Re: [WSG] Screenshot tool

2005-06-20 Thread Neerav

Thanks Jose

www.browsershots.org looks like a very useful service

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Jose Florido wrote:

Hi!
 
Try http://www.browsershots.org/ it's an app similar to browsercam but 
it's free :)
 
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*From:* Colm Walsh mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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*Subject:* [WSG] Screenshot tool

I'm trying to locate that really handy site that allow you to
preview screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform
combinations. Does anyone know the URL.
 
Regards,

Colm

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[WSG] Best way to embed WMV file in webpage?

2005-06-01 Thread Neerav

Hi

I have to embed a WMV (Windows Media Video) file on a page in a clients 
website and would appreciate any tips to improve the code used in my 
test page at http://www.rci.com.au/en/test/test.htm


FYI a quick test in Firefox, IE6 and Opera 8 worked fine

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Re: [WSG] Two questions: SEO document structure and font resizing

2005-05-31 Thread Neerav

You cant stop font resizing in mozilla, and thank goodness for that :-)

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Conversant Studios wrote:

Hey there guys,

I'll get straight to it - here's the site I'm referring to - 
http://www.travelinsurancecompared.com.au/


2. Font resizing

The navigation on the site is pretty locked in and I had to use absolute 
font sizes (px) rather than relative which I normally use. However, the 
fonts still resize in mozilla browsers and some others.


I know this is a heretical question - but how do I stop it?

Look forward to your learned responses,
Benvolio

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Re: [WSG] mambo and web standards

2005-05-17 Thread Neerav
Im not a WSG moderator, but I know they'll soon point you to joining 
cms@webstandardsgroup.org where your post is not off-topic (OT)

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john wrote:
Greetings,
I'm strongly considering using Mambo as a CMS, mainly because I have a 
new client that requires a back-end real estate solution, and Mosets has 
created, from what I can tell, exactly what the client needs.

I've never used a CMS before, so I'm wondering if anybody could relieve 
my fears (or justify them).  Can I create a web site for this client, 
and then integrate Mambo into it, or do I have to think further ahead 
and set things up in Mambo, then build a template for it?  I'm sorry if 
those are silly questions, but...well...like I said, I've never used a 
CMS before. :)

Getting more to the point (and on-topic), does Mambo support web 
standards?  I'm obviously going to use CSS and XHTML on this, so I need 
to be sure that I'm not getting into something that goes against my 
design ethics.

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[WSG] excerpt:SitePoint Design View #9 - Small Screen Development

2005-05-13 Thread Neerav
Testing for Smartphones  PDAs
So, you were won over to the 'standards compliancy' argument. You now build 
your pages to HTML standards and sleep soundly in the knowledge that your work 
is accessible and device-independent.
Ok, the reality isn't quite that easy, but it's a good place to start.
The most depressing part is that, with the proliferation of phone/PDA-based 
browsing, there are now dozens of mobile browsers out there with viable 
markets. The list of key players include AvantGo, Blazer, DoCoMo, EudoraWeb, 
ftxBrowser, PalmSource, Nokia Mobile Browser, NetFront, OpenWave, Opera for 
Mobile, Plucker and Xiino -- just to name a few.
The second depressing thing is they are actually getting harder to design for 
as they become more 'advanced'. In the past you could rely on them to simply 
ignore JavaScript and CSS. Not any more. Most now know just enough to get you 
into trouble.
Fortunately, at this point in time, most of us aren't required to focus on 
delivering content to mobile devices. However, with Tim Berners-Lee this week 
announcing the W3C's 'Mobile Web Initiative', I thought now might be a good 
time for you to see how your current code fairs.
So, assuming you don't own 50 phones, how can you find out? Here are a few ideas, listed from easiest to hardest in terms of setup and use. 
to get the full article you'll have to subscribe to Sitepoints Design
View email newsletter http://www.sitepoint.com/newsletter/archives.php
But a quick summary is:
1. Opera's Small Screen Rendering Mode - www.opera.com
2. WinWap's free Smartphone Browser Emulator
-http://www.winwap.com/downloads.php
3. Openwave's Phone Simulator 7.0 -
http://developer.openwave.com/dvl/tools_and_sdk/openwave_mobile_sdk/phone_simulator/
4. Nokia's Mobile Browser -
http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/0,6566,034-13,00.html
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[WSG] Minimum browsers/OS tested for?

2005-05-11 Thread Neerav
Hi
I havent asked this for a while so it would be interesting to know what 
the current trend in Browser/Operating system support is for the 
freelancers/corporates on this list to see if there has been any change 
in the last 6-12 months

Theoretical example 1: we used to design for 5.x browsers but recently 
stopped doing so without charging clients an extra XX%

Theoretical example 2: we didn't test functionality on Mozilla before, 
but the increasing usage of Mozilla in site statistics convinced 
management to allow time for Mozilla testing

etc etc
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Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?

2005-05-09 Thread Neerav
Andreas
If you mean can you stop text resizing in Firefox even though the user 
types CTRL+ or CTRL- , than the short answer is No.

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Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote:
Is there any way to overcome Firefox' accessibility and fix the font-size?
Thanks heaps for the feedback!
Andreas.
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Re: [WSG] Can fonts be fixed in firefox?

2005-05-09 Thread Neerav
Parker
If you mean a *css* background image than it has no semantic meaning and 
therefore needs no alt information (nor could you add any alt 
information to a css created background image if you wanted to anyway)

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Parker Torrence wrote:
On 5/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But *please*, for the love of accesibility, make sure the images have
meaningful
alt attribute set...
P

How does one set an alt attribute for a background image?
Parker
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Re: [WSG] font list?

2005-05-05 Thread Neerav
what you need is:
http://www.visibone.com/font/tests.html
http://www.visibone.com/font/FontResults.html :-)
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john wrote:
Hello, everybody.
Not specifically related to standards, but I hope this is a simply 
enough question that somebody can respond.

No matter how hard I try to explain, one of my clients just cannot 
understand that fonts are taken from the user's computer when they view 
the page.  Basically, he can't shake the distinctions between print 
design and web design.

What I need is a site that shows the different fonts that are 
recommended for web design.  It would be nice if there were some kind of 
PDF I can print, but I can also go to his office and show him online if 
need be.

Does such a chart exist?
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Re: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout

2005-05-04 Thread Neerav
martin
I believe you mean To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism  to 
steal from many is research :-)

In practical terms this means don't just copy sitepoints (or anyone 
else's) code directly because this is neither ethical or legal and you 
wont learn how to do it properly

Instead find other sites that achieve the same effect, compare and 
contrast, and cobble together the ideal solution for your needs

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Martin Baylis wrote:
Take a look at
http://www.sitepoint.com/article/how-to-hire-a-web-designer
All of the inside pages have the hide nav style design I think your talking
about.
good designers copy, great designers steal
M
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Subject: [WSG] liquid 2-3 column layout
Hi,
I'd like to make a site with the option of 2 or 3 columns.
The Nav column (left)and content column (centre) would always be present.
The news column on the right would be optional.
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[WSG] [Possibly OT] Conundrum between attribution VS disclosure for results of work

2005-05-02 Thread Neerav
Hi
I am in a conundrum at the moment and dont know which right is legally 
stronger out of attribution VS disclosure

attribution = the right to be identified as the creator of material (ie: 
my right)

disclosure = the right to determine if and when material is made public 
(right of the companies I've subcontracted for)

Background: I do a lot of sub-contractual work, mainly using web 
standards eg: converting invalid code to standards compliant code, 
advising developers how to improve their practices, working from a 
photoshop template to create an XHTML/CSS template etc

My problem is when I am being interviewed for a new contract postion, 
interviewers ask for concrete examples this very second of which 
websites I've worked on recently through my sub-contracting work.

They say eg: Anyone can say they worked for ExampleCorp  
GenericITagency, we want specific URL's of your work to see what you can do

So far I've stonewalled and said they're free to call ExampleCorp  
GenericITagency to confirm I've done work for them, but Im not sure im 
legally allowed to reveal specific URL's. They respond saying other 
interviewees are willing to reveal details so I should too, and I end up 
disadvantaged :-(

Ironically I wouldnt be surprised if these same companies looking for 
contractors make their staff sign NDA's prohibiting them from mentioning 
what they have done to a new employer!

Since this is Possibly OT, I'd appreciate any responses (with emphasis 
on Australian experience) to be sent directly to my email address and 
therefore not offend the moderators

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[WSG] Sane CSS Sizes by Owen Briggs

2005-04-29 Thread Neerav
Does the main idea in the article Sane CSS Sizes by Owen Briggs:
Anyhow, I played about and found you can make a nice ems stylesheet 
with P text at 1.0 em, and then downsize the whole thing by selecting 
size in BODY with %, like 76%. It's simple, easy to change, and works 
for everything. Score 1 for late nights and coffee. Enjoy.

quoted from 
http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/index.html still 
work across all the main browsers considering it was written 2 years ago?

