipe dream.   We had to develop a IE
version and a Netscape version of our sites.   Now, the browsers are
righting with each other to be more standard than the others.

THAT makes life  a LOT easier for us! As long as no one has any overpowering
majority, they all have to pay attention to each other.



Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
0422 985 585
Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
AFP Webworks Pty Ltd
http://afpwebworks.com
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From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On

Behalf Of Al Sparber
Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 4:23 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

From: Nick Cowie cowie.n...@gmail.com

 OK here are some other interesting stats from another major library
 site, IE7 rules and Chrome is  0.5%

 Browser  Website IE7/IE6
 Internet Explorer 86.88% (80/20)
 Firefox 9.29%
 Safari   2.17%
 Chrome0.47%
 Opera   0.27%

Fascinating.

Can you provide some demographic context to this library site?

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RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-03 Thread Mike Kear
As I said I hardly ever browse the production site.  It's hardly worth the
effort.Out of the 54,000 page views in the figures I was quoting
earlier, my own browsing would account for maybe 50 .   Hardly more than
that - I do my development off line using my own dev server,  then only
check a page looks like it's supposed to after I upload it.  

 

 

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 

 http://afpwebworks.com http://afpwebworks.com 

Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Matthew Pennell
Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 12:36 AM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

 

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM, William Donovan donovan.will...@gmail.com
wrote:

You don't by any chance use chrome yourself while you're developing?

 

I noticed that I mainly use Firefox and I had to stop going back to the
site after it was built to allow the data / statistics to clean themselves
of my bias.


You can (and should) filter out your own visits by IP address within
Analytics reports.

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[WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-02 Thread Mike Kear
For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most
prominent server on my two highest traffic sites. 

 

Google Chrome now amounts to over half the traffic on these sites. Not sure
what that means for us as web developers, but it would certainly be
significant for Microsoft people if it was translated across the web.   Of
course other sites will have a different pattern, depending on the audience.

 

On these two sites, the breakdown is like this: 

Unknown: 1.86% 

IE: 38.85% 

Bots,Spiders: 1.47% 

Firefox: 4.91% 

Google Chrome: 51.35% 

Opera: 0.72% 

Safari: 0.46% 

Netscape: 0.22% 

Other: 0.15% - 

 

 

Cheers

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RE: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

2009-03-02 Thread Mike Kear
Oops.There's a senior moment.   Of course I mean IE is not the highest
traffic BROWSER on these two sites of mine,  not SERVER.  

 

Sorry.

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

AFP Webworks Pty Ltd 

http://afpwebworks.com 

Full Scale ColdFusion hosting from A$15/month

 

 

From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On
Behalf Of Mike Kear
Sent: Tuesday, 3 March 2009 12:03 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Chrome now higher traffic than IE

 

For the first time since I started building web sites, IE is not the most
prominent server on my two highest traffic sites. 

 

Google Chrome now amounts to over half the traffic on these sites. Not sure
what that means for us as web developers, but it would certainly be
significant for Microsoft people if it was translated across the web.   Of
course other sites will have a different pattern, depending on the audience.

 

On these two sites, the breakdown is like this: 

Unknown: 1.86% 

IE: 38.85% 

Bots,Spiders: 1.47% 

Firefox: 4.91% 

Google Chrome: 51.35% 

Opera: 0.72% 

Safari: 0.46% 

Netscape: 0.22% 

Other: 0.15% - 

 

 

Cheers

Mike Kear

Windsor, NSW, Australia

0422 985 585

Adobe Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer 

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RE: [WSG] BIIIIIIIG white space in Firefox not IE6

2005-04-29 Thread Mike Kear
Thanks Bert - you pointed me at the problem .  I have 'clear:left' in lots
of places.

So that's solved that problem.  Now I have another 

http://atalkingdog.com/goarticle.cfm?pid=716354  shows a series of
paragraphs with pointers to other pages.  But now they're indenting and not
clearing.  If I put a 'clear:left' in the teaserpara div, which contains
these things it messes up the page horribly.

Whats' the best way I can fix this?   

