[WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

2009-12-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Will HTML5 make the Web even more invalid? http://rebuildingtheweb.com/en/html5-make-web-more-invalid/ Can you provide any reason why you keep posting links to this site? Yes the blog _seems_ to be about web standards, but the posts are just speculation of poor quality and based on the lack of

Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

2009-12-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
It obviously worked in provoking discussion. Where do you see discussion there? Does keep them coming count as one? I am all for them coming but I'd like some QA applied to them too. (And I reserve the right to keep my opinion about the original commenter to myself ;-) Don't be shy. I will

Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

2009-12-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I reckon HTML5 Nazis I thought I was being rude there… should chill our regarding the XHTML debates as HTML5 and XHTML are interchangeable terms. How so? HTML5 has XML serialization, but that does not make HTML5 and XHTML interchangeable in any way. Comments like this other guy made just

Re: [WSG] [WSG Announce] Some links for light reading (22/12/09)

2009-12-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Guys, Shouldn't this be a separate thread? Maybe there shouldn't be any thread in the first place. On the other hand, my complaint was about Some links. Anyhow, I won't bother you anymore. My apologies to anyone offended. Have a great holidays and less Out of office replies next year. Best

Re: [Spam] :Re: [WSG] a table layout issue

2009-09-23 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I am ready to tell client technically this can't be done but this issue really struck me as it didn't occur to me a layout that simple can't be done with a table. Now it's more a personal quest than fulfilling client's requirement. http://rimantas.com/bits/table/ Of course you may need to

Re: [WSG] A Standards Oxymoron

2009-08-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Hi, After peeping the following requirement in a job description,   looking for a Web Developer who can translate visual designs into pixel-perfect, standards-compliant html/css pages a grin rivaling a James Bond villain curled the corners of my mouth. Pixel perfect and standards is an

Re: [WSG] A Standards Oxymoron

2009-08-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Hi, I've sided with the following camps regarding the notion of pixel perfect designs and standards, so my interpretation of the job requirement left me amused by the juxtaposition. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/csstalking/ . And once we get over pixel perfect layouts (as a recovering

Re: [WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-11 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
So you are really saying that typing I have got £100 to spare is OK, instead of: #8220;I have got pound;100 to spare#8221; (just as an example, of course). Really? Yes, really. HTML as SGML application has so called document character set, which is UCS (Universal Character Set,ISO10646).

Re: [WSG] font size - was [ Accessible websites]

2009-07-07 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I've been reading (and trying to learn from) the discussions on accessibility and particularly font size. I have never had any success at using ways other than pixels. … So, whilst the idea of text at 100% sounds reasonable, I always get a mixed bag of results. I feel as a

Re: [WSG] utf8 character display problem

2009-07-07 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Here's the issue: We are working on a site that incorporates Russian text. It displays OK on our development server, but when transferring the files to the live server we get garbled output. … However, the same file uploaded to the live server displays the last menu item incorrectly:

Re: [WSG] website fonts

2009-06-23 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Oh, it doesn't stop with fonts! Some website producers are arrogant enough to force text and images on the visitor instead of allowing them to enjoy the default text and images they have written for their own browser. It's shocking; simply shocking. If people actually wanted to read the text,

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-04 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Then perhaps you would care to explain why this document: http://zenpsycho.com/quirkstest2.htm activates standards mode, when the table you've linked to suggests that it should be in quirks mode? Table clearly shows, that this page should activate standards mode. It is the last line,

Re: [WSG] The weirdest IE bug I've ever encountered.

2009-06-03 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I'm pretty sure the well observed and documented behavior of IE is that WHICH doctype makes absolutely not a lick of difference at all. This is not correct. The only thing it looks for is the string !doctype at the beginning of the document, which decides whether it goes into quirksmode or

Re: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-24 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Personally, I think there should have been a companion article explaining why designers can't write code. That would be the very wrong article. This is a classic example: the whole point of setting the base font size to this value is to make the maths easier when sizing all other font

Re: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-24 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Getting back on subject, I do not think the box model has been fixed in IE7, but I do not know for sure. You might try adding margin for separation with containing div tags in browsers. Once again: box model was fixed in IE6, given your page has proper doctype (and nothing above it).