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[WSG] Adjunct to Richard Czeiger's Sydney WSG presentation

2005-04-28 Thread Neerav
A good adjunct to Richard Czeiger's Sydney WSG presentation a few hours 
ago (which was quite good) is the article :

Ten good practices for writing JavaScript in 2005
http://www.bobbyvandersluis.com/articles/goodpractices.php
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Re: [WSG] Multimedia Victoria (Australia) website

2005-04-28 Thread Neerav
The root of the problem Luke is they're using a pretty poor CMS eg: the 
first few lines of each page are:

!-- 
This line (a comment) is used to throw IE into quirks mode which allows the komodo admin menu to float.
This comment MUST reside above the document type declaration!
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!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd;
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|  Komodo CMS Pty Ltd 2002. |
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|  Developed By:  Komodo CMS Pty Ltd |
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|   Address:  113 Ferrars Street |
| Southbank  |
| Victoria 3006  |
| Australia  |
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| Telephone:  +61 3 9696 9597|
| Facsimile:  +61 3 9690 0092|
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| Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
|   WWW:  http://www.komodocms.com   |
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Luke Moulton wrote:
It's been a while since I've posted to the group, but I just couldn't
help voicing my disappointment in regards to the new Multimedia Victoria
(Australia) website http://www.mmv.vic.gov.au/
I can't believe a State Government site dedicated to the advancement of
the ICT industry in Victoria could be so inaccessible.
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Re: [WSG] Web calendar

2005-04-26 Thread Neerav
Most blogs that use wordpress before 1.5 have a pretty good web 
standards calender  in the navbar by default. eg: 
http://www.accessibility1st.com.au/

this would be a good place to start
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Erwin Heiser wrote:
Hi all, 

I'm currently working on a standards-based redesign of a local schools
website and I would like to add some kind of calendar to it.
Their current one is just a massive (ugly) table, coded in Frontpage
tag-soup (116kb of code no less!):
http://schoolweb.gemeenschapsonderwijs.be/kh/antwerpen/dans/jaarplan.htm
What I'm looking for is a web calendar that supports CSS and outputs
clean/valid (X)HTML, is easy to use and to update. PHP/MySQL allowed but it
might even be better if it can run without any client-side scripting.
Oh yeah and I have to be able to see the whole year, not just one month...
Any and all suggestions welcome ;-)
Thanks,
Erwin Heiser
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Re: [WSG] new mycareer.com.au design

2005-04-26 Thread Neerav
Peter
Just curious to know what the many lines of CDATA code achieve and the 
reason for putting them inline?

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Peter Ottery wrote:
very proud to say the new mycareer site launched today:
http://mycareer.com.au/
its the next major site from the Fairfax Digital network to take on css 
layout as part of a redesign. the site gets hundreds of thousands of 
visitors a month and is one of australias largest job ad websites.

check it out, be good to hear any feedback/ideas for further improvement. as 
always with a large scale commercial project there are comprimises made in 
some areas, but for the most part i'm pretty darn happy with the design.

css was a huge part of the redesign (which also overhauled some of the 
information architecture).
all the developers were keen on the benefits and the business people love 
the agility of the design and the speed.

cheers,
pete ottery
ps: i'm no longer at fairfax digital but designing the site was the last 
major project i did before leaving.
rest assured i'll pass on any feedback to them :)
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Re: [WSG] Window Pop-ups

2005-04-21 Thread Neerav
While they should be avoided at all costs, if you really really have to 
use popups the best way to do it according to Joe Clark is to add an alt 
and/or title to the link image or text to warn in advance that larger 
image opens in new window or this link to an external site will open 
in a new window etc

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Hello!
I am writing website develoment guidelines that will be distributed to 
vendors for conforming to the web standards. I haven't been able to get 
more information on the implementation of pop-ups and how it will be read 
by assistive technologies. Does anyone know more about this? We are 
building a complex application that will require pop-ups to appear. 
Currently, we are alerting the user that the link will open in a new 
window. Is this suffiecient to address the w3c guidlines?

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[WSG] Web Essentials 2005 ?

2005-04-20 Thread Neerav
This time last year you couldnt pop your head out the door without John 
Allsopp trying to sell you tickets to Web Essentials 2004 :-)

So far in 2005 I havent heard anything about tickets for Web Essentials 
2005 being sold but according to http://molly.com/events.php its already 
being planned, the dates are clear and some of the people attending are 
certain as well?

The following proof is an excerpt from Molly E. Holzschlag's events diary
WE05 - Web Essentials 2005
Sydney, Australia - September 29 - 30
Sessions TBA
Speakers will include Eric Meyer, Tantek Çelik, and others [including the 
aforementioned Molly]
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[WSG] netscape devedge temporary mirror

2005-04-20 Thread Neerav
FYI for people who used to use the now defunct Netscape DevEdge site, 
mozilla.org is now in charge of the content and has temporarily mirrored 
it at http://devedge-temp.mozilla.org/index_en.html while figuring how 
to best organise it

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[WSG] FYI New WSG jobs section

2005-04-19 Thread Neerav
Moderators
I take it that the appearance of 
http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/jobs.cfm means that list members 
can post webstandards postions they know about there?

Would this extend to the reverse eg: allowing people who are available 
for contracts/jobs to list themselves?

Or do people looking for work have to stick to more subtle methods like 
Lea de Groot's signature

Lea
~ looking for a permanent position in Brisbane.  Got anything?
which prompted me to do the same thing :-)
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[WSG] stopping float covering other content when container too small

2005-04-19 Thread Neerav
Hi
Any ideas how to stop a floated google ad from covering content when the 
container div its in has too short a height ?

eg: the 2nd post at http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ whose summary is 
shorter than the height of the ad, causing the ad to cover part of the 
older post below

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Re: [WSG] Skip Navigation Visibility - Site Map Link

2005-04-16 Thread Neerav
Mike
Did he make any suggestions asto the features a well designed site map 
should have?

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Mike Pepper wrote:
I've mentioned this before, but at an awards bash I attended the (blind)
compere mentioned above and beyond all considerations of accessibility is
the inclusion of a link to the site map page. Many AT (assistive technology)
users have a devil of a job deciphering site content relevance, especially
when arriving new to a site from a search engine. A (well designed) site map
helps enormously.
Cheers,
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Re: [WSG] what is quirks mode?

2005-04-16 Thread Neerav
Google * cough *
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=quirks+mode
leads to results like: http://www.quirksmode.org/css/quirksmode.html
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Where can i learn more about quirks mode?
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[WSG] Fixed pixel fontsize - resizable font size

2005-04-14 Thread Neerav
Hi all
Im doing a bit of pro bono work at the moment and not having ever used 
fixed font sizes, was wondering if there are any percentage or em 
equivalents or formulas to convert from:

FONT-SIZE: 11px;
FONT-SIZE: 22px;
FONT-SIZE: 10px;
FONT-SIZE: 14px;
FONT-SIZE: 16px;
etc
to more accessible font size units
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Re: [WSG] Fixed pixel fontsize - resizable font size

2005-04-14 Thread Neerav
Alex and kemie
I tip my hat to you, your advice worked perfectly :-)
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Alex James wrote:
Neerav wrote:
was wondering if there are any percentage or em 
equivalents or formulas to convert from:
FONT-SIZE: 11px, 22px, 10px, 14px and 16px.

To go from pixels to em's, simply divide by 16.
HTH
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Re: [WSG] Actual Page Dimensions

2005-04-13 Thread Neerav
http://www.chunkysoup.net/advanced/bugged/
http://www.evolt.org/article/Design_to_realistic_window_sizes/22/3359/
http://tobyinkster.co.uk/browser-sizes
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Chris Kennon wrote:
Hi,
Is there an article of chart outlining subtractions from design 
dimensions for browser chrome and optional bars. My current design is 
800x600. Intuition begs some appearance of a horizontal and/or vertical 
scroll bar on some UA.  I'm aware these will appear in Browser Cam, but 
was hoping for a preventative approach.  I've goggled, perhaps asking 
the wrong question. Would some knowledgeable colleague assist?

CK
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[WSG] [THREAD CLOSED] Last call for Bill Bryson's Down under bookray

2005-04-11 Thread Neerav
embarrassedapologies, obviously the wrong mailing list/embarrassed
slinks away..
Lea de Groot wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:45:40 +1000, Neerav wrote:
Im about to release Bill Bryson's book Down Under to Kirst040 at 
tomorrow's Sydney meetup, if anyone wants to be added to the ray 
before it leaves please email/PM me

Ummm... if you were to say that in English, how would it sound?
;)
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Re: [WSG] Handheld CSS example

2005-04-11 Thread Neerav
http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=HandheldStylesheets
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg@webstandardsgroup.org/msg05976.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg@webstandardsgroup.org/msg08279.html
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pocket/
http://my.opera.com/community/dev/device/css-media/
That'll keep you busy :-)
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Mark Gillingham wrote:
I have a site with a horizontal list-based menu before and a vertical 
list-based menu after the main content. CSS is used to place the second 
list in a left navbar. For my handheld, I have just let the content flow 
as is. Can I do better? For instance, can I make the first list look 
horizontal on most handhelds?

