RE: [WSG] Table borders

2011-09-30 Thread michael.brockington
Have you tried making the border colour (for just that one cell) to be white, or transparent, or whatever matches the background? Regards, Michael From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Grant Bailey Sent: 30 September 2011 10:01 To:

RE: [WSG] A simple IE and JS detection method?

2010-11-01 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Thierry Koblentz Sent: 30 October 2010 20:30 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] A simple IE and JS detection method? snip On the second pahe I've checked

RE: [WSG] ems versus pixels

2010-07-20 Thread michael.brockington
The basic plan that I follow is to use % for structural items, which generally need to be proportional to other structural items, and ultimately the viewport itself. Then, pixels purely for borders and images, And EMs only for text. Margins and padding can be either pixels, EMs or % depending

RE: [WSG] Yes/No structure?

2010-06-04 Thread michael.brockington
There is actually a fourth option, which is a pair of buttons, which is a good idea if both choices require an action, such as feeding on to a different form, or if this is the last action of the form. For me, the main thing to think about is 'negative responses' - with a radio button you get

RE: [WSG] JQuery Scripts not loading in IE7?

2009-12-04 Thread michael.brockington
When I look at your homepage in IE7, the first image in the sequence loads correctly, but then the slideshow continues with images that are less than an inch wide, at the top left of their container. Was this what you meant about it being broken; I noticed a second email that implied the whole

RE: [WSG] [OT] Google search/index/webmaster help

2009-11-02 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Philippe Wittenbergh Sent: 01 November 2009 23:05 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] [OT] Google search/index/webmaster help Because that file is being served as

RE: [WSG] Converting CSS / Design into Pre-Set HTML widget code

2009-10-12 Thread michael.brockington
Not sure that I understand the question, but none of the CSS that you show here applies to the code snippet that you included: they have no classes in common. Regards, Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist www.calcResult.com www.stephanieBlakey.me.uk www.edinburgh.gov.uk This

RE: [WSG] CSS list-style

2009-10-07 Thread michael.brockington
Chris, I am not sure what system you tested this on, but it doesn't work on any system I tried, and indeed it shouldn't: the marker is a part of the LI not of the UL. Regards, Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist www.calcResult.com www.stephanieBlakey.me.uk www.edinburgh.gov.uk

RE: [WSG] Back to basics!

2009-07-10 Thread michael.brockington
One of the main points of using Unicode is that you don't need to use entities, other than for a handful of chars used by HTML. I always keep a good reference handy, so that I can copy and paste straight into my files, the one I use is:

RE: [WSG] Accessible websites

2009-07-03 Thread michael.brockington
I don't really see how the ability to download fonts (that is what you are talking about, isn't it?), will affect web accessibility significantly. It will have a big impact on design, but the technological change surely only affects the back-end of the web browser, not the actual display. PS I

RE: [WSG] My best practice HTML sheet

2009-06-26 Thread michael.brockington
The link to the PDF version has an extra folder in it, that should not be there, the actual link to the PDF is: http://keryx.se/resources/html-elements.pdf Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Keryx Web

RE: [WSG] internet explorer 8 problems

2009-06-23 Thread michael.brockington
Marvin, Have you been able to confirm whether this is actually a problem with the display of your page, or a problem with the way that Jaws is interacting with IE ? It might be that the font _is_ Times, but Jaws is mis-leading you. Not too sure what else you would be able to 'see', but have you

RE: [WSG] no scrollbars in ff

2009-06-09 Thread michael.brockington
Kevin, I think that was meant to be a hint that we might be able to debug your code if we could see some of it - very few of us enjoy the extra challenge of 'working blind'. Mike -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of

RE: [WSG] Image mapping standards question

2009-06-02 Thread michael.brockington
Judging by the lack of responses, I am probably not the only one who didn't understand your question. Particularly, you seem to be using the term 'image mapping' to mean something other than using an image-map element, but I'm not aware of a standard technique for this. Regards, Mike

