RE: [WSG] right column help

2004-11-03 Thread Patrick Lee
Is there a reason why you can't do both column faux with the page
background? Surely the grey background on the right will be obscured by the
top header image and the h1 (with an #fff background) if you put it in the
page background.

Considering you have a fixed width layout I'd certainly suggest doing both
column backgrounds using the background image for the page. You're going to
run into countless difficulties with the current method as you add content
to pages.



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Subject: [WSG] right column help


Hi

I'm just starting to do all my layouts in pure css and struggling a
little bit!

I've done this layout, the left column is a b/g image in the body tag
which is fine but the right one is a b/g image in a container div,
which contains the middle content and the right column. The image
doesn't seem to be repeating all the way down and how do I get the
container div to go full length of the screen? I've set it to 100%.

http://www.apperleydesign.co.uk/harbourcraft/index.htm

Style sheet: http://www.apperleydesign.co.uk/harbourcraft/style.css

Thanks

Lindsey Hill

Apperley Design
design | create | innovate
T: 01274 421410
www.apperleydesign.co.uk

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RE: [WSG] Mail with xhtml/css layout

2004-11-03 Thread Patrick Lee
You can style emails with css. Because of what many email clients (web based
and otherwise) do to the code you have to do all the css inline.

There was an article over at alistapart.com a while ago

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssemail/

A couple of additional points
1. Hotmail will change url to nourl so you can't have background images
for your css
2. Gmail basically destroys anything you throw at it as far as I can tell.

I'd advise against sending anything but plain text but if it's what a client
wants then... yes, it is possible.

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Subject: [WSG] Mail with xhtml/css layout



Hi All

I need to make a mail with xhtml/css. It4s possible ?
Are there tools to make this ?

Any idea welcome...

Thanks

Javier





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RE: [WSG] Help with position: fixed;

2004-11-02 Thread Patrick Lee
That's what should be happening.

The browser is putting the section at the top of the page as the fixed header and 
table of content aren't influencing the positioning of #main.

A quick and dirty solution is to have this

#one, #two, #three {padding-top:100px;}

instead of padding the top of #main

Emphasis on the quick and dirty there - I'm sure there's a much better solution.

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Hello to everyone!

I have the following issue
I have a page with fixed header and a set of internal links (anchor 
identifiers). The problem is in that when I follow the link the heading 
hides under the fixed header.

Link to page: http://shevtsov.fanstvo.com/tests/fixed-header.html (CSS 
is embeded into the page)

Thanks in advance.

Peter A. Shevtsov
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RE: [WSG] My CSS not multi browser - help needed

2004-07-01 Thread Patrick Lee
There's a few issues I could point out.

Firstly, there are plenty of good fixed width 2 column layouts with a header
and footer that will help show you some good practices. A google search for
css layouts will help there.

I thought about listing the most important issues regarding css positioning.
First up though, I did a quick hack of the css you had and also deleted a
couple of superfluous divs that weren't needed in the html.

Have a look

http://www.horologe.com.au/ppa/home.htm
http://www.horologe.com.au/ppa/css/layout.css

It's not real pretty or optimal or well tested but hopefully, looking at the
differences in the two (your version vs my edit) should help show you what
you're doing that's making it look strange in Moz. I would point out that
IE's ahem - shortcomings are teaching you some rather nasty habits. Try
developing your layouts with a browser which does layouts in a
more...sensible fashion and then adjust for IE's quirks later.

Let us know your questions.

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Subject: [WSG] My CSS not multi browser - help needed


Hello all, this is my first attempt at moving from tables to CSS for layout:
http://www.ppa.org.uk/test/afc/no_tables/home.htm

Looks as expected in IE6 but navigation does not float as expected in Opera
and in Mozilla the footer moves to the top of the page. Any help, advice, or
guidance would be greatly appreciated.

The stylesheet controlling the layout is
http://www.ppa.org.uk/test/afc/no_tables/css/layout.css

Thanx in advance.




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[WSG] IE float positioning

2004-06-13 Thread Patrick Lee
Hi guys,

Looking for some insight into float on IE.

I have an image inside a div, that renders beyond the bottom of that div
(deliberately.) Now, what I want is for the barckground image of the div
below to render underneath the transparent area of the image - which is
what mozilla does.

IE however, starts the next div to the right of the earlier div.

The html is as below. I used a negative top margin on B to get it to be
positioned right beneath A.

...

div id = A
img src = _img alt = _alt /
/div
div id = B

...

I hope that's somewhat clear. Any suggestions?

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RE: [WSG] Suggestions about what to do here ...

2004-03-24 Thread Patrick Lee
Personally I find the different sizes most browsers will use for fonts mean
that I always do fonts in pixel sizes.

I think that WinIE4/5 implements small as the initial value so when you
use smaller in the body it get's very small.

However, I tried it in IE5 and 5.5 and the font size seemed ok to me.

The menu however is definitely broken in IE5 and 5.5




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Subject: [WSG] Suggestions about what to do here ...


What do you guys think I should do about this .

A user has logged into my bluegrass Australia web site as a member
(http://bluegrass.org.au )  and says when he logs in, he cant read the site
any more, because the text is too small and the menus don't work properly.
The menus don't work properly because I have a javascript error, thats
under control, I can fix that. But the font size thing is a bit of a worry.
I asked him about his environment and heres what he said he has:

Intel Celeron 650 meg processor, ATI graphics card, 256 meg RAM, Mitsubishi
monitor. I run windows 98, IE 5.

Heres how I see it.  I can:

[A]  say hes got IE5, tell him to take a jump because he needs to upgrade.
(Ive done that, but if theres another answer thats easy Id like to do
that too  hes not alone)
[B] just let him lump it and use the CTRL-Wheel to increase the font size
[C] change the style sheets to accommodate IE5 users.

So whats your suggestions about how I can handle this?  Im not against
telling him tough  upgrade your browser!  but if theres a fix thats
fairly easy Id like to consider that.

The site is at http://bluegrass.org.au   and Ive set up a membership for
you to try .. user:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  pass: member

The style sheets are :

Main pages:  http://bluegrass.org.au/styles/Bluegrass_Australia.css
Menus: http://bluegrass.org.au/styles/cssjsmenu.css
Menus hover: http://bluegrass.org.au/styles/cssjsmenuhover.css

Yes, I know its not valid html, but I don't think thats why this problem
has come about.  To get the html to validate is a big job here, so Im
working towards that as fast as  I can.


Cheers
Mike Kear
AFP Webworks
Windsor, NSW, Australia
http://afpwebworks.com
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RE: [WSG] CSS Shorthand for color

2004-03-22 Thread Patrick Lee
When Brian mentioned older browsers/backwards compatibility my first thought
was about the web safe pallette.

On second glance at the question I don't know how relevant it was to the
topic.

Of course the web safe color pallette isn't very relevant anymore :)

Brian, if you were actually referring to whether using #fff instead of
#ff in a CSS file would cause problems in older browsers - I think
perhaps Navigator 4.X had a problem with them (the only browser that did
have a problem). Of course, NN4 has problems with most CSS so that can be
ignored anyway!




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On Monday, March 22, 2004, at 03:53  AM, Patrick Lee wrote:
 You use web safe colours to prevent dithering. The Browser safe
 Pallette
 has 216 colours - many of them ugly :) - it is for viewers with 256
 colour
 (8 bit) displays.

Patrick

While we are on the topic of color palettes and standard color
notation, IMHO using the web safe palette for desktop websites is like
coding for Mosaic. In this day and age, just about any color monitor
still working, can display better than 8 bit color. ;-)

Leo

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