If you know of best-practice handheld CSS examples, please point me to 
them. Thanks.
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Re: [WSG] I18n - Traditional Simplified Chinese in an English web site

2005-04-11 Thread Neerav
Lachlan
If using windows make sure you've gone to: Control Panel -Regional 
Options, and made sure the boxes for Traditional Chinese  Simplified 
Chinese are ticked

After all the people reading your site in those languages will have 
Traditional Chinese  Simplified Chinese fonts installed, you cant 
see what they see without doing the same thing

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Lachlan Hardy wrote:
Juergen Auer wrote:
  try to save the html-file as UTF-8 and use the chinese letters
  directly. And add
 
  meta http-equiv=content-type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
 
  Your solution can't work if the page is saved as Ascii / 256 Bit.
Sorry, should have mentioned that. Yes, the page is UTF-8 (by both 
server settings and meta element). That still doesn't help me. The 
Chinese characters only display correctly in IE when I specify the 
correct language

Dejan Kozina wrote:
  a href=# lang=en hreflang=zh-Hans title=Most pages...
  img src=# lang=zh-Hans alt=... title=...
  /a
 
  with the image saying something like Chinese version.
Yep, the image does indicate the version. Good idea on the HREFLANG. 
Haven't used that previously, I'll have to investigate

  Now, if your design allows for a little padding of the a you'd have
  the English title shortly displayed before the mouse hovers on the
  image, so those without a proper font can roll back their mouse to the
  link when their browser fails to display the alt text.
Unfortunately, these links are in a small sidebar. Not a lot of room for 
spare padding - okay, none. I had to shrink the images a tad to get them 
in there in the first place. Cool idea though, I might have to see if I 
can work it in somehow if I can't get a better solution

Thanks for your suggestions, guys. Anyone else want to share?
Cheers,
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Re: [WSG] Someone who *wants* the peekaboo bug

2005-04-11 Thread Neerav
How about trying the same resolution so the rendering is the same?
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John Horner wrote:
A colleague is developing a table-free design, and has run up against 
the peekaboo bug in IE6. (If you don't know it, it's basically that 
text disappears in certain circumstances, see 
http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/peekaboo.html).

His problem is not diagnosing the bug or even fixing it, it's that it's 
not happening on *his* computer, so he has to keep asking for help from 
someone whose setup does have the bug.

I can verify that two Windows 2000 computers are involved, with exactly 
the same version of IE6, down to the tenth decimal place, and one always 
displays this bug and one never displays this bug.

Any ideas? Could it be CRT versus LCD monitors? The fact that one person 
is logged in as administrator and the other as a lowly user? Melbourne 
vs Sydney? Zodiac signs? We're scratching our heads...


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[WSG] Taming Your Multiple IE Standalones

2005-04-10 Thread Neerav
Multiple versions of Explorer for Windows on a single computer have 
revolutionized CSS bug testing for websites, but sadly the different IE 
browser windows appear identical to the eye, potentially leading to 
confusion and testing mistakes.

Also, Microsofts proprietary Conditional Comments dont operate 
properly on these standalones, making advanced usage of CCs a guessing 
game.

These problems have now been resolved in a positioniseverything article 
I've linked to at 
http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/2005/04/07/taming-your-multiple-ie-standalones/

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[WSG] Opinions about contact form please

2005-04-06 Thread Neerav
Any opinions about my contact form at 
http://www.bhatt.id.au/contactus.php are appreciated

AFAIK it displays fine in all browsers and even with css off
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Re: [WSG] Site review

2005-04-06 Thread Neerav
Looks nice, wish I could afford it :-)
The only 2 small problems I see are caused by the standard text size 
being too small, so I choose medium size text (in Firefox 1.0 Win 2000 
1024x768) and:

1. Making your African Dreams a Reality! is overlapped by Lodges  
Hotels

2. Terms  Conditions and Office Information overlap each other
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Jacobus van Niekerk wrote:
Hi all,
We have recently launched http://www.getawayafrica.com/, your comments are
welcome. But would like to know more about if you have any problems with the
site.
Just a note,  the client is still inputting content.
Kind Regards
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Re: [WSG] Opinions about contact form please

2005-04-06 Thread Neerav
Thanks Scott
Its probably a symptom of the Sample Site and Sample Article being 
randomly selected from a number of different choices, each of which have 
different character lengths!

Therefore I've increased the footers top padding a bit, and reduced the 
length of some of the longer Sample Site and Sample Article to make 
the display error much less likely to occur

Neerav
Scott Swabey (Lafinboy Productions) wrote:
On Firefox 1.0.2, WinXP, 1024x768 the sample article divs push the footer
div down at normal font size. 2 sizes down and alignment is good but
readability is gone.
Regards 


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Any opinions about my contact form at 
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Re: [WSG] Opinions about contact form please

2005-04-06 Thread Neerav
thanks for your comments Cade
I've fixed the spacing and capitalisation and tried to make the colour 
scheme as you suggested. what do you think now?

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Cade Whitbourn wrote:
There's a couple of spelling and punctuation mistakes -
Phonenumber - needs a space between words   
Where you Heard - lowercase 'H'
Design-wise, I think it's counterintuitive to make the form input fields
stand out more than the form labels. I find the blue background quite bright
and in-my-face. A lighter background color with bolder form labels would
work better imho.
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AFAIK it displays fine in all browsers and even with css off
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Re: [WSG] Really strange results

2005-04-05 Thread Neerav
John
People use that method to try and stop people copying source code. 
Unfortunately there really is no reliable way of doing so because:

1. the page is usually cached by the browser and you can get the source 
code from there

2. browsers can be set to disable javascript to get around these kinds 
of right-click disabling scripts

Basically, since HTML is interpreted by user agents (browsers etc) and 
not compiled, its next to impossible to stop people copying content/code

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John Horner wrote:
the page:  http://www.deafvision.net/projects/btw/revised/indexx.html.

Can I raise a quick issue -- I noticed when I went to that page and 
right-clicked on it... a JavaScript alert came up to say that the page 
was copyright, and, as far as I could tell, stopped me from doing view 
source via the context menu -- what's the reason for that?

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[WSG] Information Architecture and relevence to Web Standards Development

2005-03-31 Thread Neerav
A few days I came across the term Information Architecture in the 
context of a web development position listed on a recruitment companys 
website advertising for:

An Information architect with :
Strong HTML/DHTML/XHTML/CSS/Javascript skills,
Dreamweaver/MX knowledge 
an understanding of W3C Accessibility Standard
I had no idea what this meant so I thought id do a little research, the 
results of which are published at: 
http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/2005/03/31/demystifying-the-term-information-architecture/

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[WSG] Creating CSS/XHTML layouts from Use Cases ?

2005-03-30 Thread Neerav
I was recently asked by a recruiter:
Do you have experience with creating CSS/XHTML layouts from Use Cases?
I havent heard of any company who does use this method so if anyone on 
the list does use it, I'd appreciate knowing how it is applied and what 
benefits there are

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Re: [WSG] CSS in HTML Emails

2005-03-28 Thread Neerav
Richard
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/04/12/index4a.html and 
http://www.htmldog.com/ptg/archives/55.php are useful articles about 
mobile phone browsers

a useful post to the WSG from a while back by Kenneth Feldman is quoted 
below:

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I use the following technique, which works in every e-mail client that I
have tried. Have I tested every single one of them? No, of course not. But
Hotmail and Gmail I have tried and this technique works well for those two
as well as most e-mail clients.
The trick is to use NO part of the webpage above and including the BODY tag.
Hotmail and other web-based readers strip everything above the BODY tag, so
you lose all of that.
Take a look at my below example. (It's a bit wide in a browser, but in an
e-mail client window it's fine. Just narrow your browser window a bit.) Look
at the source to see the Trick:
http://www.nlgjany.org/e_mail_announce/
The trick is to put the whole page in 2 Wrapper elements, and then put the
CSS styles just inside the first Wrapper. No HTML tag. No BODY tag.
NOTE 1: Hotmail and Gmail both don't display perfectly; Hotmail doesn't get
floats correct sometimes, and Gmail doesn't display images by default - you
have to turn that on in each mail.
NOTE 2: That said, this mail technique will degrade nicely (as all XHTML/CSS
should) in mail clients that are set to Not Display Complex HTML, or Not
Display Images, or Not Allow Internet Access When Displaying Complex HTML.
At worst, the reader should display simple HTML, showing Headers, Paragraphs
and Lists, etc. 

Hope this helps!

Regards,
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Re: [WSG] Rounded corner and IE Win help needed

2005-03-28 Thread Neerav
more details 
www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/properties/extensions/nsextensions.htm
http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/column70/

-moz-border-radius,
-moz-border-radius-topleft, -moz-border-radius-topright,
-moz-border-radius-bottomleft, -moz-border-radius-bottomright
Support: Netscape 7+, Mozilla 0.95+
Inherited: No
Allowed Values:
- Inherit: Use the value of this property from the parent element.
- [Length]: Specifies a length and unit of the border/corner radius.
- [Percentage]: Specifies a percentage. Not sure of what the percentage 
relates to.

Purpose:
This property controls the curve radius of borders at the corners, 
allowing corners to be rounded (otherwise, borders are usually squared 
off.) The '-moz-border-radius' property is a shorthand method for 
controlling this effect for each corner. If one value is specified, it 
applies to all corners. If only two values exist, the first applies to 
the top-left and bottom-right, while the second value applies to the 
top-right and bottom-left. If all four values are specified, they 
control, in order: [top-left] [top-right] [bottom-right] [bottom-left]

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Sigurd Magnusson wrote:
Alternatively, fast forward to the the future, and use 
border-bottom-right-radius :P

http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/WD-css3-background-20050216/#the-border-radius
Someone here mentioned that this is already implemented in FireFox with 
a different  name.
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Re: [WSG] Who's putting javascript in my code?

2005-03-23 Thread Neerav
These 2 links will explain
http://forums.devshed.com/archive/t-56231/postamble-lt
http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/9227.htm
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Carol Doersom wrote:
This line of js appears in the head of my site's pages:
script language='javascript' 
src='http://127.0.0.1:1027/js.cgi?pcar=28253'/script

and this following the /html:
script language='javascript'postamble();/script
I didn't put them there. They're generating 4 warnings in Tidy and 
keeping my html from validating. They're also appearing in the source of 
every web page I look at--even at this list's site--though they don't 
always result in exactly the same warnings.

What I did put in my html is: script type=text/javascript 
src=script.js/script. And I have all my javascript in that file.