RE: [WSG] Span within a li

2009-05-11 Thread michael.brockington
There must be more to this than what you have said, because: Li.item361 a span { what:ever; } Should work okay, indeed is probably too verbose/explicit. Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist www.calcResult.com www.stephanieBlakey.me.uk www.edinburgh.gov.uk This message does not

RE: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-24 Thread michael.brockington
Personally, I think there should have been a companion article explaining why designers can't write code. This is a classic example: the whole point of setting the base font size to this value is to make the maths easier when sizing all other font rules; but that itself exposes the fact that the

RE: [WSG] Box model in IE7

2009-04-24 Thread michael.brockington
Tee, My original comment was meant to be taken light-heartedly, but was also taken in direct response to the article quoted by CK: Why Programmers Suck at CSS Design http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/linotype/news/169/ Your comment itself seems to be contradicting itself: If developers _are_

RE: [WSG] Where is browser compatibility in wcag?

2009-04-08 Thread michael.brockington
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 1:31 AM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] aboeh...@addictivemedia.com.au wrote: I went through WCAG 1 and WCAG 2, and I expected an appropriate guideline to show up under Priority 1 (or Level A), but nothing. Or am I missing something in the obscure

RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-04-07 Thread michael.brockington
For the record, the problem that I was having seems to be limited to one installation - everyone else who has tested this has had no issues, so I am going to assume that there _isn't_ anything wrong with my code until proved otherwise. Mike -Original Message- From:

RE: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix

2009-04-02 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org on behalf of Gunlaug Sørtun Sent: Thu 4/2/2009 6:15 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE7 CSS fix It's far more reliable than CSS hacks, which may cause problems in future browsers. I don't agree with that

RE: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-26 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris F.A. Johnson Sent: 25 March 2009 18:03 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 compatibility mode On Wed, 25 Mar 2009, Gunlaug S?rtun wrote: The start html tag is

[WSG] IE8 compatibility mode

2009-03-25 Thread michael.brockington
Hi, One of the very first pages that I tested in the released version of IE8 was: http://www.calcresult.com/reference/text/unicode-reference.html The rendering of that page is slightly broken (at the moment) in IE6 and IE7 in that the right-hand column overlaps some of the content. What confused

RE: [WSG] Testing in IE7 both Win XP and Vista

2009-03-16 Thread michael.brockington
The only difference that you are likely to see is going to be due to a different set of default fonts - iirc a few more were introduced with Vista. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Peter Mount Sent: 15

RE: [WSG] Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator 1.0 Released!

2009-03-13 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Kay in t Veen - Gmail Sent: 13 March 2009 10:59 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Illinois Functional Web Accessibility Evaluator 1.0 Released! double h1 tags are never

RE: [WSG] a WCAG 2.0 question

2009-03-12 Thread michael.brockington
I believe a best practice is for your web pages to use the same TARGET attribute value so links from your page basically are updating the same new window and not creating a new window for every link followed from your website. Jon I would have to disagree with that. If the user actually

RE: [WSG] Javascript Accessibility

2009-03-02 Thread michael.brockington
David, I think you are reading things differently to me. I don't know the authors true intention, but I read his words as being a call for anyone who wants to see ARIA implemented to join their team, not necessarily someone who is on the ARIA team. I do also agree with the sentiments though -

RE: [WSG] Safari 4 and 3.2 Running Simultaneously

2009-02-26 Thread michael.brockington
Sounds like a case for a virtual machine, both the Microsoft and VMWare products are free. Mike From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Brett Patterson Sent: 26 February 2009 15:21 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] Classes---Adding multiple classes to an element, is there a downfall???

