RE: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes
I am having the same problem with GMAIL. Using ctrl-+ gives me a too large font and no reflow at the 3rd expansion and a too small font at lower expansions. Regards, Steven C. Perkins At 10:41 AM 12/1/2005, you wrote: I'm unable to duplicate this. I would try resetting your text size to normal, or createing a new profile and see if it occurs under that profile also. As for greasemonkey, they relased 0.6.4 yesterday for Firefox 1.5 only. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Zulema Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:18 AM To: WSG List Subject: [WSG] FF1.5 and font sizes I've upgraded my Firefox[1] to the new 1.5 version and it seems to me that some website's font sizes have become a lot smaller. For example many of the Google sites[2] have smaller font sizes; I can hardly tell which of my Gmail emails are new because the font size is so small the bolding is nonexistant! A List Apart[3] is teeny tiny. Even my blog has fallen victim. :( Is it the doctype? Is it the html xmlns namespace attribute? Is it something else? Just curious to know if I'm just crazy or if anyone else sees this. btw: I'm so bummed that greasemonkey doesn't work in FF1.5 :'( thanks! Zulema [1] http://getfirefox.com/ [2] http://www.google.com/ http://maps.google.com/ http://www.gmail.com/ [3] http://www.alistapart.com/ --- Zulema Ortiz folio: http://zoblue.com/ blog: http://blog.zoblue.com/ browser: http://getfirefox.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** NOTICE: The information contained in this message is intended for the addressess(s) only and may be confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems with the transmission, please immediately notify us by return e-mail. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying, or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. The sender will not be liable for any damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third-party or as a result of any virus being transmitted. This notice is automatically appended to each e-mail message transmitted from the sender's e-mail domain. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Wild metadata
You might be interested in MKSearch, it searches for DC metadata in the head section of web pages. http://www.mksearch.mkdoc.org/ Regards, Steven C. Perkins At 03:16 AM 11/14/2005, you wrote: Hi DC-General and the Web Standards Group Here's another half-baked idea that I am trying to straighten out. I would appreciate your feedback and suggestions. This will be my last one for a while, I promise. ** The problem ** On the Web, DC.description and DC.subject are not very effective finding aids when the full text is indexed. ** The solution ** Wild metadata, such as anchor text, blog descriptions and folksonomies may provide better description and subject (or keyword) metadata. ** Example ** !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd; html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; xml:lang=en lang=en head link rel=schema.dc href=http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/; / link rel=schema.terms href=http://purl.org/dc/terms/; / link rel=DC.subject href=http://api.search.yahoo.com/WebSearchService/rss/webSearch.xml? appid=yahoosearchwebrssquery=link:http://jod.id.au/tutorial/naked- metadata.html / link rel=DC.subject href=http://del.icio.us/rss/url/e43f0f84e421ed5de166b285eca30468; / link rel=DC.description href=http://www.blogdigger.com/rssLinkSearch.jsp?link=http:// jod.id.au/tutorial/wild-metadata.html / /head body /body /html ** Background ** At the DC-ANZ 2005, David Hawking (Panoptic, CSIRO) convinced me that DC.Description and DC.Subject metadata aren't very useful finding aids when the full text of a Web page is indexed. He showed a comparison of searches based on subject and description metadata versus searches based on anchor text alone, and the anchor text search was just as effective. [1, 2] Aside from Web page authors, lots of people spend time indexing and categorising Web pages. They build links, write blog entries and tag pages in folksonomies. This metadata is wild - it is not crafted or controlled by the agency who created the page. It hasn't been commissioned and it represents a variety of world views. Individually, these pieces of metadata may not be very useful. In numbers, however, the irregularities begin to smooth out and the information may be as good or better than metadata written by a Web page author. The quality will not be as good as trained librarians applying metadata via a standardised system and controlled vocabularies. It will, however, be as good or better than untrained people applying metadata to their own pages. It will also be better than no metadata at all. ** Method ** A rough and ready method consists of finding pages that display anchor text, weblog summaries and folksonomy tags for a given page. Preference is given to pages that provide results in a well-formed XML format, as these assist the harvesting