Re: [WSG] Is it still necessary to encode ampersands?

2010-06-30 Thread Susan Grossman
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Nancy Johnson njohnso...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think you said it very nicely.

 The sites I am work on, one agency designs and gives initial html
 mock-up and we hook it up to an CMS system and the client adds
 content.  Could it be managed better? yes, but that is the way we
 work.

 The validator doesn't handle javascript,  and although I do my best to
 use external files, there on times which I find that the js needs to
 be inline and that causes some validation issues.  The links with
 event handlers don't seem to validate.

 Owners chose the friendly URL's.
 Owners add content, the pages are flexible enough for them to add
 their own html coding and there are errors in their coding as well.

 Currently, not one error has to do with the CSS or how the html coding
 is handled.

 Raises another question.  How does one handle inline javascript these
 days?  Because of the dyanmic nature of a site sometimes the JS  can't
 go in external URL's   Links with eventhandlers.  etc.




*I find that adding into these meta tags into the header can solve the
inline validation issues sometimes, depending on the doctype.
*

*meta http-equiv=Content-Style-Type content=text/css /
meta http-equiv=Content-Script-Type content=type /*





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Re: [WSG] validator error or my code?

2010-03-27 Thread Susan Grossman
 156 E651 The value of the 'for' attribute must match the 'id' of a control
 element in the same form:
 E895 [WCAG v2 1.3.1 (A)] Reference to a missing or incorrect 'id'
 attribute:
  label for=sp3

 but the ID for sp3 is there.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/P500XXFt39L7a5dCOP1Kxw?feat=directlink



Without the entire code it's hard to say, but could it be that both elements
aren't inside the actual form elements together like below?  That would show
an error like this



   label for=sp3

   form.
input id=sp3
   /form



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Re: [WSG] Reset Forms

2009-02-23 Thread Susan Grossman
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:03 AM, Todd Budnikas to...@missiondata.comwrote:

 A question came up today inquiring about a design my company has recently
 completed. There is currently in the design an option to reset the form on
 one of the pages. Does anyone have any opinions on the usefulness of that
 feature, or statistics on whether or not people use it?


Reset has it's uses.If the form that has pre-set values, for instance in
edit mode, we use reset to put back the old values that got wiped out on
typing over, but leaves you on the page. Cancel bails you from the edit
screen back to the list of things to edit.  We also use Cancel in modal
windows (again in edit mode) to close the window and cancel any changes
made.

If it's a form that doesn't have any pre-populated values, I don't think
reset has value, but that's just personal opinion.


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Re: [WSG] Checking My Page

2009-01-14 Thread Susan Grossman


 ps: so here's the url to the site.

 http://tracs.co.nz/marvin/
 E-mail http://tracs.co.nz/marvin/E-mail: startrekc...@gmail.com
 MSN: sttartrekc...@msn.com
 Skype: startrekcafe
 We Are The Borg! You Will Be Assimilated! Resistance Is Futile!
 Star Trek Voyager Episode 68 Scorpian Part One


It's not as bad as it appears on first glance, in fact a few simple
corrections can make this a site with graphics that work.  Here are some
simple suggestions that's just one way to make this work.

1)  Don't have an image over the background.  The background is a good image
but it is complex, there's a lot of things going on in it so it's important
to see the whole image without another image on top of it.  If you need a
logo, consider putting it into the Header area, which doesn't conflict with
the background - and keep it small and simple.

2)  Once the image is removed, use margin-bottom on the header to push the
next text down an allow viewing of the background image (anywhere around
3.5-5.5em depending on the look you wish to achieve)

3)  You need to use a clear method after your navigation bar and get rid of
the JS, it doesn't add any value

4)  Add a little more spacing between your nav and the next text, make your
text smaller and center your division better.

That should get you going on a page that you can work with and is
pleasing/interesting to those who are into the space thingy,  obviously
not me  grin


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Re: [WSG] re: Firefox v3 and opacity on opacity

2008-12-26 Thread Susan Grossman
 Does anyone using FFv3.05 on XP or Vista have mouse-over display issues
 with the code?

 If so, or not, what OS are you using?


 Yes - 3.05 on Vista and I get the hover problem. I was quite surprised?  I
 don't get it on any of the other browsers I'm running on Vista.





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Re: [WSG] Standards and Adobe Contribute

2008-11-03 Thread Susan Grossman
On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 5:53 AM, James Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi Guys,

 A client wants to use Adobe Contribute for content management.

 Is there any point writing standards complient code or will contribute
 butcher the code anyway?