2009-02-24 Thread michael.brockington
In my own personal opinion, if you get into the situation where you want to use a selector like: .class1.class2 { stuff } then it is time to do a little re-factoring. The whole point of allowing an element to have two or more classes is so that each class remains semantically logical. As you

RE: [WSG] IE and the button element

2009-02-23 Thread michael.brockington
That's part of why I posed it as a question, not as a statement. Though, from what I recall, part of the problem was that the mechanism of a DTD was not capable of making such a requirement, and the DTD was regarded as more definitive than the written spec. Mike -Original Message-

RE: [WSG] Failed A Job :(

2009-01-30 Thread michael.brockington
Not to mention optimum line lengths, amount of whitespace, justification ... It is unfortunately far too common to assume that lessons learned centuries ago are no longer relevant, just because they weren't digital. Actually, that was one of the big changes then: type was inherently fixed-width,

RE: [WSG] JavaScript and Accessibility

2009-01-19 Thread michael.brockington
There were a couple of articles on SitePoint (if I recall correctly) six months ago or so, that covered this, in a fairly positive light. I'm afraid I'm not in a position to chase after them right now; perhaps someone else does have the time? Mike

RE: [WSG] css Help Please

2009-01-12 Thread michael.brockington
Marvin, It is a little hard for us to help you when you do not include the offending source code. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Marvin Hunkin Sent: 12 January 2009 01:37 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: # Re: [WSG] Beta Testers Needed for BCAT

2009-01-12 Thread michael.brockington
Quote: The fact is that many educators have found that they can use Flash to teach their students effectively. I think you (and those teachers that you refer to) are mistaking an effective lesson, for effective teaching.* Also, I think you mis-understand where the problem lies. Because of the

RE: [WSG] Chrome and Safari render the same...or do they?

2009-01-09 Thread michael.brockington
To my eyes, the reason is that the font itself is larger on the right hand side. Naturally this will give a larger line-height, unless you have specified otherwise. Regards, Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist www.calcResult.com www.stephanieBlakey.me.uk www.edinburgh.gov.uk This

RE: [WSG] Beta Testers Needed for BCAT

2009-01-08 Thread michael.brockington
I think you may have missed the point of the earlier question - What can flash bring to the learning environment that cannot be done with HTML, CSS and JavaScript? Regards, Mike PS: Please print and keep this email, as all paper these days comes from managed forests, and therefore more trees

RE: [WSG] Chrome and Safari render the same...or do they?

2009-01-08 Thread michael.brockington
Any script that relies on an array being ordered, without actually doing a sort() is seriously deficient. As you mentioned yourself, this behaviour is entirely in agreement with the JS spec. Regards, Mike From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] issues with too many divs

2009-01-07 Thread michael.brockington
Do the additional wrapper divs make as much difference to the page weight as the images that you imply are also required? Eleven extra bytes is generally nothing compared to an additional image. Unless you are adding them in four-figure quantities, no amount of DIVs are likely to cause a problem

RE: [WSG] inline-block effect

2008-12-02 Thread michael.brockington
I suspect that the OP miss-stated the problem. From my understanding, he wants the BGcolor to extend for _only_ the width of the TEXT, not for the entire width of the element. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Tue 12/2/2008

RE: [WSG] Fw: The Great Firewall of Australia

2008-11-27 Thread michael.brockington
I am hoping that the live testing/trial that will be carried out early next year just shows that this is technically unfeasible. It is quite stupid to be filtering the internet for everyone in Australia, when it is much simpler to be done on each individual PC through the use of software

RE: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-26 Thread michael.brockington
Now I am even more confused! I was always under the impression that HTML4 and lower were valid SGML. That XHTML1 and up were valid XML That XML was valid SGML So how the ??? does that leave us with either 'serialisation' of the new language being in-compatible with SGML? Regards, Mike

RE: [WSG] HTML/XHTML/XML - Question about the future of.

2008-11-26 Thread michael.brockington
The HTML working group is working on HTML5 which will have two serialisations. A tag soup (and emphatically not SGML) serialisation and an XML serialisation (which they are referring to as XHTML5). Why do you say that HTML5 will not be valid SGML? Mike

RE: [WSG] your best practise for CSS sprites for elements that have no height declared

2008-11-24 Thread michael.brockington
If I remember rightly if you are able to save the image with a transparent background it keeps the file size lower because a transparent pixel takes less space than a pixel with colour information. It may be possible to get better compression on a file that contains lots of pixels of the