Re: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-23 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Is the box model in IE7 still messed up? I thought they sorted it? Box model was fixed in IE6 (with apropriate doctype). I am floating a div to the right with a width of 50%. The div to the left has a right margin of 50%. I've put a 1px solid border on both of them. In IE7 there is a gap

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-02-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
What kind of mobile phone does the average person use? … As for that figure, I'm not sure that includes browsers that don't actually support javascript at all! … The right question to ask would be what kind of mobile phone does the average person use to browse the web?. My point is, that those

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
IMO stats from tech sites are not very representative of the general intarwebs user base. Exactly, only this can mean the opposite of what you state: more tech savy users know how to turn Javascript off, unlike the general public. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] Re: Users who deliberately disable JavaScript

2009-01-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Another point to note is that many mobile phones have JavaScript enabled so this figure may increase with the expected rise in mobile popularity. *** Sorry - that should have said disabled not enabled ** I actually see mobile browsing rising in popularity when browsers on gadgets are full

Re: [WSG] Helpful Criticism and Browser test plz

2009-01-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Just got my latest project to validate XHTML Strict, and just wanted any helpful criticism and also to see if any problems with any Browsers and Operating Systems . http://www.clock-this.co.uk/ Pro: Looks nice Cons: - increasing text size messes thing up (at least in Safari/Mac) -

Re: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-18 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Without using alerts, you could add the warning into the actual document. But how does a screen reader know the document has changed? For starters: http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/introduction-to-wai-aria/ Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
FWIW - You can use the HTML 5 DOCTYPE today. Browsers only use the DOCTYPE for standards / quirks mode switching, and all browsers switch to strict with this, I believe: !DOCTYPE html The validator still needs a DTD though. There is a validator for HTML5: http://html5.validator.nu/

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... I say that in the years coming, maybe 20 years from now, who knows, but eventually HTML and XHTML will be replaced by XML. XHTML _is_ XML The other two say differently, more along the lines that they will never do away with HTML or XHTML. Even if HTML will be replaced by something it

Re: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I made the same decision. I still follow HTML and XHTML, but anything I do (and have a choice about) is always HTML 4.01 Strict. I think it makes more sense than XHTML 1.0 Strict at this point since we can't really use real XHTML yet. It seems to defeat the purpose if you are using a Strict

Re: [WSG] Who are the Away on leave Notices from? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-11-06 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
but the point of IT is to make life easier. So it is the responsibility of the OOON setter to make heir OOON not mailstorm their lists and add more email to the already massive amount mail servers have to deal with. No to mention, this discussion would then be filtered out, so you wouldn't

Re: [WSG] Who are the Away on leave Notices from? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-11-06 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
wondering what part of THREAD CLOSED people don't understand... I have always had trouble understanding messages that I do not see. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/ *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-24 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... As others have said, most other OO languages implement class-based inheritance, often as a result of their linear underpinnings. People who are used to this approach, then go through some horrible kludges to simulate this unnecessarily in JavaScript apps, and then complain that the

Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-24 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I don't think Javascript is Object-Based, because I can just write a function that prints instead of using an object. And even though Javascript has objects, I think the style of writing it is more accurately described by the prototype model. You can print Hello, world in Ruby without

Re: [WSG] Opera not playing nice with checkbox

2008-09-12 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
By the way, the radio buttons on the above page, is exactly what I wrote about annoying thing about Opera that it inherits the borders from input element. Checkbox _is_ an input element. Just like radio – they are all INPUTs only with different type. If you want to target some type

Re: [WSG] Figures out issues. Standards for troubleshooting css

2008-08-31 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
My first steps are of course make sure things validate. Beyond that I don't have any standard steps besides really using google. Any good lists of generic steps people do when troubleshooting CSS issues. One URL: http://getfirebug.com/ Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] Multiple Firefox on Mac

