Re: [WSG] Re: Moral High-horse

2006-02-01 Thread Paolo Dodet

Lachlan wrote: 
The problem is that many people see the issue as what will happen if Idon't follow standards?; whereas the questions they should be asking
are what are the benefits of following standards?, how mucheasier/faster is it to develop with standards?, etc.
If the whole matter were addressed this way, IMHO we would have two major benefits:

1. Clear understanding of our role within the society as a whole and the www community as part of that whole.

2. Easyness in communicating this concept to others (clients and/or
other webdesigners), since they will be clear to us in the first place.

I hope I was able to make my point here ;-)

Happy coding
-- Paolo Dodetwww.noblocodenotas.comVerba volant, Scripta manent, Digitalia juvant


Re: [WSG] Re: Moral High-horse

2006-02-01 Thread Paolo Dodet

Jay wrote:
I don't know how this is true as we can only really know our role
within a small portion of the www community within society.
I see your point and I can't but agree, partly because I didn't really
stated clearly what my point was, this in the first place, and secondly
because... yeah, the web community at large is really large, know what
I mean? 

When I stated this:

2.
Easyness in communicating this concept to others (clients and/or
other webdesigners), since they will be clear to us in the first place.What I really meant was that I can't sell anything if I'm not clear about what the advantages would be for my client.


But then you said:

we need to stop
preaching constantly to the converted and go out there and like Seth
Godin and Guy Kawasaki get ourselves some standards evangelists.
Clients who have implemented sites on standards and saved money,
development time, upgrade headaches, forward compatibility etc.


I couldn't agree more.

The best way to sell something is through some satisfied client of yours' friends. If I got your point here.

And then, regarding this group.

Well, I like it here. In spite of people who say there are some who look down to newbies and all that stuff, you know?

I AM a newbie, I don't feel like I am being looked down to by nobody. I
found people who helped me by giving me advice directly or indirectly,
and good pieces of advice too, mind you.

Surely, not all of us are from the same lot... Well, Thanks God. The
world would be such a boring place, otherwise. Don't you think so?

I think that the way people would look at me is the way I let them to,
and if I think that somebody is treating me contemptously well, I know
for experience that what I see in others is what is inside me, that's
why I can spot it in the first place, see what I mean?

So, I am with you, this is a nice place to share thoughts and ideas.
Far better than a lot of other place I didn't mention 'cause I like to
talk of good things and let the bad work out for themselves ;-)

Cheers
-- Paolo Dodetwww.noblocodenotas.comVerba volant, Scripta manent, Digitalia juvant


Re: [WSG] content type etc

2006-01-17 Thread Paolo Dodet
Thanks a lot for the answer, Lachlan.

The reason I asked you this is that I normally send two different content-type according to the browser.

That is. If you access my personal site using IE you will notice that I
use a meta tag to declare the mime-type, and in the case of IE it would
be text/html, whereas if you access using any other browser the page
will be served as XML, using a xml declaration, without any meta-tag to
declare the mime-type.

Now, even though the all thing validates as XHTML1.0 Strict, I was wondering whether that would be the correct practice.

This the link to my personal page:

www.noblocodenotas.com

Best regards.

Paolo Dodet


Re: [WSG] content type etc

2006-01-17 Thread Paolo Dodet
Thanks very much Lachlan,

I'll start to study the all matter as soon as I'll get home. A couple
of hours I guess. I really need to work this out once and for all.

Best Regards.

Paolo Dodet

-- Real knowledge is based on experience. All that is left is pure vanity.


Re: [WSG] content type etc

2006-01-15 Thread Paolo Dodet
On 15/01/06, Rimantas Liubertas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When file is saved and then loaded Mozilla determines which parser - html, o xmlto use by file extension. So if you save xhtml file as .html/.htm andthen load it, it willbe parsed by html parser, and in this case META is taken into account.
If file is saved as .xhtml, .xml or .xht it will be parsed with xmlpareser and META is ignored.
So, what about files saved with a .php extension?

Could you shed some light on it, please?

For I feel very confused about the all matter, and I can't find clear enough material online.

Paolo Dodet



Re: [WSG] pdf graphics

2006-01-14 Thread Paolo Dodet
YUP, I couldn't agree more with you.

Paolo Dodet