 Can I use php at all with contribute? Would love to be able to include html
 files using php to avoid having to change loads of pages everytime
 navigation changes etc.

 James


I do free work for non-profits, and many of them ask about using
Contribute.  A CMS won't work for them because most of them have a small
existing website that they got someone to do at some point in the last few
years and they're trying to change it/add to it/figure out how to do
anything to it.  They aren't willing to start from scratch and have a CMS
set up for them, nor do the volunteers want to learn all about editing in a
role based application, no matter how easy it is.  These are the people who
Contribute is a lifesaver for.  I go in and clean up their stuff, make it
into PHP and design includes they can't accidently edit and show them how to
use Contribute by surfing to their web site and clicking the Contribute
button.  TaDa - they can edit, sans butchering.

Yes there are better solutions out there, but there's nothing wrong with
this solution.  I don't feel it's my job to tell them that I won't help them
unless they get on board with the latest and greatest.  I'm here to help
them make sure their web site is accessible and that they can change text on
the few pages they'll update.

For me, the client is always right.  They know their business, their people,
their limitations.  That doesn't mean I can't say, Yes, though we could
also do that by    but in the end, they make the final decisions and a
lot of the time I don't agree on everything, but they call the shots, and we
have to be gracious.  I try to teach as I go , but I don't force my clients
to learn if they don't want to.  And you might be surprised how many don't
want to.



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Re: [WSG] RE: Accessible date picker widget

2008-10-30 Thread Susan Grossman
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:38 AM, Chris Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Hi,

 This is the one I've used with good success:
 http://www.frequency-decoder.com/2006/10/02/unobtrusive-date-picker-widgit-update.
 It has a lot of options set from the CSS classes of an input type=text
 element.

 Chris



I  have also used the Unobtrusive date picker  on government projects with
no issues and recommend it.



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Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman

 I am in the process of working with a developer on a Drupal project and I
 was wondering if there was any Standards Compliant and/or Semantically
 Correct widgets for Drupal out there... specifically for dropdown navigation
 (which is a primary concern of mine) or other things...

 Thanks,

 Jim


I am currently working on a large Drupal project using lots of modules.   I
have created my own Theme that is 508 compliant (and semantic) that I use to
start with - headers, footers, content area titles, main site navigation
that is based off the Garland theme.No problem there.

Each module though that I work with I asses the code and then make
modifications to the base files if necessary to be compliant, and most times
it is necessary, though sometimes its only a couple of little things.   It's
not hard to do, but later upgrades are going to be a b---  so I document
every change hopefully to make it easier later on.

It also depends on what Ajax functionality you choose to use, or not use.
The more you use, the less compliant it becomes.

This is all so simplistic, don't know if any of it will help you.

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Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman
 Could someone tell me if the following use of rel and rev are semantically
 accurate?



 a href=#tandc rev=appendixTCs/a

 ...

 div id=tandc ... /div





 a href=tandc.html rel=appendixTCs/a





 I'm currently developing a pop-up method specifically for Terms 
 Conditions.

 One where the TCs are in a div at the bottom of the page and a second
 where an Ajax call fetches the external content.





 Thanks for reading



 Mike Foskett

 http://webSemantics.co.uk/


Since there are no standard values for rel, I think that microformats have
been using this for licensing, and probably others.  It's the relationship
of the link, and if the link is a type of appendix, then semantically I
don't see anything wrong with your use, though I would add a title tag
stating the link was going to open a pop-up, if that's the case.

rev is also a relationship, but not of the linked item, the other way
around.  If I was on a table of measurments and there was a link back to the
recipe, the link would have a rev defining that the measurments do you're on
is a dictionary for the recipe.  So I don't think your use of rev is
correct, or semantic.  If you were on the TC and had a link to the home
page, this link could have a rev.

at least that's the way I understand it.


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Re: [WSG] re: Semantic use of rel and rev in anchors

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis 
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 Susan Grossman wrote:

  Since there are no standard values for rel


 http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/types.html#h-6.12 are the standard link
 types for REL and REV. They are open to use with other values, as specified
 by a scheme specified by a PROFILE link on HEAD (not that PROFILE has seen
 much adoption).

 --
 Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis




Thanks - I'd forgotten about the profile.  Should've taken the time to look
it up and appreciate the correction.   Think I at least got right the usage
of rel and rev though   :)

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Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman



 Our core business is building sites with Drupal.  We focus on XHTML 1.0
 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New
 Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and
 various other considerations.  We've found Drupal to be remarkably
 pliable with regard to those changes.

 Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will
 definitely cause you maintenance headaches.  I would encourage you to
 learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of
 both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal
 world).


 cut



 Kind regards,

 Dave



Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the
modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them.

Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have to
do some changing to.  I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all modules
seem to be equal to me.  I'll take your suggestion and do more research and
see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done anything in multi-site
mode.


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Re: [WSG] Drupal - Standards Compliant and Crossbrowser Dropdown Navigation Widget?

2008-10-20 Thread Susan Grossman



 Our core business is building sites with Drupal.  We focus on XHTML 1.0
 strict compliance and are striving towards full adherence of the New
 Zealand e-government web guidelines which cover accessibility, and
 various other considerations.  We've found Drupal to be remarkably
 pliable with regard to those changes.

 Susan, the approach of altering modules that you described will
 definitely cause you maintenance headaches.  I would encourage you to
 learn as much as possible about Drupal's very sophisticated system of
 both theme and functionality overrides (called hooks in the Drupal
 world).


... cut



 Kind regards,

 Dave



Thanks Dave for the input on hooks, which I have used in a few of the
modules and they're real effective and I should've mentioned them.

Unfortunately some of the modules I'm trying to use I find I still have to
do some changing to.  I guess it's my lack of knowledge, but not all modules
seem to be equal to me.  I'll take your suggestion and do more research and
see how I can avoid this entirely, and I haven't done anything in multi-site
mode.


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Re: [WSG] labels as input wrappers + h6 in place of legend

2008-10-19 Thread Susan Grossman



 I have an obsession with web form styling - I cannot stand ugly web form
 :-)




 Fieldset, label and input tags are enough for basic and nice styling, no
 extra div needed.
 fieldset

legendspanContact Information/span/legend
label for=  xyz/label
input id=  type=checkbox class=add-a-class 
 /fieldset

 That is for the site I have full control and know I will be the only one
 updating the site. But if I make a template and the targeted users are
 people who want to build their sites, then definitely bloated divs to
 prevent customer service nightmare. I will even eliminate legend with a
 clear conscious. Alas! IE and Opera are not kind to form elements.

 tee




I use the same format as you do, but without the span in the legend.   take
it a step further though and give the form element itself and id and start
in my styles by calling that id.  First I define default styles for all
elements (I do use and believe in the css reset).  Then based on which form
it is, the attributes are adjusted as needed by the form id in the styles.
I have to consider accessibility since I do government stuff a lot, so
headings just don't do it.


   #FormID  #FieldsetID #whatever   {   whatever }




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Re: [WSG] Making an image come right up to a list

2008-07-30 Thread Susan Grossman
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Michael Horowitz 
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 Tried all the resettings and added the css to remove default margins from
 elements and still have the issue.

 Michael Horowitz
 Your Computer Consultant
 http://yourcomputerconsultant.com
 561-394-9079




Did you check to see if you 0 padding on your default image (if you have a
default img in style sheet)? I think I'd look at the specific image  and
default padding settings.


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Re: [WSG] Making an image come right up to a list

2008-07-30 Thread Susan Grossman
  I have a div within that div I have a menu set as a ul followed
   right underneath by an image.  Currently there is unwanted
space
   between the list elements and the image.  There doesn't
seem to be
   any padding or margins that would cause this.




It looks like you need to zero out the padding and margin on the default ul
in your style sheet


ul {
list-style-type:none;
}


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Re: [WSG] Making an image come right up to a list

2008-07-30 Thread Susan Grossman
Sure just put it up at http://horowitzfamily.net/   Also wondering why my
footer is so far down

Michael Horowitz

-
I think your footer is way down because
  1)  you have a height set of 650 on the left nav
   2)  You're clearing all floats and putting the fotter at the bottom
of everything at their full height



Susan


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Re: [WSG] w3c link checker

2008-01-08 Thread Susan Grossman

 
  http://search.cpan.org/dist/W3C-LinkChecker/
 

 i looked at the downlad file and it's a tar.gz.  i run windoze.  how would
 i install it on a windoze box?

 dwain


There's a free program  for unzipping that type of file.  Once the link
checker is unzipped it'll also work on windows


http://www.gzip.org/

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Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-26 Thread Susan Grossman
On Dec 26, 2007 7:31 AM, Erickson, Kevin (DOE) 
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 The BEST file compare software I have seen and used is the open source
 WinMerge http://winmerge.org/



I have been using  ExamDif for lots of years and haven't seen anything I
like better

http://www.prestosoft.com/edp_examdiff.asp

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Re: [WSG] Colors for web design

2007-12-14 Thread Susan Grossman
Anyone know a good online resource or book that discusses how to decide
 the best color combinations for use on the web.