RE: [WSG] Animated gifs

2008-11-21 Thread michael.brockington
Not sure if it would help in this instance, but what about splitting this into two files: load a transparent-background logo to quickly load in front, with the ripples as a background? You may then be able to tile the background to save a little. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [WSG] li hover bg preloader

2008-11-10 Thread michael.brockington
Unless it is a new extension that I have never heard of, there is no such thing as 'rollover' in JavaScript. /correct-pedant Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Ortenzi Sent: 08 November 2008 03:53 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org

RE: [WSG] Who are the Away on leave Notices from? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2008-11-06 Thread michael.brockington
That would (probably) be part of the wonders of 'Threaded' view in Outlook: the 'Thread Closed' message is always filed in a different place from the thread that you are reading! Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimantas Liubertas

RE: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-28 Thread michael.brockington
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Patterson Sent: 28 October 2008 12:35 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please When you say support, are you saying that Internet Explorer will not execute JavaScript, or it will

RE: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please

2008-10-24 Thread michael.brockington
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Patterson Sent: 24 October 2008 02:25 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] JavaScript clarification please Oh, most definitely agreed. Sorry if I started an argument, I only wanted to know what it was. I

RE: [WSG] WCAG2 in general

2008-09-30 Thread michael.brockington
Does anyone think that WCAG 2.0 will improve the user experience? Or do you take my view that it only benefits developers, and that the user experience will be worse in future? _Personally_ I think that it is basically a retrograde step. Version one was too complex for most people to fully

RE: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-29 Thread michael.brockington
Really? I'll give you ten to one that the majority of PC users have no idea what that key does. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ? ??? Sent: 29 September 2008 10:16 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re:

RE: [WSG] Is it a good practice to have 'Back to Top' link?

2008-09-29 Thread michael.brockington
That is a different story though: we are not talking about _replacing_ the home key with a link, we are talking about implementing additional affordance - if the user does not recognise it, or prefers to do things differently, then nothing is lost. Whether the additional noise on the page is a

RE: [WSG] Learning Javascript properly

2008-09-18 Thread michael.brockington
I think that is going to depend a lot on what you are trying to do with your JS knowledge: are we talking about animation, AJAX or something entirely different? Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Sent: 18 September 2008

RE: [WSG] An interesting take....

2008-09-12 Thread michael.brockington
It really feels as if we need a standards process that is much more agile and iterative. Something that is much less monolithic. If WHATWG and the W3C are unable to do this, the browser vendors -- and the market -- will. -jeff I'm not sure if I said it here before or not, but I

RE: [WSG] Facebook downgrading support for IE6

2008-09-03 Thread michael.brockington
I would also like to point out that Facebook have a different business model from the majority of web sites - they have little to loose by excluding IE6 - they are not a shop, they are not trying to break into an existing market, they have a greater bias towards the home user than the corporate,

RE: [WSG] Figures out issues. Standards for troubleshooting css

2008-09-01 Thread michael.brockington
Many people have some sort of reset stylesheet, that turns on a border for every div or every element. The 'perfect' version of this idea can get very complex, but something as simple as setting a border on all divs can often show you where something is stretching or floating where you were not

RE: [WSG] E649: The default scripting language must be specified for an intrinsic event:

2008-09-01 Thread michael.brockington
I think you will find that this has no direct effect on accessibility. As I am sure you know, if you rely on these methods for navigation, or if that select isn't made keyboard-friendly, then that is a problem, but inline JavaScript on its own is fine. In some circumstances it is better to have it

RE: [WSG] Code for Firefox, hack for IE

2008-09-01 Thread michael.brockington
This is how I work, but mainly for pragmatic reasons: Better JavaScript de-bugging tools in FireFox. Better CSS support, therefore fewer problems out of the box, and better stylesheet analysis tools. Finally, the one good reason: anything that needs to be fixed for IE can be done with conditional

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-28 Thread michael.brockington
Besides, images maps are a royal pain to maintain. -Tim Not as much of a pain as some of the faux-image-maps that I have seen done with 'pure css' or even css + JavaScript. There are tools out there that make true image-maps point-and-click simple, whereas a small change to some of the