process. * Anchor text * Yahoo! provides a good listing of anchor text terms via their ability to find pages that link to a specified URL. The syntax for Yahoo! is: http://api.search.yahoo.com/WebSearchService/rss/webSearch.xml? appid=yahoosearchwebrssquery=link:http://jod.id.au/tutorial/naked- metadata.html * Weblogs * Weblog search engines like Blogdigger will show blog entries for a given URL. These can be used as descriptions of the page. The format for Blogdigger is: http://www.blogdigger.com/rssLinkSearch.jsp?link=http://jod.id.au/ tutorial/wild-metadata.html * Folksonomies * I could only find one folksonomy (del.icio.us) that had a syntax for searching by URL. Unfortunately, I could not find a simple way to use this syntax. Del.icio.us allocates a unique number to each URL. Therefore, before you can construct a URL, you need to discover what the URL is. + For example, I created the page: http://jod.id.au/tutorial/wild-metadata.html + I then tagged it in Del.icio.us. + I then searched for it in Del.icio.us. + Del.icio.us told me that this URL could be referenced in RDF format at: http://del.icio.us/rss/url/e43f0f84e421ed5de166b285eca30468 ** Harvesting ** It is all well and good to put metadata into a document. You have to be able to get it out again for it to be any use. Both Yahoo! and Del.icio.us provide their results in RSS or Atom format. While this makes the results machine-readable (and machine harvestable), it doesn't make it easy for a mere mortal to read it. I'm not sure if there are DC.metadata harvesters that can parse RSS or Atom feeds as metadata. The possibility exists - I just can't point to an example. ** Advantages ** + Wild metadata adds multiple voices to a metadata record. For example, wild metadata might exist in different languages. + Wild metadata does not cost the Web page author anything, either in terms of time or money. ** Disadvantages ** + New pages will not have any wild metadata
Re: [WSG] Need recomendations for CMS system
I surf with ignore font sizes on with IE and the TextPattern home page does not play well in that circumstance. Interior pages seem to be OK. I'd be interested in knowing if it always makes the homepage fixed font-size or relative font-size. Steven C. Perkins At 11:13 AM 8/17/2005, you wrote: Textpattern gets my vote too - I've found that it is very flexible. We've used it for several sites including www.cope.ltd.uk and www.selfcateringshetland.com. All the sites we've used it for so far have been static, i.e. 'non-blog' - there is no real problem setting this up once you understand how the system works. My only concern with Textpattern is that some of our clients did not find it immediately intuitive to get to grips with. It was important to explain to them about sections/articles and so on so that they can add/edit the correct content. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** I see the Earth. It is so beautiful. [Yuri Alekseevich Gagarin, from the Vostok 1, April 12, 1961.] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] dublin core and search engines
Hello: Actually there is an academic study of the use of DC metatags on web pages and the ranks of those pages in search engine results. I am searching for the citation and will send it when I find it. The basic answer is it depends on the search engine, but in the majority of cases, it did raise the rank of the page. In one instance it decreased the rank. I don't remember if the exact metadata was given, so I can't say if the decrease was a result of poor choice of metatags. I'd use them. Regards, Steven C. Perkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 25 Oct 2004 at 11:41, Ted Drake wrote: Date sent: Mon, 25 Oct 2004 11:41:58 -0700 From: Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[WSG] dublin core and search engines To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I hope this isn't off topic. But I figured the Dublin Core was standards based and so I'm throwing it out there. Our company hired an SEO company to help get better search results. They gave the standard answers with page names, titles, descriptions, as well as the wink/nod use these alt tags, comment tags, your not supposed to do this but do it anyway suggestions. I convinced everyone to do things correctly, i.e. alt tags. I also initiated the dublin core metatags. The SEO company doesn't know what the dublin core is. They are covering their butts because we didn't get the immediate boost that some members in our company expected. The SEO company is pointing to our dublin core metatags as if they may be at fault. Here's my question: Does anyone know if dublin core metatags can hurt SEO rankings? I'd really appreciate any stories, blogs, or research that could give us an answer. I'm thinking the engines that ignore metatags will continue to ignore the dublin core and those that do pay attention will give us credit for them. What are your opinions? Is anyone else using them? Ted www.csatravelprotection.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