2008-07-24 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Does anyone have a link to a decent reference on running Firefox 2 3 simultaneously on Mac? I can't seem to find a decent one out there. It is very easy, see here for the ideas: http://ejohn.org/blog/sexy-firefox-3/ Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] iphone should not be part of your url

2008-07-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
let's not forget that the iPhone's browser is (as of right now) the largest mobile browser, Not true. Opera Mini has more active users per week than iPhones that exist on the market. http://blogs.computerworld.com/iphone_users_search_google_5000 : The Financial Times talked to Google at

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

2008-01-31 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Why sniff out browsers that accept XML? If the document is marked as XHTML 1.1 it should allways be sent as XML. ... That is true, but Internet Explorer does not support XHTML. HTML 4.01/5 ftw :) Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] Conflict between Mime Type and Document Type

2008-01-31 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... FWIW - and I do not wish to reopen the considered harmful debate - appendix C allows for sending XHTML 1.1 as well as XHTML 1.0 as text/html. (That's a recent change in the specs that few seem to know about.) Can you elaborate what appendix C are you talking about?

Re: [WSG] Float-less layouts

2008-01-08 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
When using DIV, what translate that hierarchy? div id=level1 div id=level2 div id=level3I am down the hierarchy :(/div /div /div This may not make Lists better for construct, but it should show that the div element represents nothing at all (as it says in one of the 2 links you

Re: A: [WSG] Target Lawsuit - Please Make Yourself Heard

2007-10-04 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Speaking only of businesses int he United States, no government entity should be telling a private business what it must do WHAT? with that one line you have just summarised all that is strange about America. Private business is above the law? They can do whatever they like? so it's

Re: [WSG] Font sizing: top down or bottom up

2007-09-05 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
That was, in part, why I started this thread; I felt (and still feel) that the notion of you MUST design for 100% of your users' default text size because that is their preferred text size was becoming a mantra. And that is only an assumption. Default font size was chosen by browser vendors,

Re: [WSG] Standards and Blogs

2007-08-13 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... One question though: On your tutorial page, you appear to put some PHP code above the doctype in order to remove any instance of self-closing tags. Specifically: ... Does this not throw Explorer into quirks mode? I was under the impression that anything (other than whitespace, maybe)

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling ofanother block element

2007-07-27 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I think I'd like to hear from someone really into this stuff - because I realized that my interpretation would outlaw this: div img /div and surely that must be okay, no? I am confused, what problem do you try to solve? Yes, according to specification and DTD as shown earlier it is ok to

Re: [WSG] an inline element (inside a block element) sibling of another block element

2007-07-25 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
div A line of plain text. pA paragraph./p Another line of text. /div Now a question, Is this actually valid?? I recently recieved some templates of another designer and this was scattered all throughout the pages. I went through and put p around them BUT is it valid??? Or is it a

Re: [WSG] Using target=_blank

2007-07-24 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I used to work for a web development company who designed a website for a large homebuilder. At the bottom of the home page, we had a link to our website, i.e. Site designed by ourCompany. We did not use target=_blank. When our homebuilder customer clicked on our link and found themselves in

Re: [WSG] Who's A Front End Developer?

2007-07-04 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... To sum things up, for me a front-end developer uses at least one of the following techniques: - (X)HTML - CSS - JavaScript (client side) - Flash (?) I think that even for front-end developer some level of the knowledge about web servers and HTTP is essential. And cross-browser

Re: self-closing tags in HTML, was: [WSG] A CMS for POSH sites?