Where are those other 2 lines coming from...and what do they do?
tia,
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[WSG] Accessible HTML Tables article

2005-03-23 Thread Neerav
I've just written an article about Accessible HTML Tables and would 
appreciate any comments/suggestions for changes:

excerpt from http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/2005/03/24/accessible-html-tables/
table elements are often maligned by the web standards savvy developer 
who equates them to the bad old days of table based layout.

This has the unintended consequence that such a developer won't know how 
to best use a table for its proper purpose of displaying data. This 
article aims to fix this problem by going through the elements and 
attributes which can help make a data table more accessible, render 
faster, and make it easier to interpret.

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Re: [WSG] Around We Go

2005-02-18 Thread Neerav
Why not investigate -moz-border-radius eg:
  -moz-border-radius-topleft: 15px;
  -moz-border-radius-topright: 15px;
  -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 15px;
  -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 15px;
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Chris Kennon wrote:
This example of rounded corners 
(http://kalsey.com/2003/07/rounded_corners_in_css/), is elegant and 
efficient, but 2 years old. I've googled til blurry eyed, but have 
only found contemporary examples with 8 nested divs and other nightmares.

Would someone guide me to a standards based solution without all the gif 
wrapping?


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Re: [WSG] web standards training course/events in Sydney?

2005-02-13 Thread Neerav
What about http://2005.sxsw.com/interactive/ ?
suggestive coughits 1/2 the price WE04 was! /suggestive cough
Established in 1994, the SXSW Interactive Festival consists of four 
days of panel programming, a Trade Show  Exhibition, plus a full 
schedule of exciting evening activities. This is a unique event where 
top-notch developers, cutting-edge designers and out-of-the-box 
thinkers share their inspirations about the future of the web.

While we cover the how of new technology, SXSW Interactive pays 
particular attention to discussing the larger questions such as why did 
this happen and what are the long-term implications of this innovation.

Neerav
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Leslie Riggs wrote:
I'm wishing we could have something like that in my neck of the woods...
Leslie in NE Wisconsin, midwestern USA
Web Essentials will definitely be on again. Russ, Peter Maxine and I
are working hard to put together an even better event this year.
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Re: [WSG] Site Check before lauch

2005-02-02 Thread Neerav
Dennis
The images below the Contact Us link need either:
1. border=0 added to each link
or
2. add border: 0; to the css for the imageright class
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Dennis Murphy Anderson wrote:
My client has given me a green light to launch his redesigned site, but I'd
appreciate a check from folks on different browsers and platforms.
CSS and XHTML validate ... my first valid 'tableless' site ... so be kind.
http://www.newdepartures.com/newdepart/index.html
Thanks!
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Re: [WSG] Unicode-bidi and direction

2005-02-01 Thread Neerav
Some searching revealed these:
http://www.htmlref.com/reference/appb/css_unicode-bidi.htm states 
support is:

CSS2
IE 5, 5.5, 6
Nav 6, 7
No Opera support
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/properties/intl/unibidi.htm
http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/properties/intl/direction.htm
http://www.htmldog.com/reference/cssproperties/unicode-bidi/
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Maxine Sherrin wrote:
Just wondering: does anyone here have any experience with these two 
properties?

I've got a handle from the specs how you actually use them, but, are 
they in fact supported in any browsers such as Opera, Firefox or Safari 
(or any others of course, but I'm kind of assuming that with IE the 
answer is no.

Thx
Maxine
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[WSG] Leading accessibility/usability companies in Sydney/NSW?

2005-02-01 Thread Neerav
Hi
I'd appreciate it if anyone on the list who has worked with leading 
accessibility/usability companies in Sydney/NSW could email me contact 
details for these companies off-list

thanks
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[WSG] NZ Photo gallery test please

2005-01-26 Thread Neerav
Hi
could a few people have a quick look at my newly constructed New Zealand 
photo gallery to make sure there aren't any obvious display errors that 
would scare off viewers/potential customers?

http://www.bhatt.id.au/photos/NewZealand/
I've already checked it with the W3C validators, Firefox 1.0, IE6 SP1, 
IE 5.5 and Opera 7.52

FYI It's a heavily hacked version of http://singapore.sourceforge.net/
thanks
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Re: [WSG] browser snapshot services?

2005-01-26 Thread Neerav
thats true Jason
I've always wondered how people who use Browsercam can see errors which 
are below the browsercam shot (ie: scrolling downwards) and test 
interactive elements like flyout menus

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Jason Foss wrote:
I might be wandering off-topic here - but while browsercam is good,
it's costing us $55 to $60 per month (depending on exchange rates).
Linux is free, and now Mac Minis can be had for $800. In just over 12
months it's paid for itself. (And I have an excuse to get a new toy)
Plus the issue with just using a screenshot service is you can't text
behaviours like flyout menus and the like. It might *look* okay, but
you can't see how it *works*...
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:14:32 -0500, Andrew famiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
I use Browsercam, it works really good
http://browsercam.com/
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 08:53:30 -0800, Chris W. Parker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justin Thorp mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   on Tuesday, January 25, 2005 7:56 AM said:

In my office we are currently using a browser snapshot service to
take a look at what a web site in a variety of older browsers and
computer configurations.  It is very convenient because in about 5
minutes I can get a good feel for what a web site looks like in just
about every configuration of browser.
Which one is it that you are currently using?
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[WSG] thanks to whoever winged me :-)

2005-01-25 Thread Neerav
Im guessing it must have been one of the aussie bookcrossers so thanks 
to whoever winged me yesterday :-)

Here are some sydney stats while I have access to them:
I think its interesting that the average age of the top 50 sydney 
bookcrossers is 34.7, and for the top 50 Aussies its 37.8

Sorted by Books
NameAge Books   Released
servalan5   863 180 
BookFrog32  535 398 
Pixette 40  452 190 
Littlemave  39  385 421 
Funkybamboozle  27  360 76  
jackiea 60  338 43  
jebz25  330 155 
markmcg 46  296 312 
fushmush27  296 140 
Girltiger   99  277 253 
awaywithfairies 275 306 
kirst04029  268 45  
goodthinkingmax 38  266 27  
charmedwitch23  26  221 90  
augustusgloop   188 95  
tqd 35  186 156 
Fleebo  32  174 85  
M-girl  41  160 129 
catsalive   38  147 100 
Morganmouse 37  126 2   
neerav  22  122 59  
Sorted by Releases
NameAge Books   Released
Littlemave  39  385 421 
BookFrog32  535 398 
markmcg 46  296 312 
awaywithfairies 275 306 
Girltiger   99  277 253 
Pixette 40  452 190 
servalan5   863 180 
tqd 35  186 156 
jebz25  330 155 
fushmush27  296 140 
M-girl  41  160 129 
catsalive   38  147 100 
augustusgloop   188 95  
charmedwitch23  26  221 90  
Fleebo  32  174 85  
Funkybamboozle  27  360 76  
neerav  22  122 59  
kirst04029  268 45  
jackiea 60  338 43  
goodthinkingmax 38  266 27  
Morganmouse 37  126 2   
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Re: [WSG] thanks to whoever winged me :-)

2005-01-25 Thread Neerav
sorry, obviously posted to the wrong list!
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Neerav wrote:
Im guessing it must have been one of the aussie bookcrossers so thanks 
to whoever winged me yesterday :-)
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[WSG] NZ Photo gallery test please

2005-01-25 Thread Neerav
Hi could a few people have a quick look at my newly constructed New 
Zealand photo gallery to make sure there aren't any obvious display errors?

I've already checked it with the W3C validators, Firefox 1.0, IE6 SP1, 
IE 5.5 and Opera 7.52

FYI It's a heavily hacked version of http://singapore.sourceforge.net/
thanks
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[WSG] ECMAScript collapsible Menu System

2005-01-23 Thread Neerav
There has been lots written about separating content from presentation,
 and most developers see the benefit of this approach (cleaner, leaner 
markup; faster download speeds; easier maintainability, etc). There is 
also a fair amount written about separating behaviour from both content 
and presentation, but it tends to be practiced less than separation of 
content from presentation. HTML (or even XHTML) should be used for content
, CSS for presentation, and ECMAScript for behaviour.

All the time JavaScript was a Netscape proprietary technology, its use 
could not be endorsed by the W3C. In the middle of 1998, the European 
Computer Manufacturers Association (ECMA) created a public domain 
specification based on JavaScript, but using a standardised Document 
Object Model. The third edition of the ECMAScript Language Specification 
was published in December 1999; Standard ECMA-262.

To illustrate using a completely separate behavioural layer, I'll 
demonstrate a collapsible menu system. All of the examples are HTML, 
but work equally well as XHTML, even when served with the correct MIME type. 
read on at http://juicystudio.com/ecmascriptmenu.asp
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Re: [WSG] ECMAScript collapsible Menu System

2005-01-23 Thread Neerav
David
Perhaps you misunderstood, I just read this article and posted an 
excerpt + link. The congrats and/or brickbats should go to Gez Lemon of 
juicystudio.com :-)

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David R wrote:
Neerav wrote:
read on at http://juicystudio.com/ecmascriptmenu.asp
Looking good. However just being the nit-pick I am, might I suggest you 
enclose the list headers in h2 tags?