 --
 Michael Horowitz


I like visuals and use sites like this for  color:
  http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html


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Re: [WSG] Web Standards Presentation

2007-11-27 Thread Susan Grossman
 Since this is the Web Standards group, I'd like to ask if some members
 would be willing to look over the information I have gathered and I am
 developing and would comment, critique, correct, etc. on everything I
 have presented.


Nice Start - though if I was talking Standards I'd also talk about Semantics


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Re: [WSG] Visual Design Of Websites

2007-07-11 Thread Susan Grossman

Here are some helpful links:

  Color Design:
http://www.sessions.edu/career_center/design_tools/color_calculator/index.asp
 and
 Color Theory:  http://www.color-wheel-pro.com/color-theory-basics.html

 Sample CSS Page Design Layouts for understanding how templates layout
design

 http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/page_layouts/
 http://css-discuss.incutio.com/?page=CssLayouts

Hope this helps - Susan



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 Hi.
just wondering, any one able to give advice, help, tips, tricks and
techniques.
now, failed my two visual design subjects in my web site design course.



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Re: [WSG] Who's A Front End Developer?

2007-07-05 Thread Susan Grossman



I would classify myself as a front-ender, but not because of my focus on
design work - or my greater aptitude in ecma, css and markup compared to
my php, asp or python. I think the greater qualification comes in
standards awareness and interest/participation in the development of
standards-concerned technologies.




Just 2cents fromt he application world.  I've been working with enterprise
web applications for several years and the distinctions are actually pretty
clear in our RFP's

I work as an Information Architect, UI Designer, a Web Designer, a Human
Factors Engineer and/or a Functional Analyst.

The Front End Developers do the jsp, struts, ruby, set up of
CVS/Perforce/Whatever, etc.

The back-enders (programmers) do database, hibernate, etc.

My end product is OO templates for the Front End Developers to use, with
the html/css  in a format meant to be served as headers, footer,
navigational division (for role based presentation) so that they only deal
with the content areas once the template parts are in the system.  I also do
all the wireframes, on one end and the html, css,  js, and a fully working
prototype that's used for reviews and by QA.


Susan


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[WSG] Opening a New Window for Print View (dif from a print style sheet)

2007-06-15 Thread Susan Grossman

Generally I use print stylesheets to handle all my print views, but I'm
working on an application that after they enter form data we're going to
offer them a print view that shows the data in a format that is the
legalstyle (I deal with mandates).

To do this I'm going to offer a link styled as a button that states  Print
View Window  so it's clear that I'm opening a new window.  My pages are
XHTML strict, tableless CSS and meet all the accessibility rules, actually I
went ahead and adjusted them to  WCAG Samurai Errata, and I'm using no hacks
or js at this time (it's a java ap).

I'm finally getting to my question on the best way to open a new window for
this now that the target tag isn't an option.  what are the suggested ways
to do this now and keep my pages clean?

I've read Berea St who is adamant on using js if you have to have a window,
though stating it should be avoided, and others who are just as opposed and
recommended only pure css pop-ups - which I don't want since i want full
browser menus for the user.

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Re: [WSG] stand alone blog software

2007-05-24 Thread Susan Grossman

I have happily used and hosted Moveable Type (
http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/) on my small servers for years.  The
updates when they come out install easily too and had no real learning
curve.  The templates are easy to customize to compliant, accessible  xhtml.

Susan

On 5/24/07, Michael MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I *want* to like Drupal. I really do.

same here

 When it's working, it's a beautiful thing. But I've recently had a lot
 of trouble installing the recent version. So much trouble that I gave up
 on it :(


I gave up because it was too slow on a high-traffic site on a busy shared
server where the bottleneck is the mysql queue.
.. way too many mysql statements run to do anything...  and using mysql
for
caching is a very bad idea - slows it down even more.

drupal is not unique there ... almost every off-the-shelf cms I've looked
at
has the same problem.

I'm hoping the new version is better but haven't tried it yet.




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Re: [WSG] ive given up on css

2007-05-16 Thread Susan Grossman

Today i just told them to go back to using table based layouts and i
will restrict my designs accordingly- i cant listen to the whining
anymore.

What would you have done in this situation?





Back to your original topic - the client is always right in the end.  You
can present white papers and expert opinions, but in the end the decision
the client makes stands.

Dumping the client doesn't seem to be a pro attitude, though it may be how
we feel  :)

I just wanted to emphasize that you did the right thing for the client, and
that's what it's all about as long as the code is valid and accessible.


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