Page is at http://atalkingdog.com/goarticle.cfm?pid=716354   and the
relevant style sheets are at 

http://atalkingdog.com/styles/atalkingdog3.css and 
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To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: Re: [WSG] BIIIG white space in Firefox not IE6

G'day

  http://atalkingdog.com/goArticle.cfm?pid=11

Can't quite see all causes of the problem but your clearing of h1 
is a contributing factor - it clears the menu div on left, so it 
drops down to the next line.

You may have other issues that are contributing but I haven't got 
time to analyse all those nested divs and the corresponding CSS.

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[WSG] BIIIIIIIG white space in Firefox not IE6

2005-04-28 Thread Mike Kear
Can anyone see where Ive got this wrong please?   In Firefox1.0, the
content in the body aligns below the image in the left column.  At first I
thought it was  a width issue  Id made the content too wide for the size
of the div, but thats not the case.  No matter how wide I set the screen
(and Ive just recently been able to set it to 1600!! Brag brag)  it still
aligns below the lowest content on the left.

Ive tried everything I can think of, but Im obviously unable to think of
the proper solution.Can anyone help please?

The page in question is at
http://atalkingdog.com/goArticle.cfm?pid=11  (and yes, thats me so no
personal comments!)

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RE: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

2005-04-27 Thread Mike Kear
Nice Job, Peter.  You have every right to be proud of it. 

Incidentally I'm not sure why you'd want a max salary field, unless you've
ever heard of someone saying what??? No!!! You're not going to pay me that
much!  I'm only going to work for half that   That's certainly an
expression I can't imagine ever uttering myself.  

Good work.  You're a leader in our industry.


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Subject: Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

G'day

[snip]

One more thing and then I'll go   In Firefox, if I click on 
the dropdown for maximum salary, it does not let me select (it 
appears, then disappears immediately).  I have to hold my mouse 
down and drag to make a selection.  Annoying.\
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RE: [WSG] Sydney WSG meeting tonight

2005-04-27 Thread Mike Kear
I'd love to be there, but sadly Thursday nights is bad for me I have a
totally inflexible other commitment.

But I wish you all well, and I'll be thinking of you while I try to keep my
eyelids from drooping with the boredom of what I have to do instead.


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Sent: Thursday, 28 April 2005 9:20 AM
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Subject: [WSG] Sydney WSG meeting tonight

Just a reminder as we only have 6 RSVPs so far and that means there won't be

much beer/wine/food purchased.

If you're coming and haven't let us know you might want to think about 
shooting off an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] before I leave the 
Hunter Valley to do the shopping at 11am or we may all be fighting over the 
last bottle of beer.

http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event34.cfm

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[WSG] Peekaboo Bug giving problems

2005-03-26 Thread Mike Kear








I seem to be chasing the IE peekaboo bug around my web
page. Every time I get rid of it in one place, it gets fixed, only to
reveal itself somewhere else. Can anyone see whats
causing it to happen now? 



The page is at http://atalkingdog.com
and the CSS is at http://atalkingdog.com/styles/atalkingdog3.css




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[WSG] Menu sits above the line in IE - anyone see why?

2005-02-03 Thread Mike Kear
I've been trying to figure this one out for a while now, and I can't
see what's wrong. (I'm learning - but painfully slowly it seems) The
top navigation menu sits where it's supposed to in Firefox (the bottom of
the menu should touch the top of the white 'content' area) but in IE it's
about 20pixels higher. Can anyone see where I've got it
wrong? I've tried everything I can think of but obviously
havent found the right tweak yet.
The page is at http://staging.atalkingdog.com/goArticle.cfm?pid=799713
and the CSS is at http://staging.atalkingdog.com/styles/atalkingdog3.css
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RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)