...And I'm not enirely sure about the click opens, another closes the 
same system, compared to open another and the previous one closes

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Re: [WSG] CSS Roundbox

2005-01-10 Thread Neerav
Have you tried http://www.albin.net/CSS/roundedCorners/ ?
Not sure if it can do inner shadows, but its worth trying
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Lori Leach wrote:
I have a design that am coding, and I need to make a css rounded corner
box with shadows INSIDE:
The box needs to look like:
http://www.zenfulcreations.com/client-files/do/lit/shadow.gif
I have tried about ten different css rounded box options to get it to work,
and it is just NOT working!
It needs to be fluid width, and exactly as it appears in the graphic.
Has anyone ever seen a rounded corner box with INNER shadow anywhere online
so that I may take a gander at how they did it??
Thanks for any help!
Lori Leach
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Re: [WSG] Images in Nav, Splash Screens.

2004-11-30 Thread Neerav
Use Andy King's article at 
http://www.websiteoptimization.com/speed/tweak/splash/ he definitely 
isnt old school

In the end however, they may ignore you. Thats their choice. As long as 
you've stated your objections in documentation they can't blame you 
later when the problems you predict appear

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Matt wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I am setting up a sports website for a client, where all of the
content is in Article format which rotates regularly - essentially a
news type site. I am determined to build the site in valid XHTML/CSS.
I am debating with their designers about 2 things:
1. They want to use a full page graphic Splash Screen, which displays
the brand in all its glory before the user can enter the site.
2. They want to use images in the Navigation bar to give tight control
over the fonts, instead of text.
I do not want to use a splash screen, because it will just get in the
way, and could turn viewers away. I do not want to use images in the
navigation, not only for usability / accessibility  / SEO reasons, but
because the site is dynamic and I want the Nav to be dynamically
driven.
I just wondered if any of you know of any websites which show solid
convincing arguments against these things, so that I can prove my
point. At this stage the accessibility argument isn't cutting it
(enough)!...
I can show them some stuff from Jacob Nielsen, but I found that they
essentially scoff at his comments claiming that he is too 'old
school'...
Also, if anyone can assist with my message from yesterday (Nov 30)
subject Help with a layout I'd be very grateful : )
Thanks in advance, Matt
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Re: [WSG] How exactly does IE fall short and where do I find standards-compatibility charts?

2004-11-29 Thread Neerav
BTW to add to Paul, I've found that Commonwealth Bank, ING Direct, and 
Members Equity's netbank services all work fine in Firefox

Neerav
Paul Ross wrote:
That was the case but I use Firefox (and Safari) with no problems with
my bank here in Australia (Westpac)
Regards PAUL ROSS
SkyRocket Design Co http://www.skyrocket.com.au
Just to add on, I'd been using Firefox since 6 months ago and it's my
primary browser for everything except internet banking operations
('cos the banking sites are typically tailored for IE
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Re: [WSG] Fangs Screen Reader Emulator

2004-11-23 Thread Neerav
thanks! its an interesting bit of software, though still in testing and 
not fully functional yet

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Joseph Lindsay wrote:
I've just a cool firefox extension: Fangs: The Firefox Screen Reader
Emulator at standards-schmandards. The developer has released it so
the they can get feedback and suggestions.
http://www.standards-schmandards.com/index.php?2004/11/22/8-fangs-release-05
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Re: [WSG] Sticky Drop Downs

2004-11-14 Thread Neerav
Paul
What you need is http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/
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Paul Farrell wrote:
Hello,
I was wondering if someone could inform me or point me to a resource on how
to make a navigation dropdown/popout menu 'sticky' as a user progress
deeper. (Parent menu items stay in hover state).
The particular menu that I am working on is here:
http://www.paulfarrell.com.au/dev/index.php
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
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[WSG] -moz-border-radius

2004-11-14 Thread Neerav
Lindsay
I note that you're using the proprietary -moz-border-radius to achieve a 
rounded look just like I decided to a month ago at www.bhatt.id.au after 
evaluating the various rounded corner methods and finding them to be a 
pain to implement

I contend that while it does make the stylesheet invalid, it shouldnt 
cause parsing errors because its the last few lines of my CSS file, its 
use is harmless and is OK for personal sites.

more details 
www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/properties/extensions/nsextensions.htm
http://www.webreference.com/dhtml/column70/

-moz-border-radius,
-moz-border-radius-topleft, -moz-border-radius-topright,
-moz-border-radius-bottomleft, -moz-border-radius-bottomright
Support: Netscape 7+, Mozilla 0.95+
Inherited: No
Allowed Values:
- Inherit: Use the value of this property from the parent element.
- [Length]: Specifies a length and unit of the border/corner radius.
- [Percentage]: Specifies a percentage. Not sure of what the percentage 
relates to.

Purpose:
This property controls the curve radius of borders at the corners, 
allowing corners to be rounded (otherwise, borders are usually squared 
off.) The '-moz-border-radius' property is a shorthand method for 
controlling this effect for each corner. If one value is specified, it 
applies to all corners. If only two values exist, the first applies to 
the top-left and bottom-right, while the second value applies to the 
top-right and bottom-left. If all four values are specified, they 
control, in order: [top-left] [top-right] [bottom-right] [bottom-left]

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Lindsay Evans wrote:
In order to stop Russ from hassling me about it every time I see him,
I've thrown together a small demo/explanation of the latest  greatest
image replacement method (well, 'fancy heading method', really):
http://lindsayevans.com/experiments/lindsaymethod_2/
I'm sure I'm not the first to use it, but I can't find much mention of
it anywhere else, so I might as well get my name on it before Doug
Bowman or someone does :p
Feel free to point out all the flaws, spelling mistakes, ethically
questionable uses of CSS, etc.
Oh, and I launched my new design over the weekend:
http://lindsayevans.com/
Yes, I am well aware of all of the validation errors, each weighs
heavily upon my soul, but I wanted to get it live before I got bored
with it  started redesigning yet again.
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Re: [WSG] Another body tag question ...

2004-11-13 Thread Neerav
direction:ltr = direction of text is left - right as opposed to some 
langauges which are right to left

http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_text_direction.asp
http://www.topxml.com/css/css_property_direction.asp
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Michael Kear wrote:
Another body style question following from Felix's rant ...
I looked at what Yahoo do in their style,  (http://www.yahoo.com) and they
have the following as their body style: 

body{font:84%/1.2em arial,sans-serif;direction:ltr}
What's the point of setting the body font at 84% of 1.2em?  (which is what I
assume is what's happening).  That's 100.8% if my arithmetic is correct, so
is there any point to this instead of setting it to 100%/1.0em? 

What does the 'direction:ltr' part do?
Cheers
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Re: [WSG] Site Check please

2004-11-10 Thread Neerav
sure but the site is displaying the time in major cities round the 
world, not local time for the user

eg: on my contact form http://www.bhatt.id.au/contactus.php the PHP code 
has daylight savings logic in it,

This is because I am in NSW (with daylight savings Nov-Mar), and my 
server is in Queensland (with no daylight savings Nov-Mar), and so I 
have to add a 1 hour offet to the server time between Nov-Mar to ensure 
it displays the correct time in Sydney

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Rick Faaberg wrote:
On 11/10/04 1:44 AM Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out:

The time for Sydney is also one hour off, it says 07:40 PM when it
should be 08:40PM
looks like you need to add some backend logic to adjust dates for
daylight savings

PHP always uses server time AFAIK and there's no way to adjust for time
zones since PHP cannot determine what time zone a client is in, at least in
the research I did a couple of years ago.
Javascript can use the client computer's clock time, but PHP cannot as it's
a server-side language.
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Re: [WSG] Circle menu

2004-10-23 Thread Neerav
http://www.albin.net/CSS/roundedCorners/ could help
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Jorge Laranjo wrote:
Ok! but do you have an example in jpeg, gif or png format?
can you make such an example and send it to us ?
think about it!
On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:17:52 +0300, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
if I have example
I would steal their code :-)

On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:19:32 -0500, Leslie Riggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings
Any idea how to create a circle menu that fit the whole screen  with
html/css only ??

Do you have an example?  Perhaps a site that demonstrates what you're
trying to do?
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Re: [WSG] Semantic indentation

2004-10-23 Thread Neerav
If its a quote like your example, use blockquote/blockquote
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Joshua Street wrote:
What's the recommended practice with indentation?
You can use CSS to indent text with padding and whatever else, but
that's a pain if you have a sitewide CSS file, and the text to be
indented doesn't sit in any defining container
---
Example 1:
Just the place for a Snark! the Bellman cried,
As he landed his crew with care;
Supporting each man on the top of the tide
By a finger entwined in his hair.
may be marked up as a single paragraph (as it corresponds to a single
stanza of a poem -- in this case, the first stanza of Louis Carroll's
The Hunting of the Snark, just for a random example.) as follows:
pJust the place for a Snark! the Bellman cried,br /
As he landed his crew with care;br /
Supporting each man on the top of the tidebr /
By a finger entwined in his hair./p
---
As line break tags br / are self-closing elements, I don't *think*
it is possible to style with them (e.g. to indent the relevant lines) --
and, even if it were, it would be an ugly solution (assuming I'm even
thinking along the right lines, and that it would work at all):
---
Example 2:
pJust the place for a Snark! the Bellman cried,br class=indent /
As he landed his crew with care;br /
Supporting each man on the top of the tidebr class=indent /
By a finger entwined in his hair./p
---
Assuming the style would apply to the following, and not preceding,
line.  This example is untested, and would most likely not work at all. 
I'm just thinking out loud.