2007-05-29 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I still can't see where it says that in the spec, do you need to know the SGML spec as well? It seems strange that the closing slash is taken as the close, rather than the greater than sign, is that in the HTML spec somewhere? http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/sgml/sgmldecl.html FEATURES, SHORTTAG

Re: [WSG] Absolute Positioning-A Naive Question (Maybe)

2006-03-14 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... I don't think the Baron reference is sufficient evidence for the assertion that using floats for layout is an abuse of them. On the contrary, I have seen several references in the last few years that stated floats *were* the preferred layout method by the W3C CSS working group. ... I am

Re: [WSG] Some studies about web standards usage (sites of Estonia and W3C members)

2006-03-12 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I have made some further studies on Estonian web sites. Compared to the survey done in August, the number of valid sites has grown almost 50%. Quite interesting, but one thing confuses me: no HTML 4.01 Strict? Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] Font Sizes - Best practice

2006-02-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... I'll think you'll find them pretty unanimous in saying in essence don't mess with user defaults. Don't expect all the latter to practice what they preach though. ... Only these are browsers vendors defaults, not users. Can anyone point me to a study which shows: a) How many users do know

Re: [WSG] Font Sizes - Best practice

2006-02-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... Yes, we as developers can educate them, but when they see their competitor sites (and even big sites from the likes of IBM and co.) *all* setting a slightly smaller default font size, they expect the same on their site as well. A yes, but all those other sites are wrong and I do it the

Re: [WSG] content type etc

2006-01-15 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Gee Rimantas, Such enlightenment! Oh, well, OK. According to [1] XHTML1.1 should not be sent with MIME type of text/html. Some may argue that should not is not the same as must not and need to serve IE justifies the use of text/html MIME type for XHTML1.1, but I belong to XHTML as text/html

Re: [WSG] content type etc

2006-01-15 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Ah... nearly. meta element content-type declarations ARE used, just not when the page viewed is coming from a non-local filesystem/HTTP. So it's necessary in the sense that it enables people to save your page and for that page to be 'usable' in a more general sense (though browsers have a

Re: [WSG] Wish-list for 2006

2006-01-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
4) All remaining browsers fully support XHTML 2.0 and CSS3 I'd trade this one for 4) anyone, who calls himself the 'web professional' learning to use HTML and CSS properly. Yep, its about HTML4/XHTML1 and CSS2.1... Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] Best Web Standards thing I learnt in 2005.

2005-12-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/22, Jay Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Still looking for a valid replacement to the IE CSS, display: inline-block; thing... What am I missing? display: inline-block is perfectly valid in CSS2.1 Is your problem that CSS validator defaults to CSS2 profile? You can change that selecting

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-15 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/15, Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... If it can't be done, It can be done, and it has be done hundreds of times (in real world too): take a look at csszengarden.com, or sites featured in cssvault.com, stylegala.com, etc. I'd like to see a humble admission from the non-table people

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-13 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Given a choice of one table or hacks to do what one table already does, I'll stick with the one table. Only so called hacks go to the presentation layer (CSS file) and table stays in your HTML markup. If the current specs still have height issues for divs (which it seems they do), how can we

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-13 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I'd rather have that single, easy to spot hack, which adds very little overhead, than multiple background images and extra divs coupled with hyroglyphics in my css file. Amen So, how are you going to style your single table? Either with CSS with all multiple background imageas and extra

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-13 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/13, Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is one browser with issues, not the specs. Which browser can correctly render the following: ... http://rimantas.com/bits/notable.html Opera: since version 4. Gecko browsers: works with the oldest I have got: Mozilla Seamonkey 0.6

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-13 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
Display: table-cell is a great tool, but its practicality will not be meaningful for several years. While IE5 Mac is fairly irrelevant, IE5 and IE6 Windows have a long life remaining. It's a fun declaration to play with, but serious commercial designers would be ill-advised to depend on it at

Re: [WSG] CSS Driven?

2005-12-12 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/12, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... I guess your assertion hinges on how one interprets the word should. Perhaps I am English-challenged, but I always took should to have a suggestive or advisory connotation, while shall or must are obligatory :-) ...