RE: [WSG] H1 and the img tag

2008-08-26 Thread michael.brockington
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam Sherlock Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 2:17 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] H1 and the img tag ok - seo is a bit like voodoo to me the following sites seem to be contray to suggestion

RE: [WSG] Shopping cart - who does what

2008-08-15 Thread michael.brockington
An individual who brings a case under the DDA can seek monetary compensation. However, the law is supposed to be a last resort, and users are expected to give the website owner the opportunity to make the website accessible before resorting to law. Failure to do so suggests that the plaintiff

RE: [WSG] Acceptable autoplay of music

2008-08-15 Thread michael.brockington
On a more positive note - you could point out that having an embedded player would allow the band to offer the user a choice of music, which would be a better option than alienating many users. (Offering a client a 'better option' usually goes down a lot better than 'don't do that!') From an

RE: [WSG] Tables for product=price list

2008-08-11 Thread michael.brockington
Calm down everyone! In this case, though no doubt someone can find a dictionary that disagrees with me, a list could usually be said to be synonymous with a 'single column table' and conversely, a data table is a set of parallel lists - they are both special cases of each other. On that basis, I

RE: [WSG] Correct markup of fieldset

2008-08-08 Thread michael.brockington
To my mind, one of the most pressing questions that needs to be answered in any particular case is: How is the fieldset labelled? If it specifically says something like 'postcode' or maybe 'contact details', and is one of a collection of fieldsets, then the button should probably be outside. If

RE: IE6 support - was - Re: [WSG] What is the best solution for IE6 png issue?

2008-08-04 Thread michael.brockington
Not wanting to hijack the PNG thread, so I've altered the subject. I understand the issues involve in huge migrations, it's not that easy.. At the risk of starting a war, it doesn't sound like you do understand. Before even starting to plan a migration, any decent corporation, of whatever

RE: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height

2008-07-18 Thread michael.brockington
Sorry folks, but am I missing something here? Why do you think that it is important to stuff something invisible inside an (otherwise) empty div? Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hucklesby Sent: Thursday, July 17,

RE: [WSG] firefox treatment of wrapper overflow height

2008-07-18 Thread michael.brockington
Not the clearing div, I know what that is for!! What is the _content_ of the div supposed to do, that an truly empty div would not? Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kevin mcmonagle Sent: Friday, July 18, 2008 10:33 AM To:

RE: [WSG] AJAX and Clickable Elements

2008-07-18 Thread michael.brockington
I have a similar issue with www.calcResult.com: everything is done with JavaScript, but what I do is make all forms link to a page explaining that the site requires JavaScript, and why. Sometimes I see that page when a script I am working on fails, but even that is arguably better than nothing

RE: [WSG] Semantic markup of a byline date/time

2008-07-17 Thread michael.brockington
I may be wrong, but your use of cite looks the wrong way around - surely a citation should point at a document? Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jens-Uwe Korff Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52 AM To:

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

2008-07-04 Thread michael.brockington
At the end of the day, this whole question is a no-brainer: On the one hand you can annoy [a few .. most] people by forcing them to scroll horizontally, Or you can keep everyone happy by not allowing a horizontal scroll bar. Whether it is a major issue or a trivial issue is irrelevant as there is

RE: [WSG] Browsers and Zooming

2008-07-03 Thread michael.brockington
Yes, a similar criticism has been levelled at Elastic layouts -- that when you enlarge the text the layout grows with it, I think you meant to say MAY grow - a carefully designed elastic layout will not expand the viewport horizontally. Mike Mike Brockington Web Development Specialist

RE: [WSG] Firefox 3 and script tag 'problems'

2008-06-24 Thread michael.brockington
Does anyone have an example of this behaviour? Not quite sure I follow the issue... Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ken McInnes Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:55 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Firefox 3

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread michael.brockington
Rubbish. I have plenty of experience of commercial-grade spam filters, and when 95% of received mail is spam, you don't have a hope of getting it all, unless you want to block a significant portion of legitimate mail as well. Mike From: [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread michael.brockington
Michael, In many ways we are the lucky ones - if you are doing SQL server day to day, or pretty much anything other than HTML then there are no standards at all - just 'on time/budget' or 'not/fired'. Stuff like SOX has given some impetus to doing things 'the right way' instead of the quick way,

RE: [WSG] a good practise for adding email link (mailto)?