2005-02-01 Thread Mike Kear
With radio buttons, no value is passed to the form's action page unless one
of the options is selected. This will normally cause an error in
the processing page unless special consideration is given to this
possibility.Normally if there are radio buttons on the form, it is
best to ensure that at least one option is
selected.CheersMike KearAFP Webworks Pty
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- Original Message From:
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgTo: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org"
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: RE: [WSG] Default state of
radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)Date: 01/02/05 20:56I think this is like FAQs - my FAQ is never
there. Likewise, pre-set a controlto option A and I'm equally likely to
want option B.IMHO pre-setting options for the user (unless they're
VERY obvious) is likemaking assumptions about them.That said,
RFC1866 says 'CHECKED' is optional but then says "At all times,exactly
one of the radio buttons in a set is checked. If none of the
INPUTelements of a set of radio buttons specifies 'CHECKED',
then the user agentmust check the first radio button of the set
initially."Does anybody know why one button has to be checked "at
all times" in acircumstance like Chris referred
to?ThanksRowanQuoting Iain Gardiner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oops, sorry I didn't really read
your question thoroughly. Surely an e-mail address will be
either a personal or a business address. Personally I'd set
the default to personal as this seems to me the most likely
option. Iain -- Iain
Gardiner http://www.firelightning.com
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris W.
Parker Sent: 01 February 2005 19:12 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe
OT?) Hello, Not sure if this is off
topic or not, but let me know if it is. I'm wondering what
the suggested default state of a group of radio buttons is?
Let me use a current, specific example. In a form I'm
writing I have one set of radio buttons. The current options
are 'Home', or 'Agency'. The radio button is meant to designate what
type of mailing address the customer has provided. Right now I've
got neither option being defaulted to. I know that radio
buttons should have exactly one option chosen at all times,
but in this case it doesn't make sense to add a third option
of 'None', or have the group default to one option or the
other. How should I handle this? Should I bite the bullet
and have the options default to one of the options (both options
will probably be chosen an equal amount of times, as has
been the case in the past)? Or maybe I should go to a drop
down list with three options? 1. '-', 2. 'Home', 3.
'Agency' Your feedback is
appreciated. Chris.
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Re: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)

2005-02-01 Thread Mike Kear
There are reasons why you might not want to select a 'default' on radio
buttons. It can distort your data.For example, if you have
option 1 checked as the default, and a user forgets to choose one of
the options, they're selecting option 1 anyway. This may be erroneous
data. (Or it may not matter in which case, do whatever you like). For
example in a survey, if youindicate any default answers, you are
automatically slanting the results, and if someone doesnt make a choice to a
question, they wont get a warning popup, instead they will have a selection
of your default entered. How will you know which of the results are
where users have selected option 1, and which are where they have forgotten
to give an answer at all?That's not to say you shouldn't use default
answers. I'm saying you shouldn't always use defaults just
because the 'normal' practice is to do so. If the radio button
gathers important data, another practice could well be to offer no defaults,
but instead show a warning or some kind if the user doesnt select one or the
other and force them to choose before you process the rest of the
form.CheersMike KearAFP Webworks Pty LtdWindsor, NSW,
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- Original Message From:
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgTo: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org"
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Default state of
radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)Date: 01/02/05 22:53IIRC though, while RFC 1866 says "exactly one"
the checked attributeis optional in W3C guidelines.HTML 4.01
(and thus also the XHTML 1 series)
state:[http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/interact/forms.html#radio]If
no radio button in a set sharing the same control name isinitially "on",
user agent behavior for choosing which control isinitially "on" is
undefined.So if you leave them both undefined, some UAs will
select the first,some will select neither. I can't see many doing
anything else. It'snot standards aversion and I can't see why that's not
ok. HTML4.01spec goes on to say that authors should ensure one is
selected bydefault but I'm not sure why you need consistant behavior in
thiscase.If worst comes to worst, just have whichever one comes
first in thepage checked="checked". You'll be "inconveniancing" roughly
half thepeople no matter which is checked by default. If neither are
thenit's the same "inconvenience" for everyone.I guess I'm
saying that I'd consider this a moot point - checkwhichever you'd like
and the user will deal with it.Regards,mjecOn
Wed, 2 Feb 2005 08:54:31 +1100, Wybrow,
Mark[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or pass
hidden parameters onto the action page ... these then can be over
ridden if the radio is selected
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Subject: RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe
OT?) With radio buttons, no value is passed to the
form's action page unless one of the options is selected. This will
normally cause an error in the processing page unless special
consideration is given to this possibility. Normally if
there are radio buttons on the form, it is best to ensure that at
least one option is selected. Cheers Mike
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To: "wsg@webstandardsgroup.org" wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?) Date:
01/02/05 20:56 I think this is like FAQs - my FAQ is
never there. Likewise, pre-set a control to option A and I'm
equally likely to want option B. IMHO pre-setting options
for the user (unless they're VERY obvious) is like making
assumptions about them. That said, RFC1866 says 'CHECKED' is
optional but then says "At all times, exactly one of the radio
buttons in a set is checked. If none of the INPUT elements
of a set of radio buttons specifies 'CHECKED', then the user agent
must check the first radio button of the set initially."
Does anybody know why one button has to be checked "at all times" in
a circumstance like Chris referred to?
Thanks Rowan Quoting Iain Gardiner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:  Oops, sorry I didn't
really read your question thoroughly. Surely an  e-mail
 address will be either a personal or a business address. Personally
I'd  set  the default to personal as this seems to
me the most likely option.   Iain
  --  Iain Gardiner 
http://www.firelightning.com 
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Re: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)