One potential solution (albeit a hideous and bloated one) is simply to
use repeated non-breaking space characters:
---
Example 3:
pJust the place for a Snark! the Bellman cried,br /
nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;As he landed his crew with care;br /
Supporting each man on the top of the tidebr /
nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;By a finger entwined in his hair./p
---
but that, of course, probably isn't the most desirable solution.
In terms of light markup (but of dubious semantic appropriateness), I've
seen definition lists employed to this end quite effectively:
---
Example 4:
dl
ddJust the place for a Snark! the Bellman cried,
dl
ddAs he landed his crew with care;/dd
/dl
/dd
ddSupporting each man on the top of the tide
dl
ddBy a finger entwined in his hair./dd
/dl
/dd
/dl
This renders without any problems in visual user agents without styling
required, and is apparently valid XHTML -- but it seems dubious to me. 
It appears structurally better, at least to me (my eyes follow the
markup flow more easily than the other examples above), but that doesn't
deal with the issue of semantics.

Is it okay to have untitled definitions?  Is it okay to use definition
lists like this at all?  Or, better still, does someone have another
solution which I've missed completely?
Thanks in advance,
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Re: [WSG] Suckerfish owning li ul tags

2004-10-21 Thread Neerav
Paul
Have a look at http://www.noltec.com.au/style.css, because all the son 
of suckerfish css is explicitly inside the #navmenu DIV the code has no 
effect on other lists within the same page

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Paul Ross wrote:
Hello folks,
I've used the infamous Suckerfish dropdown menu on a couple of sites
and have come across one glaring issue. The suckerfish CSS owns the ul
and li tags so you can't style them anywhere else on the page. Anyone
else had the same problem and what is the best solution? I haven't
tried son of suckerfish yet - maybe that has the same issue??
Regards - PAUL
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Re: [WSG] 256 colours or the whole enchilada?

2004-10-21 Thread Neerav
http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/htsearch?method=andformat=shortconfig=wsg_webstandardsgroup_orgrestrict=exclude=words=Web+safe+colours+-+still+relevent 
will answer our question

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Andreas Boehmer wrote:
Out of curiosity: what's your stand to the 216 web colours? Do you stick
with them or do you go the full 16 bits? 

I personally have stopped limiting myself a long time ago (unless
absolutely necessary), but keep coming across articles warning me from
doing so.
What's your thoughts?

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Re: [WSG] Foreign Translations

2004-10-20 Thread Neerav
Thats interesting, personally I like to be specific about the charset eg:
Chinese Traditional 
Taiwan, Hong Kong
meta http-equiv=Content-type content=text/html; charset=big5 /
Chinese Simplified
China mainland, Singapore and Malaysia  
meta http-equiv=Content-type content=text/html; charset=gb2312 /
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Francesco wrote:
The Absolute Minimum Every Software Developer Absolutely, Positively
Must Know About Unicode and Character Sets (No Excuses!) -
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html

I read this entire article, then changed the first meta tag on a test
page to be:
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=UTF-8 /
then I went to the Chinese translation of Joel's page and cut and pasted
some Chinese characters into my html page, saved it, and loaded it in IE
expecting to see Chinese side by side to my English text.  Nope.  Still
gibberish.  What did I do wrong?
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Re: [WSG] Foreign Translations

2004-10-19 Thread Neerav
Jason
I developed http://www.anigane.info/en/  http://www.anigane.info/zh-tw/ 
earlier this year, looking at them might help you

What I found worked best was translating the parts of the site which 
were repeated eg: navigation, contact info in the footer once and using 
them as a template for all pages to save retranslating the same info 
over and over for each page

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Jason Foss wrote:
Greetings!
I have a client who wants part of their website translated into a few other
languages, some of them Asian (Chinese  Korean are a couple). I have
obtained a couple of quotes from translation agencies to actually do the
translations, but does anyone have experience with actually implementing
this sort of thing in a website?
The easy way is to make an image out of the translation and pop that there -
but I don't want to do that for obvious reasons!!! I'm reading a bit about
character sets and encoding, but it's all a bit abstract at this point. Any
experiences or how-to references would be much appreciated!
Ta
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[WSG] Solving Common CSS problems

2004-10-18 Thread Neerav
The following Web Standards Articles are written by some of the best 
designers/coders in the business and are sure to help all web designers 
whether new to CSS/XHTML or quite experienced with problems commonly 
faced when using CSS:

(Links are at 
http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/2004/10/18/solving-common-css-problems/ to 
avoid cluttering the post with them)

1. Bullet-Proof Rounded Corners - great for those times when a designer 
hands you a design mockup with lots of rounded corners

2. Son of Suckerfish- the best dropdown/flyout CSS menu in existence
3. Sliding Doors - the best tabbed navigation lists
4. Writing Efficient CSS - using CSS isnt much good if you dont use it 
properly, so read this article which will help you write quality CSS

5. Two Column Layouts - A repository of 2 column CSS layouts that anyone 
can reuse

6. Three Column Layouts - A repository of 3 column CSS layouts that 
anyone can reuse

7. Max Design CSS - the world famous Listutorial, Floatutorial, and 
Selectutorial articles provide great advice for using Lists, Floats and 
CSS Selectors respectively

8. These articles will give you insight into problems like forcing DIVs 
to be all the same height, getting a footer to span underneath several 
columns and other height/width DIV difficulties

 1. Faux columns
 2. Any Column Longest
 3. 3 Columns with spanning footer
 4. min-height: fixed
9. Top tips to validate XHTML - of course theyre top XHTML tips, 
because I wrote them :-)

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Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

2004-10-14 Thread Neerav
Actually ive just remembered another possible method i've used before 
based on the premise that some columns will always be wider than others eg:

Price   Item
$5  Really Really Really Wide nested table
$2  Fixed width css styled div
So why not try setting a fixed column size for columns like 'Item' which 
are inheritantly wider than others, so the content wraps eg:

Price   Item
$5  Really Really Really
Wide nested table
$2  Fixed width css
styled div
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Mark Stanton wrote:
Thanks Neerav
I've got rid of everything I can and reduced the fonts as much as I
dare and its still 300px too wide for a landscape A4.
I've tried setting widths to auto, 100%,  px - nothing makes a difference.
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Re: [WSG] Form option selected is posible?

2004-10-14 Thread Neerav
Diego
You may find that using OPTGROUP eg:
optgroup label=Option name
is better still as: The optgroup tag groups options in a select box. It 
requires a label attribute, the value of which is displayed as a 
non-selectable pseudo-heading preceding that group in the drop-down list 
of visual browsers - http://www.htmldog.com/guides/htmladvanced/forms/

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Diego Diaz wrote:
Thanks Bert and Natalie :)
Bert wrote:
G'day
 

I try validate option selected but the validator says:
the name and VI delimiter can be omitted from an attribute 
specification only if SHORTTAG YES is specified
This form is posible to validate ?
  

http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/#h-4.5
XML does not support attribute minimization. Attribute-value pairs 
must be
written in full. Attribute names such as compact and checked cannot 
occur in
elements without their value being specified.


To fix the problem, change your option as follows:
option selected=selectedOption name/option
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Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

2004-10-14 Thread Neerav
I guess you've already set cellspacing, cellpadding, margin, padding etc 
to 0?

Considering each column has a minimum of 1 character+padding+margins I 
cant see any possibility of all 80 columns fitting on 1 A4 page

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Mark Stanton wrote:
Sorry again... every column is as skinny as it can get. I've got about
80 columns in the table :(
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Re: [WSG] CSS Validation query

2004-10-13 Thread Neerav
Jackie
http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=c2coff=1q=css+generic+font+familybtnG=Search 
lead to http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/css/font/font-family.html

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Jackie Reid wrote:
Hi everyone
im a bit confused here - trying to validate my css and i get this warning
Line : 0 font-family: You are encouraged to offer a generic family as a 
last alternative

what do they mean... i always do that and get the no errors or warnings 
reply...

whats going on.. ?
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Re: [WSG] Print styles for IE - Document too wide

2004-10-13 Thread Neerav
Mark
These ideas may already have been considered but here they are anyway...
1. set unneeded items on the page to display:none eg: menus taking up 
horizontal space

2. give the table an id and in the print css set that id as
width: 100%
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Mark Stanton wrote:
Hi All
I've got an odd case of an intranet page that generates a very wide
report (table). This page is generally printed rather than being
viewed on screen. The table is slowly growing width wise as more data
is added - it is now so wide that even when printed in landscape the
table gets cut off at 3/4 of the width.
What I am hoping for is some way to get the printer to break the page
up both vertically and horizontally - in the way the excel does, but
for some reason this doesn't happen, it just prints pages 1-5
vertically and whatever runs horizontally off the page just gets lost.
Does anyone have any ideas no how to fix this issue?
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[WSG] AEC site web standards compliant

2004-10-09 Thread Neerav
I was just monitoring early results from the Australian federal election 
at http://vtr.aec.gov.au/ and noticed this note at the bottom of screen:

This site is compliant with the web standards HTML 4.01, CSS2 and WCAG 
1.0 for increased accessibility.

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Re: [WSG] anchors within a page

2004-10-07 Thread Neerav
sure an id for body is valid. it can be used in several ways eg 
http://www.hicksdesign.co.uk/journal/271/highlighting-current-page-with-css

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john wrote:
An ID in the body?  Now, why didn't I think of that? :)  Is that valid? 
 I'll try it!  Thanks!

~john
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Patrick H. Lauke wrote:
Two ideas spring to mind:
- wrap the entire page content in a div with a specific ID, and change 
the link to point to that
body
div id=top

a href='#top
...
/div
/body

- taking it one step further (and admittedly a bit crazy, but seems to 
work fine in FF, IE and Opera from my really quick testing) add an ID 
to the body element itself and link to that
body id=top
...
a href=#top
,,,
/body

Patrick
john wrote:
Hello, group.
I want to put a top of page link in the footer of one of my sites, 
so instead of using the a name= tag, I a href= to one of my 
ID's. The problem is, I've used z-index in the CSS so that the 
header and nav stay put when scrolling...but it doesn't work in IE.  
The result is that, in IE, when you hit the to the top link, it 
doesn't take you all the to the top of the page (where you can see 
the header and nav).