2008-06-16 Thread michael.brockington
So does everyone agree that the form is the best option for entire cross - situation compatibility? James I think that is really an individual decision - a simple contact form on its own has a number of usability issues, which are well documented elsewhere. For the user there is the lack of

RE: [WSG] MA in web development

2008-06-12 Thread michael.brockington
What kind of students will the course be aimed at? Arts graduates? Scientists? Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Grant Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 11:31 PM To: wsg Subject: [WSG]

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread michael.brockington
My take on this, is that IT ALL DEPENDS ! Every site is different. For example: www.calcresult.com does not use a traditional image-based logo, so the arguments that the site logo is 'just a simple image' fails completely. Some sites look a bit like a newspaper. Newspapers themselves vary

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread michael.brockington
If you want to look at things from that angle, then we have to make a split between what the user wants - news, information, entertainment, etc. what the commissioner wants, and what the search engines want. All sites on the web arguable fall into one of three categories: Hobby sites, Businesses,

RE: [WSG] Marking up company logo

2008-05-30 Thread michael.brockington
But does two H1's in a row really agree with the spec? My understanding was that a sub-level could repeat immediately, but H1's were not supposed to. For example: Okay: H1 H2 H2 H3 H1 H2 Bad: H1 H1 Regards, Mike That's a good point and it may explain the ALA's approach: h1The

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-26 Thread michael.brockington
Thierry, I think your misunderstanding lies earlier than my last post. If someone wishes to use an abbr tag in the way that it was intended by the spec, then that is perfectly acceptable, obviously. If their scripting then fails in IE they have three clear choices - write a more robust script,

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-23 Thread michael.brockington
No, its not. In this case, if any single browser breaks a related script, then the mark-up cannot be used - working on the majority is not enough to make it viable. Does that mean we should drop the ABBR element because IE can't handle it properly? In what way is that the same as the

RE: [WSG] accessibility/usability in a poll: check a radio button when focusing on a text input field

2008-05-23 Thread michael.brockington
It MIGHT be possible to use CSS alone to show/hide the text field depending on the last option being clicked, but it would need a lot of testing. It would certainly be far easier to do this in JS, and as this is only an enhancement, not required functionality, I don't see an issue with doing

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-22 Thread michael.brockington
Judging by how quickly you replied, I am doubtful that you managed to test every browser version known to mankind before you replied - one or two combinations doesn't really make effective proof! In any case, is this just a case of the browser inserting what it thinks should be there, as with

RE: [WSG] a question concering shopping cart function (somewhat usability issue I think)

2008-05-22 Thread michael.brockington
My advice would be to try as hard as you can NOT to sell accessibility. Sell your overall services, but mention that your competitors 'tend' to leave their customers vulnerable to law suits, exclude customers for no good reason, etc. Tell your clients that your competitors are literally

RE: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural markup

2008-05-22 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hassan Schroeder Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 2:27 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Fwd: using fieldsets and legends (outside a form) for adding structural mark-up Au contraire, one is

RE: [WSG] Accessibility for HTML Email

2008-05-16 Thread michael.brockington
I'm guessing you don't actually administer a corporate size spam-filtering 'solution' do you? (The word solution should really be in quadruple quotes, 'cos it ain't one.) Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick H. Lauke Sent:

RE: [WSG] [OT] users - IT literate?

2008-05-16 Thread michael.brockington
Have to disagree with you there - just because some people do it for a good reason doesn't mean that the illiterate aren't. Certain people that I know, type the full, exact URL for a site into the Google search box in the middle of the page, wait for the results to load, then click the first link

RE: [WSG] [OT] Posting [was:Best way to hide form legends?]