Re: [WSG] *Why* doesn't Google validate? was New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-10 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... Updated valid page, based on the above: http://xomerang.com/testpages/google/validGoogle.html (1,953 bytes) Ok I took your version and got it to extreme: http://rimantas.com/bits/google/google1.html (1729 bytes). What I did: got rid of some optional tags, shortened name of CSS file to

Re: [WSG] *Why* doesn't Google validate? was New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-10 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... I'm wondering what led MSN to go with external files, and Yahoo with CSS in the header. MSN is obviously much more optomized than Yahoo (the yahoo markup is a mess), and I'm thinking MSN might have picked the right choice. Their CSS file is massive and probably covers all the internal

Re: [WSG] *Why* doesn't Google validate? was New logo scheme was talking points for standards

2005-12-09 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... I thought about doing that, but decided I didn't have time. Interestingly, comparing the two pages in http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ shows the original is *slightly* lighter (but I bet you could beat that by removing more carriage returns, same as the original) ...

Re: [WSG] page check please - mime type!

2005-12-07 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/7, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So is the best thing to target xhtml browsers? Like, specifically Opera, Safari, Konquerer, etc? How exactly would one do content negotation with PHP? You may try this: http://keystonewebsites.com/articles/mime_type.php On the other hand:

Re: [WSG] XML Declaration

2005-12-03 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/3, T. R. Valentine [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 03/12/05, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your server is sending the MIME type text/html, then the META doesn't do anything. You need to change the MIME type being sent out in the headers, and that is done server side. Thanks

Re: [WSG] XHTML Issues

2005-12-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... I code in xhtml Strict and serve it as text/html. My code is future-proof, valid and well structured. If I code in HTML4, there is less need for writing properly structured documents. Too bad if quality of code depends on choice between HTML and XHTML. If at some point in the future

Re: [WSG] XHTML Issues

2005-12-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/2, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rimantas Liubertas wrote: It is pretty easy to check, all we need is some online tool which, given an url can resend page's content with application/xhtml+xml. Then grab those XHTML pages and see what happens. Try Hixie's content-type proxy

Re: [WSG] Newcomers and Web Standards (was editor)

2005-12-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... Lachlan, here is a classic example of a person new to Web Standards asking for a recommendation about which editor to use and instead you embroil this person in a debate over MIME types. Do you think this is a healthy environment for newcomers to learn about Web Standards? Why do you

Re: [WSG] Newcomers and Web Standards (was editor)

2005-12-02 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/12/2, XStandard Vlad Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So Rimantas, you have written invalid XHTML, served it as XML and then blamed XHTML because your Web site broke. Your assumption is wrong :) If you had written invalid HTML 4 and some User Agents had not parsed it correctly, would you

Re: [WSG] firefox 1.5 is official

2005-11-30 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
The Mac version of HTMLTidy doesn't work under 1.5, which actually prevents me from upgrading on my work machine, as I use this all the time as a handy shortcut for picking up validation errors (and puts this thread vaguely on-topic too). The PC version works, so I'll be upgrading my PC for

Re: [WSG] Altering a Valid (X)HTML with DHTML = Is it still REAL LY valid?

2005-11-11 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/11/11, Wayne Douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: It's a tricky one How? If a tree falls in a wood and no-one hears it - does it still make a noise? Well, it is tricky one. It certainly makes some air waves, but can those waves be called noise until they hit someone's eardrums? ;) But digging

Re: [WSG] Character encoding mismatch

2005-11-10 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/11/10, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am getting the following warning when I validate my pages: -- Character Encoding mismatch! The character encoding specified in the HTTP header (iso-8859-1) is different from the value in the meta element (utf-8). I will use the

Re: [WSG] inline element directly on body

2005-10-23 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/10/23, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Inline elements [1] and anonymous inline boxes [2] cannot be placed directly inside the body, form or blockquote elements when using a strict Doctype. They must be wrapped in a block level element. ... [1]

Re: [WSG] javascripts and standards

2005-10-16 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/10/16, Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jad Madi wrote: I know there is a lot of tutorials out there, but I'm looking for a book, do you recommend any book about coding with Js without breaking standards? I'd go for Jeremy Keith's new DOM Scripting book

Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-11 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I would argue (without sounding too much like a marketeer or graphic designer) that a logo (particularly if it's not just just text in a specific typeface, but also includes swooshes, ticks, whatver) is more than just a visual representation of text, in the same way that a head and shoulders

Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-11 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... however - I argue that the issue isn't so clear cut if we take into account (and are concerned about) user environments like screenreaders / text-only browsers: the logos then just become text and, perhaps, should be marked-up as such ... ... So shall we get rid of IMG element

Re: [WSG] Placement of company logo

2005-10-10 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... QED: Use image replacement for logos (over h1 heading) where possible! ... I'd say, where necessary... I gradually arrived at this: Logo is important visual/id/navigation element of the page, so I have it in the html as IMG. It is not header of any kind (imho, no need to argue), so it is

Re: [WSG] Clearleft.com

2005-09-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... Part of the point of web standards in general is that the user and user agent have final control of the layout, not the designer. So if the page is too wide on a 21 inch monitor, why not reduce the window size? ... Two questions - then what are designers for? Maybe just throw the info and

Re: [WSG] divitis - a worthy goal?

2005-09-09 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/9/9, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... Thus, we want our markup to have as much information as possible, so that every block level element has a title, every object has its alternative content, every acronym has its definition, etc. ... No, I don't want to have as much

Re: [WSG] divitis - a worthy goal?

2005-09-09 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
I don't think you know what I'm talking about. The information is not for humans... obviously. Accessibility isn't just about people. The extra information is for, as I already stated, computing devices that parse the data. In XML, you really do have that much information every single

Re: [WSG] divitis - a worthy goal?

2005-09-09 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/9/9, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We're still not on the same page. May I ask what your experience is with computers? 15 years of programming experience, nine years of professional web development work, including work on internet banking application. And that involves xml and xsl

Re: [WSG] divitis - a worthy goal?

2005-09-09 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/9/9, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Because you CAN (so something) does not mean you SHOULD. Oh, that should be do something. And maybe it is better to go off list if there is something to discuss? I really do not want to hijack this list attention with irrelevant info... Regards,

Re: [WSG] Browsers as copilers (was) Barclays standards redesign

2005-09-08 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/9/8, Chris Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Exactly. I was actually thinking the other day, browsers should be more like compilers... they should refuse to parse incorrect code. Then the enforcement would be on the output end, too. Perhaps some clever person could write a Firefox

Re: [WSG] Tables - a challenge!

2005-09-08 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
2005/9/8, Ingo Chao [EMAIL PROTECTED]: ... For your specific dead center question, were the pure CSS path shows a very known CSS weakness in vertically centering content: ... A very known Internet Explorer weakness, I would say. Regards, Rimantas -- http://rimantas.com/

Re: [WSG] divitis - a worthy goal?

2005-09-08 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
... Eschewing markup that is not needed today is equivalent to adding presentational decisions to the markup for tomorrow. ... Only if tomorrow we won't have browsers with advanced CSS support (talk multiple backgrounds). Oh, we have these today... Sure, IE is here to stay for a

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 21/08/05, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do we love to use pixels for font sizing because it has any intrinsic advantage, or simply because we'd rather be designing for print? ... Print? Is print in pixels? Never heard that. My screen is measured in pixels, I view the web on my

Re: [WSG] web accessibility toolbar

2005-08-21 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 21/08/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everything on a web page is relative to the viewing device, and so px is not relative to anything relevant in the text sizing context. At any given resolution, px is no less absolute or fixed than cm, in, or pt, all of which cannot be resized

Re: [WSG] Firefox DOM and whitespace (bug?)