What I need is better solution.  It's probably very obvious and I 
just can't formulate it at the moment.  Any suggestions?  You can see 
an example at http://www.drzeus.net/redesign/cslewis/faq/

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[WSG] WordPress 1.2.1 released

2004-10-06 Thread Neerav
http://wordpress.org/development/2004/10/wp-121/
Now I have to go and upgrade all my installations :-(
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[WSG] Government warned on Web site discrimination

2004-10-05 Thread Neerav
http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php?id=973165449eid=-180
Excerpt:
The man who sued SOCOG over Web site accessibility has warned that 
rising complaints against government Web sites' use of PDF documents are 
being made under commonwealth law.

Bruce Maguire, the disabled rights advocate who sued the Sydney 
Organising Committee for the Olympic Games for providing a site 
inaccessible to blind people, said the government's trend towards online 
PDF documents was attracting a growing number of DDA [Disability 
Discrimination Act] complaints.

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Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links

2004-10-04 Thread Neerav
Richard
See how I display the pipes on the horizontal menu at www.bhatt.id.au 
using css borders.

the list itself has a border-left, and all list items have a border-right
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Richard Czeiger wrote:
Sure but this only works on, like, two browsers!
Is there a funckier CSS hack kind of way?
 
:o)

Richard
- Original Message -
*From:* Kevin Futter mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Tuesday, October 05, 2004 12:02 PM
*Subject:* Re: [WSG] Semantically creating 'pipes' for footer links
For the line wrapping issue, you could try:
whitespace: nowrap;
On whatever element is giving you trouble.
Cheers,
Kevin Futter
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi guys,
 
I'm putting together a semantically correct UL of links for my
footer.
I'd like to have them separated by 'pipes' as this is a common
and easily recognised technique.
But the pipes themselves are irrelevant (semantically). So
here's what I've come up with...
 
ALSO! My one thing is that if the text inside the links is made
up of two or more words, then they get pushed to separate lines.
Is there a way to avoid this without specifying a width or
without putting a 'no broken spaces' between the words?
Can you suggest anything better?
 
 
style type=text/css
#footer {
 text-align: center;
}
#footer ul li {
 display: inline; width: 1px;
 margin: auto 5px; padding-left: 10px; border-left: 1px solid
#00;
 line-height: 120%;
}
#footer ul li:first-child { border-left: none; }
/* Not rendered by a few agents, so we'll use the
'footerBorderKill' javascript function switches off the first
child's left border */
/style
 
div id=footer
  ul id =contentLinks
lia href=link1.html title=Link 1
accesskey=1link/a/li
lia href=link2.html title=Link 2 accesskey=2link
with multiple words/a/li
lia href=link3.html title=Link 3
accesskey=3link/a/li
lia href=link4.html title=Link 4
accesskey=4linknbsp;withnbsp;NoBrokenSpaces/a/li
lia href=link5.html title=Link 5
accesskey=5link/a/li
  /ul
  ul id=validationLinks
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Re: [WSG] Fluid Horizontal Lists

2004-10-04 Thread Neerav
just a quick thought that may be completely wrong, but have you tried % 
based padding for li ?

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Todd Baker wrote:
Hi Guys,
I have just joined the list after attending WE04. 

My name is Todd Baker and I work as a XSLT/XHTML/CSS developer in Sydney.
I am doing a big CSS based rebuild for one of our clients and am
having some troubles with our fluid layout.
I want to use horizontal lists for our primary navigation but the
designs requires that the nav items are fluid, i.e. the gap between
them grows and contracts with the browser width.
I have based the nav on this --
http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/horizontal16.htm but after
playing with % width's and margin's Im still not there.
Has anyone solved the same problem else where and has some tips to help me?
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Neerav
Andreas
1. You may want to research the pros and cons of automated accessibility 
testing

2. what do you mean by password place-holder ?
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Andreas Boehmer wrote:
Hi guys,
I have got a website (www.jet.org.au) that passes Bobby almost with AAA,
with the exception of the default place holders. The reason I do not want to
put them into the site is because every page has got a login form at the
top. With the default place-holders, the login form would look something
like this:
Username: Enter username
Password: 
The password place-holder looks pretty useless and confusing to me. Most
users will plain wonder what that is supposed to do, it's not really helpful
at all.
So I'd love to hear your opinions on this one? Shall I enter them just to
pass the accessibility tests, or leave them out for (in my opinion) better
usability? Being so close to AAA and not reaching it is frustrating.
Thanks!
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Re: [WSG] default place-holders for forms

2004-10-03 Thread Neerav
Right, Now I understand
The guidelines say all form elements need to have default text inside 
them, but a form field with the type=password always renders as * 
regardless of the content

I think commonsense should prevail and you should leave the password 
field empty, otherwise you will confuse some users

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Andreas Boehmer wrote:

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Neerav
1. You may want to research the pros and cons of automated accessibility
testing

I completely agree that automated accessibility tests are not efficient
enough to rate a website accessible. However, there are reasons why these
tests ask for default place-holders, which I do not want to plainly ignore,
just because they have been requested by Bobby.

2. what do you mean by password place-holder ?

If I put a default place-holder into a form field with the type=password,
it obviously appears as ***. That's the bit I would like to avoid,
yet for accessibility reasons it may be required to provide it.
There's a discussion going on whether default place-holders are really
necessary or not. Appearantly there are some browsers or assistive
technologies that do not find form elements if they don't have a default
text in them.

Neerav Bhatt
Andreas Boehmer wrote:
Hi guys,
I have got a website (www.jet.org.au) that passes Bobby almost with AAA,
with the exception of the default place holders. The reason I
do not want to
put them into the site is because every page has got a login form at the
top. With the default place-holders, the login form would look something
like this:
Username: Enter username
Password: 
The password place-holder looks pretty useless and confusing to me. Most
users will plain wonder what that is supposed to do, it's not
really helpful
at all.
So I'd love to hear your opinions on this one? Shall I enter
them just to
pass the accessibility tests, or leave them out for (in my
opinion) better
usability? Being so close to AAA and not reaching it is frustrating.
Thanks!
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[WSG] heading background continues across container width

2004-10-02 Thread Neerav
Hi
Im experimenting with some techniques from dan cederholms book Web 
Standards Solutions and found that setting a background image like so

h1 , h2 , h3 , h4 , h5
{
  text-align : left;
  padding-bottom: 14px;
  background: url(/img/under_heading.gif) repeat-x bottom;
}
caused the background image to continue across the whole container div 
width, my guess is that this occurs because Hx tags are BLOCK elements, 
so I added :

  display: inline;
Which seemed to fix the problem, and made the background display only 
below the text in Hx tags,

Are there any caveats to bear in mind when forcing Hx tags to be inline ?
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Re: [WSG] heading background continues across container width

2004-10-02 Thread Neerav
thanks James you have confirmed my suspicion that by default h 
elements are 100% wide

everyone else, thanks for the suggestions. I only had it set on inline 
for a few minutes anyway as i knew it was not the best method, and I 
know that As soon as you convert something to inline you allow other 
inline elements to run up beside it

I think I like the effect of the image across the page anyway, so in the 
end no changes are needed :-)

I see that i didnt link to my experiment in the question so heres the 
URL http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/

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James Denholm-Price wrote:
On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 16:16:43 +1000, Neerav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Im experimenting with some techniques from dan cederholms book Web
Standards Solutions and found that setting a background image like so
h1 , h2 , h3 , h4 , h5
{
  text-align : left;
  padding-bottom: 14px;
  background: url(/img/under_heading.gif) repeat-x bottom;
}
caused the background image to continue across the whole container div
width, my guess is that this occurs because Hx tags are BLOCK elements,

repeat-x makes the background image repeat across the whole width
and by default h elements are 100% wide. Replacing it with
no-repeat would ensure only one copy of the image appears. E.g. see
http://www.w3schools.com/css/pr_background.asp
James
PS: inline worked because it made the heading shrink-wrap but you
were probably lucky that it remained on a line of its own. I guess it
was surrounded by other block elements.
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[WSG] Make Wordpress More Links Accessible

2004-10-02 Thread Neerav
While the wordpress blogging package does an admirable job publishing 
valid XHTML/CSS with good semantic code there is one feature which fails 
accessibility guidlelines.

read more about Make Wordpress More Links Accessible :
http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/2004/10/02/make-wordpress-more-links-accessible/
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Re: [WSG] Letterhead/footer using print style?

2004-10-01 Thread Neerav
One way would be to set the 'hidden' letterhead and footer to
display:none;
in the screen media css, and to remove display:none; from the print 
style sheet so they appear when printed.

note this means they will be visible in source code and to search engine 
spiders

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Lorenzo Gabba wrote:
Is it possible to create a 'hidden' letterhead and footer that would only show 
up in printed documents from a website?

If so, what would be the best-practice markup-wise given the semantic 
implications of hiding this content (company name/contact details/physical 
address/legal notice/etc.) from screen view?
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[WSG] Yahoo Embraces Web Standards (sorta)

2004-10-01 Thread Neerav
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Re: [WSG] Web Essentials Today

2004-09-30 Thread Neerav
I see that Amit has beaten me to posting a summary of events for WE04 
Day 1 at Karmakars.com , and it most certainly isnt OT :-)

I personally found the 3 Ds of CSS most useful
* Dan Cederholm (http://www.simplebits.com) - whose book I won in a 
promotion run by John Allsopp for early WE04 registrations. Ive already 
found a few useful tips while reading it on the train home.