2008-05-01 Thread michael.brockington
Maybe for you, but for many of us, a carefully edited reply makes perfect sense. Failing to ever truncate a conversation may be wasteful, but even then, by top-posting you allow people to easily check previous messages that have since been deleted. The message that you are quoting was neither

RE: [WSG] valid video in (x)html?

2008-04-30 Thread michael.brockington
And if JavaScript is turned off? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Persson Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:37 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] valid video in (x)html? My experience tells that Videos and

RE: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare

2008-04-29 Thread michael.brockington
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Jeffery Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:23 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare snip What developer on this planet is going to take advantage of a feature thats been put

RE: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare

2008-04-29 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Harris Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 10:48 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] IE8 beta's a nightmare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That would be pragmatic Intranet developers, who know

RE: Re[2]: [WSG] accessible client side form validation

2008-04-24 Thread michael.brockington
If I may be permitted to be pedantic for a moment, I believe that JavaScript may be used to provide Assistance with Validation (So you are both correct...) Security can only ever be _reliably_ provided on the server side, but validation of user input is perfectly acceptable as client side code,

RE: [WSG] accessibility and brower compatibility for Kiosk mode?

2008-04-22 Thread michael.brockington
In a word, Yes. Some people will try and drag the 'thumb' of the bar, which as I mentioned last time may not be possible at all. Others will just try and use the up and down arrows, which could be painful for a long list, especially if the calibration of the touchscreen is at all problematic

RE: [WSG] accessibility and brower compatibility for Kiosk mode?

2008-04-17 Thread michael.brockington
Please help me with another question, with multiple list menu, we use 'ctrl' and 'Ctrl + shift' to select multiple options, how does this work with touch screen? tee Unless you have a keyboard, it probably doesn't work. Some touchscreens (try) to let you do dragging and stuff, but I think

RE: [WSG] accessibility and brower compatibility for Kiosk mode?

2008-04-16 Thread michael.brockington
Tee, It sounds like you are having a bit of difficulty with the 'Accessibility' label here: Accessibility is just one branch of Usability, neither of which ever go away completely. I used to do quite a lot of touch-screen kiosk development, but I know that things have moved on a little since

RE: [WSG] accessibility and brower compatibility for Kiosk mode?

2008-04-16 Thread michael.brockington
2) Is there anything I can use to replace the checkbox for the Kiosk? It needs to be large but from my testing, I can't make it larger by adding paddings, width and height. Not to mention this won't work with Safari and Camino (they have another web version for the same section ) Have you

RE: [WSG] How to make diagonal lines change color?

2008-04-11 Thread michael.brockington
Do I understand this right: you want the background to change, as the mouse passes over one of these diagonal lines - or just when the user mouses over any part of the background? Mike From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [WSG] How to make diagonal lines change color?

2008-04-11 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stuart Foulstone Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 9:40 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] How to make diagonal lines change colour? Hi, From a usability and accessibility point of view doing

RE: [WSG] How to make diagonal lines change color?

2008-04-11 Thread michael.brockington
That sounds very complex to achieve, if it is possible: As things stand, the lines you are talking about don't actually exist, they are an artefact of the tiled bb image you are using (nb, the effect was too subtle for me to see on the first machine I viewed your site on) - to do what you

[WSG] RE: NVU

2008-04-08 Thread michael.brockington
Don't mean to be negative, but NVU is a pretty poor choice: even its own home page admits that! (Last release was 2005, and that should never have been classed as version 1, and no development work being undertaken.) As far as I can see, the best choice on the open source route is SeaMonkey.

RE: [WSG] Dreamweaver8

2008-04-07 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] one thing I miss about dreamweaver is that you can do a 'search all' and get a list of all instances of the thing you are searching for rather than cycling through a 'find...find...find...' list. So far it's the only program I've used that

RE: [WSG] Software to read aloud web pages (targetted at literacy issues not vision issues)

2008-04-04 Thread michael.brockington
This has been possible on every Apple Mac for the last fifteen years or so, and you have the option of changing the voice if you want, unfortunately the good versions that are available for Windows are all relatively expensive. Regards, Mike -Original Message- Someone's asked me about

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