Hi James, In addition to some of the ideas given, what about showing your lecturer some inspiring examples like CSS Zen Garden, and others? Hopefully he can also discover designing with css and standards, and really get into it. I had shown zen garden to a colleague few years ago - he got hooked and when he started teaching php development, he was on the web standards game having gained inspiration from css zen garden.
Sometimes changes cannot happen overnight, and sometimes the message is not welcome nor heard! But you can keep trying and chipping away ... and also enjoy the process without getting too overwhelmed by negativity from the other side. Cheers WL ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *******************************************************************