* Dave Shea (http://www.mezzoblue.com) - of CSS Zen Garden fame.
* Doug Bowman (http://www.stopdesign.com) - who shopcased a lot of neat 
yet simple CSS tips

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Amit Karmakar wrote:
People,
Probably this is slightly OTbut...
Can't help share the beautiful presentations from the Speakers from
Day1 of the WE04 Presentation. Enjoy! I would hopefully have more
information up there by Saturday.
http://www.karmakars.com/weblog/
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Re: [WSG] doctypes, quirks/standards mode and positioning

2004-09-30 Thread Neerav
The rule of thunb is that if you're going to use XHTML, than you have to 
get it 100% correct because XHTML is much more strict and unforgiving of 
little errors than html 4

so go for html 4 transitional validation if the clients tables will 
always be invalid

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Nando wrote:
Hi all,
I've been trying to get my head around the use of doctypes and their
eventual influence on layouts via whether they force the browser into
standards mode or not.
What i've come to so far is if you use tables mixed with css for
positioning you're better off staying with an HTML 4 doctype (and in
quirks mode) rather than using an XHTML doctype and forcing the
browser into standards mode. The reason i'm asking is i'm working
contractually with a company who's using XHTML doctypes on their
templates and often improperly formed tables,  (almost as far from
XHTML as you can get sometimes and still get something to appear on
the page) for their layouts and they're asking me for help to fix it.
I've read somewhere that one should only use an XHTML doctype if
you're using XML on the page or using css positioning exclusively.
Anyone have a take on this or a good reference to consult?
Note: i'm trying to be practical here - it's an urgent job, it's clear
the company doesn't have anyone who knows anything about css
positioning on board, and i'm a student of css positioning, not an
expert. So at this point i tend to use tables to position the chunks
and css to position the detail within the chunks.
thanks,
Nando :)
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Re: [WSG] Web Site Structure Suggestions, Second Post!

2004-09-29 Thread Neerav
you forgot the charset:
meta http-equiv=Content-type content=text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 /
otherwise looks fine
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Jeremy S. (WSG) wrote:
   To the many members of WSG:
This is my second post on this same subject, and I'm hoping that this 
time I'll be able to get a response.  :-) I have built up a design in 
Photoshop, which you can view here 
http://www.effuse.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=462#462 or here 
http://www.affectus.net/images/temp/design5.jpg. I'm looking to get 
help on how I should write up the structure for the site, as I'm a bit 
confused about the best way to attack it. So far, this is what I have.

!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml
head
titleJezzJournal *new*/title
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;  /
/head

body
div id=container
div id=header
h1 id=header-textJezzJournal/h1
/div
div id=sidebar
sidebar links.
/div
div id=navigation
links.
/div
div id=content
all sorts of content here
/div
/div
/body
/html
What do you think? Would what I have be best for what I'm trying to 
accomplish?

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Re: [WSG] Just for fun

2004-09-26 Thread Neerav
Not bad, the only differences I could tell were quite minor
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Ryan Christie wrote:
I was taking requests to do a mock-up of a tables site into a CSS layout 
last week because the office was pretty slow all of Friday. I figured 
I'd share the outcome with the group.

Original Stats:
Tables: 31
Font Tags: 294
DIVs: 167
HTML size: 68.4kb
New Stats:
Tables: 3
Font Tags: 0
DIVs: 38
HTML size: 17.0kb
CSS size: 5.29kb
Original snapshot : http://theward.net/examples/chiefs.htm
Revised: http://theward.net/examples/chiefstandards.htm
There's a list that doesn't want to behave itself in IE, but other than 
that it came out alright. It was friendly in all the Mac and Win 
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Re: [WSG] Sydney WSG meeting recap

2004-09-16 Thread Neerav
After listening to Ben's presentation I feel he deserves a big *Gold* 
Star for work above and beyond the call of duty :-)

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russ - maxdesign wrote:
Another huge night tonight at the Sydney WSG with 40 people in attendance.
Thank you to all who turned up.
We had two presentations: Mark Stanton talked about semantically correct
mark-up and Ben Bishop talked us through a recent site that has just gone
live - built with web standards, of course. Great stuff! Both presentations
will be available online in the near future.
A big thank you to both presenters.
PS. I have some lost property. Someone left behind a CD with image files (or
at least that is what the label says). Contact me off-list if you think it
is yours.
Russ
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Re: [WSG] Handheld Browsers

2004-09-14 Thread Neerav
From a post by L. Hardy on 15/06/2004
 This is fairly typical of small-screen devices. Since most web developers don't use CSS 
properly yet, and many of those who do don't create handheld CSS, browser developers 
for small-screen devices have had to work out hacks to attempt to make the site conform to their 
requirements
That's probably not clarifying matters, but I've only had one coffee today so I won't 
be firing on all cylinders yet...
Anyway, read this :
http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/04/12/index4a.html
It taught me everything I ever needed to know about small-screen dev
Cheers,
Lachlan 
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Marc Greenstock wrote:
It seems browser incompatibility is as significant in handhelds as it is 
in PC's.

I recently had the privilege of viewing a few of my sites on IE on a 
Pocket PC 2003 environment. Man does it suck!

It renders the screen media stylesheet, and doesn't support the handheld 
media. Does anyone know how to fix this, apart from perhaps using a 
dirty browser sniffer?

Marc
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[WSG] www.meetup.com launches standards compliant site

2004-09-05 Thread Neerav
the css for www.meetup.com is valid and except for a few small quibbles 
the xhtml is valid too

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Re: [WSG] commonly used order of styles within a css class

2004-09-04 Thread Neerav
what about the mozilla way 
http://www.mozilla.org/contribute/writing/markup ?

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Sean wrote:
Does anyone know if there is a common way of listing styles in CSS? I 
don't mean the order of a:hover a: visited, or the order of 
specification. I am thinking more of some logical order that would be 
helpful to anyone else working on stylesheets I have created.

For example, perhaps the font and inline information is first, the 
block, padding and margin information next, and then the positioning.

In the same way that naming conventions of CSS classes and IDs is 
helpful, is anyone aware of any logical or consistent order in which the 
styles are displayed in CSS?
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Re: [WSG] FireFox - Built In CSS Error Handler?

2004-09-03 Thread Neerav
Tools - DOM inspector
Tools - Javascript Console
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Chris Stratford wrote:
Hey List,
Just wondering - anyone have any idea what this is?
A Developer's Best Friend
   Firefox comes with a standard set of developer tools including a
   powerful JavaScript and CSS error/warning console, and an optional
   Document Inspector that gives unheard of insight into how your pages
   work.
Taken from www.mozilla.org/products/firefox
I have never noticed the CSS error warnign console before
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Re: [WSG] web essentials briefing/ westciv CSS Guide

2004-09-02 Thread Neerav
1. a lot more people using mozilla/firefox than safari
2. Web Developer toolbar 
http://update.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?application=firefoxid=60vid=63

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Frederic Fery wrote:
yes it was great evening
Kate from IML gave me the copy she won of the starter kit - lucky me
I have just tried Firefox - looks very much like Safari (only after 5 
minutes of browsing) - fast, fast, fast..
What's the (standard) benefit of using firefox over safari for testing?

Frederic
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Re: [WSG] Next WSG meeting in Sydney - September 16

2004-09-02 Thread Neerav
RSVP like normal to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ?
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russ - maxdesign wrote:
Sydney WSG meeting 

Date: Thursday 16th September
Time: 6.30pm informal start for 7pm start
Where: 
Australian Museum
Search  Discover meeting room
Level 2
6 College Street Sydney

We have two exciting presentations lined up for the night.
1. Mark Stanton from Gruden will be talking about Semantically correct
mark-up.
2. Ben Bishop from Daemon with then do a presentation that looks under the
hood of a recently launched site that has been built using web standards.
More info: http://webstandardsgroup.org/go/event18.cfm
Thanks
Russ
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Re: [WSG] .pdf files

2004-08-27 Thread Neerav
No need to get tetchy non-windows ppl :-)
A 100% acessible alternative link to send customers to is :
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
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Nick Gleitzman wrote:
On Saturday, Aug 28, 2004, at 10:16 Australia/Sydney, Neerav wrote:
Keep this paragraph, but make the link directly to a mirror which has  
acrobat reader setup files eg:  
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/adobe/acrobatreader/win/5.x/5.1/ 
AcroReader51_ENU_full.exe

This follows KISS principles by making it easy for your customer to  
use PDF's with 1 click, not 1/2 a dozen clicks within the adobe site.

Fine for Win users, but a .exe file is not much use to Mac- or  
*nix-based visitors. The Adobe download site has the correct version  
for most OS's...

Don't forget, if you're looking to build an accessible site, there *is*  
a world outside of Windows...

Nick
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Re: [WSG] Word documents saved as html and cleaned.

2004-08-24 Thread Neerav
Ive never tried it but AFAIK Tidy http://tidy.sourceforge.net/ can be 
used server side to clean up code on POST eg: http://infohound.net/tidy/

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Nick Lo wrote:
Hi Jonothan,
Yeah, I'd considered that for the future however right now as far as I 
know Word 2004 on the Mac does not have the ability to save as XML. 
Since one of the users is a Mac user (so am i in fact) that solution 
will have to wait.

Thanks,
Nick
My recommendation would be to create an XML schema and then use a
product like infopath to export the xml (xhtml) to your CMS.
jonothan
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