2005-08-04 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 8/4/05, Patrick Ryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recently ran across an issue (I would call it a bug?) in firefox's DOM. ... But it seems to me white space should be entirely ignored in the DOM. ... Is this a recent Firefox bug or proper behavior (that must be scripted around...). I'd be

Re: [WSG] IE7 b1 :/

2005-07-29 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 7/29/05, Kazuhito Kidachi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we should wait for next beta version of IE7. I do understand what many web developers feel about Beta 1, but it's still far from final product, as Dean said at IEBlog. Molly wrapped up about current situation about IE7:

Re: [WSG] Things I didn't realise, part 126

2005-07-26 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 7/26/05, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... So this means that support for background fixed works in 5.5, but was dropped in 6, unless it's in quirks. A backward step if ever there was! Can this be right? Or am I too tired . . . Works perfectly for me in IE6 'standards' mode. Can

Re: [WSG] Prototype Framework - script.aculo.us

2005-07-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 7/22/05, Chris Rizzo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing I haven't found yet is a possible alternative to script.aculo.us. We've tried to implement some of these effects and they work in Firefox but not IE (throws no error). There's no help/support anywhere that I can find and

Re: [WSG] Complete CSS reset

2005-07-05 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 7/5/05, Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I'm going to be teaching some web developers CSS soon and would like to teach it from a complete seperation of structure from presentation standpoint which is hard to do when headings are still big, blockquotes are still indented, etc. ...

Re: [WSG] input/text random background color in IE?

2005-06-27 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/27/05, Vaska. WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it that IE turns the background of some input/text elements to light yellow? I can't find any information as to why or how it's doing this...and I want to stop it. Anybody know what this is about? My guess is: you have google toolbar

Re: [WSG] Standards and ADS

2005-06-14 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/14/05, Jad Madi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Will ADS break web standards in any mean ? such as Google ads, and Amazon ads? No. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/7/05, XStandard Vlad Alexander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... [Ian] 4. Author decides to send the same content as application/xhtml+xml, because it is, after all, XHTML. [Vlad] Author wants to learn more about XHTML. What? ... I think arguments like this don't help Web standards. And

Re: [WSG] Ten questions for Russ

2005-06-07 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/7/05, Ben Curtis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... XHTML is useful to me because I can swap out the DOCTYPE and serve it as HTML, because it *is* HTML, giving it broad support today while giving it a predictable and flexible future. This is, essentially, XHTML-compatible HTML 4.01 Strict.

Re: [WSG] problem with utf-8 page encoding

2005-06-06 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 6/5/05, Vaska. WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure what the deal is, but when I bring up a page in my system it doesn't encode properly at first. I have to go the browser options and change it to utf-8. The funny thing is that utf-8 is my default as set in all my browsers. ... I

Re: [WSG] Site check - lastminute.com

2005-05-20 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 5/20/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And from that sample, how many of those users know how to change the default size of the text displayed in their browser? I'm at a loss to think of any reason how an answer to this might be relevant to choosing whether to respect visitors'

Re: [WSG] Space-saving Form Select vs Space-hungry HTML List

2005-05-16 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 5/16/05, Nick Cowie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan wrote: What is the 'official' word on the use of form selects as an alternative to space hungry HTML lists? I would not even go think about using a form select for a menu, my experience has shown that most people ignore form selects.

Re: [WSG] whats this

2005-05-13 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 5/12/05, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hello. I was looking over the list navigation article at http://www.complexspiral.com/events/archive/2003/seybold/cssnav.html lia href=index.html id=homeWidgetCo Home/a/li what is the id=home used for in this href? theres no css rule for

Re: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?

2005-04-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 4/22/05, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first points on that web site is: Sites built with web standards take less time to develop I have to disagree. Trying to lay a site out with CSS can be very complicated and time consuming, given all that hacks that you have to research

Re: [WSG] Web standards as a selling point?

2005-04-22 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 4/22/05, Stevio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Using tables for layout is also a fairly intuitive thing, so using them was not a problem for people making web sites. ... Yes, that indeed was the case. Now web is getting mature, so we have to make sites that are easy to USE (and access), not

Re: [WSG] CSS Zen Garden piss take, anyone got link?

2005-04-17 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On 4/18/05, Rebecca Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, Don't know if anyone remembers seeing a sort of rip off of CSS Zen Garden a while back? Someone did a manky looking old school design, not on the main site. I'm after the URL if anyone has it.

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