2005-02-01 Thread Mike Kear
Perhaps, Kornel, but in that case how to you tell the difference between
responses where people preferred not to say/didn't know (i.e. an answer to
the question), and where people didn't answer the question or didnt notice
it?There are cases where a default is a bad thing, and you need to
be able to handle forms with no answer, rather than providing a
default. In another example, providing a default may slant
your responses in favour of the default, because respondents think that's
the answer you're wanting. Ever-obliging they tend to give the answer
they think the questioner wants.--CheersMike
KearWindsor, NSW, AustraliaCertified Advanced ColdFusion
DeveloperAFP Webworkshttp://afpwebworks.comColdFusion, PHP, ASP,
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- Original Message Good surveys need "don't know/prefer not to
answer" for every question andthat might be a good
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Re: [WSG] Default state of radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)

2005-02-01 Thread Mike Kear
Well I got involved in it because (i thought) someone said at the beginning
of this thread that it was only valid markup if a set of radio buttons had
one and only one 'checked' item.My point was that regardless of the
validity of the code, it is sometimes invalid communications/user interface
to have one and only one 'checked' item at all times. I said,
and still hold to the view, that sometimes a form has to be presented with
none of the radio buttons 'checked'.That's the relevance to
standards - i.e. that if it's only standard if there is a default radio
button and never valid if none of them are 'checked' then the standard is
wrong and ought to be changed.CheersMike KearWindsor,
NSW, AustraliaCertified Advanced ColdFusion DeveloperAFP
Webworkshttp://afpwebworks.comColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting
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- Original Message From:
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgTo: "WSG"
wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: Re: [WSG] Default state of
radio buttons. (Maybe OT?)Date: 02/02/05 03:56I hesitantly suggest a good place for this
discussion would be on JustinFrench's Interface list.http://lists.indent.com.au/mailman/listinfo/interfaceCheersChris
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Re: [WSG] Floats dont float - can you see what i've got wrong please?

2005-01-26 Thread Mike Kear
Yeah, I know Bert,  But i did it in a tent, with the sounds of surf in my 
ear, and the smell of cool beverages in my nostrils.Whoever said working 
for yourself was a bad thing!!?   So I didnt have all my reference stuff 
with me, nor access to the net to look up how to do stuff.  I just wanted it 
done as fast as possibled so i could get back down to the beach.

It's a temporary site, to hold the fort while i build him a 'proper' site 
with shopping cart, specification forms for custom quotes etc, so i just 
wanted his existing catalogue content on the web as fast as i could.

Thanks for your help, it fixed the problem.
Cheers
Mike Kear
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Macromedia Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer.
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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Floats dont float - can you see what i've got wrong 
please?


G'day
the page is at http://www.grandchesterdesigns.com.au/Buffets.htm  - I'd 
be REALLY grateful if i could get this page looking proper by the 
weekend,  so if anyone could help me, I'd be most grateful.
Add the following to #menucontainer:
  clear:left;
  float:left;
Remove the following from #content:
  clear:left;
That should fix it.
I won't comment on the use of tables...  OK, I did :-)
Regards
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[WSG] Floats dont float - can you see what i've got wrong please?

