On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Kevin Ireson wrote:
Oh come on.
Surely you cannot dispute http://www.w3schools.com/ for the basics. Even
after all of these years. The fundamental concepts work.
I wouldn't trust w3schools.com (note that it has nothing to do with
On 4/5/11 7:31 PM, Webb, KerryA wrote:
You say (on that page):
The alt attribute is mandatory, not just good practice.
It's not, you know. For decorative images, it's not even recommended.
via http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#edef-IMG --
Thanks for asking those questions, Russ, and checking with users of
assistive technologies. I also wondered how moving from an open standard
to a proprietary one would help anyone with anything...
Perhaps because not everyone would agree with Russ' blind user, and they might
On 09/02/11 16:55, Russ Weakley wrote:
Hi Kerry. Neither the blind user or I were suggesting that
alternatives were not a good idea, or even a requirement. I'd always
recommend providing an HTML alternative if possible along with
accessible (tagged) PDF. The question was
On 10 Nov 2010, at 22:34, cat soul wrote:
Any thoughts on which we ought to be using
HTML, since it works in IE 9 without having to pretend it is HTML.
4.01, since it is a stable recommendation with mature QA tools (unless you
have a need for features added in HTML5 and are willing to
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
On Behalf Of Sue Choong
Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 9:31 AM
Subject: [WSG] Accessibility in Australia
Is it mandatory for all australian websites to be
I see that the Australian government has required all government
agency web sites to be WCAG 2.0 compliant by 2015.
I work for a non profit organisation that receives government funding, but
I am unaware of our
Please note that whilst you may not go to jail for failing to provide
accessibility aspects and compliance within a website, you may be held
responsible and found negligent and be required to pay compensation as
directed by a court of law.
Ref case : Maguire vs. SOCOG
At 2/3/2010 02:47 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote:
You should check the Top of page links on the Recipes page. They each
seem to go to the start of the previous recipe rather than to the top of
the Web page.
I need to write a web style guide for our web site. Does anyone know
any good examples I could draw inspiration from?
You'll find a lot of government guides online, such as
I find that Russ's list and that of Laura Carlson usually provide
something useful each week.
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Lucl...@dzinelabs.com wrote:
Good afternoon list,
Does anybody know if their exists a list of what is required in terms of
features for each country (governments)?
here in Australia we have a
Andrew Stewart said:
It is clear that a publicly funded website like that for the Olympic
Games should be accessible, but are you suggesting that the same rules
should apply to a high-school student doing a website for a school
project? - again another tough line to draw. The scale of the
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org]
Behalf Of Matt Morgan-May
Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2009 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: # Re: [WSG] Beta Testers Needed for BCAT
Adobe could do a better job, the
If you were to be prosecuted the court (or more likely
HREOC/Administrative Appeals Tribunal before it got to court) would
consider what measures could be taken without imposing undue hardship
upon the service provider to ensure that equitable access is available
Johan Douma wrote:
Flash is on 99.9% of the computers.
Which is the sort of claim made often by Adobe.
But, if we're talking about a recent version of Flash on 99.9% of
computers, that's a different matter.
Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been
raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta.
Isn't that what beta is for - to get feedback for further development?
And Gmail is still in beta after several years.
Michael MD wrote:
also - don't assume everyone's browser has flash player.
eg: mobile phones - some of the more recent models *might* have a
flash player ... which btw might handle flash 6 content! - ok maybe
iPhone can do better .. but honestly how many of those do you see
I also like the way you have not gone with the basic skip to content
link and gone with a quick skip to menu, I have been advocating a
similar approach that integrates access key's into these menu's as
Is there a reason for not using 'accesskey' at all?
I'm not Mike,
I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfront. I am
really interested in some feedback.
Here is an example website which I think is pretty good
It prompts you to download Flash 9 - which people on locked-down
That one person may find the sitemap useful does not mean that the
navigation is broken - all that we do know for sure is that one person
likes to use the sitemap.
If everyone uses the sitemap, then the navigation could well use some
Similarly - if
. . .
It's very, very difficult to defend the Target site, it's an unusable
so I don't use it, but Target does have the right to have a bad site.
Not if they lose this case, they don't.
So I wonder, how many people on this list are in the commercial sector
and how many are in the non-profit / public / government / education
More importantly, how would you classify yourself g
I work at one of the those government places that has those horrible
pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I couldnt agree
And I work with people who build such sites, and I don't have a problem
with PDFs per se.
If that's an efficient and effective way
There is a very strange instance of a navigation link not working on one
particular page - the products.html page link back to HOME. All other pages
seem to be OK.
It does work in IE and Opera but not in FX or Safari. Can anyone see why this
should be so?
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ditto - love it. an amazing achievement to get that up and out. i
particularly like the nice little attention to detail like the css
hovers/icons on the links and the inline video. the video section
itself is hot
and Kerry, how do you make the pdf accessible???
There are some pointers here
(noting the accessibility is relative, not absolute - so probably I
should have said more accessible)
I would disagree. I believe the pdf and word issue dates back to 1999 or so,
when you needed to upgrade to the latest and greatest of JAWS at considerable
cost to fully access pdfs. Things have changed in 8 years. Now you can access
pdfs with almost any screenreader (that is
I would really appreciate if any tell me what is the term called
It means relating to meaning. To give an example, some tags in HTML
relate to presentation, like i or b but they don't really tell you
anything about the meaning of the text that they refer to.
I'm looking at a design involving image thumbnails and the instruction
to click images for larger version -- I have the idea that saying
click is wrong, or rather the assumption that everyone is using a
mouse is wrong.
So, how would you word this instruction, or otherwise
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