2005-01-25 Thread Mike Kear



I'm away from all my reference materials, and have 
net access only 30 minutes a day, so I hope you'll forgive me asking a simple 
questoin - I've tried everything I can think of and havent been able to fix my 
problem. 

the page is at http://www.grandchesterdesigns.com.au/Buffets.htm 
- content box, surrounded by a red border, ought to be up at the top of the 
page, alongside the menu (surrounded by the green border) but it isnt. 


I've floated left, and removed float. I've 
tried all the position combinations i'can think of, and i've tinked all i can 
with the location of the divs. Can anyone else see where i've got it 
wrong?

I havent validated the page externally, because i 
dont have online time to do it. I'll do it when i get back home again next 
week. but it validates in my own internal validator. 

The CSS is at http://www.grandchesterdesigns.com.au/styles/GrandchesterDesigns01.css 


I'd be REALLY grateful if i could get this page 
looking proper by the weekend, so if anyone could help me, I'd be most 
grateful.

Cheers
Mike Kear
AFP Webworks
Windsor, NSW, Australia.


Re: [WSG] Convert uppercase file names to lower case

2005-01-20 Thread Mike Kear
Helen there's no need to cringe if you use Dreamweaver. It's an extremely 
professional development tool.   People produce rubbish from it, but other 
people produce sites that are quite sublime.

I do believe there's a setting in DreamweaverMX that allows you to convert 
all links to lower case.  There's a preferences setting that you can specify 
all lower case tags, all lower case attributes (and also all upper case if 
you prefer) and if you use the convert to XHTML feature (File  Convert  to 
XHTML) it will convert the page to valid XHTML as far as it's able.  It will 
give you warnings for anyhing it's unable to do (e.g. add alt tags to 
images).  Amongst the things in this process is convert all tags to lower 
case.

First of all, convert your page (or pages) to XHTML  then select Commands  
Clean up xhtml  and it'll remove deprecated tags, remove any that you want 
removed,  tidy up improperly nested tags, close off unclosed tags such as 
br, and change all your tags (including href)  to lower case.  I havent 
tested it, but I dont think it changes the filename you are 'hreffing' to 
lower case, but if the page is inside your  site, changing its name should 
have Dreamweaver changing every page that links to it.

Hope this helps.
Cheers
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
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Lovely, thanks - I will definitely keep this handy.
Now is there any way of making sure all the href urls in the site are in
lower case too?  I use DW (please don't cringe) and normally when you make
a change it updates all the links.   Some of the links are mixed case that
is why I need to do this as well.
Thanks
Helen
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[WSG] Why does my menu float high in IE?

2005-01-18 Thread Mike Kear



Can anyone see why my menu is floating above the 
content div in IE6? It's supposed to be touching the white area below it, 
as it does in Firefox and Netscape, but for a reason I can't find, in IE6 it 
floats above and resists any attempt I've made to bring it to heel.

Obviously it's possible to get it to behave, 
because others have made it do so, but all the things I've tried have come to 
naught. I'm clearly missing something simple, but can't figure out what it 
is. I just KNOW its going to be one of those moments when you slap 
your forehead and say OH YEAH!! OF COURSE!!!

The page in question is at http://staging.atalkingdog.com 
and the style sheet is at http://staging.atalkingdog.com/styles/atalkingdog3.css 


Cheers,
Mike Kear
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[WSG] Footer on the very bottom of the viewing port

2004-04-07 Thread Mike Kear
I want to have a footer stuck to the bottom of the browser window, but if
the window reduces in size, the footer goes over the top of other page
content. What I'd like to do is have the footer stick to the bottom
of the browser, except ifit collides with other page content, which
will push it down below the bottom of the viewing port and have a vertical
scroll bar appear.Is this possible with CSS? I know it's done
with tables, because that's how this site is now, butI want to get rid
of these tables.CheersMike KearAFP Webworks, Windsor,
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