Re: [WSG] :hover accessibility

2003-12-05 Thread Adam Carmichael
Tonico Strasser wrote:

Ben Boyle wrote:

where's the keyboard support?
I think that is left to the user agent. Most of the time it will be for 
mouse rollovers, however if someone comes up with a holographic 
interface (or whatever) it will be different (such as if the user can 
play hopscotch on the webpage then it will be when they are over the 
element).

:focus is a good choice for keyboard navigation. I think it works in Moz 
and Safari but not in IE and Opera (not sure).
I just tested :focus in Opera 7.20-win32 on a form element, and it gave 
me the desired effect first time (change of background colour, change of 
4 border colours).

I am going to probably use :focus in conjunction with :hover on all my 
forms now.

Thanks Tonico!

Just a bit of semi on-topic information:
element/method  msie-6.0.2800.1106  mozilla-0.7.1   opera-7.20
input:focus broken  works   works
input:hover broken  works   works
(excuse the tab separated values - next time i'll publish it online and 
place a link).

Adam
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[WSG] :hover accessibility

2003-12-02 Thread Ben Boyle


does anyone else feel that :hover is a little too enticing and likely to
lead to some accessibility issues? depends on what you're using it for of
course, rollover images is a non-issue, but for things like rollover menus,
where's the keyboard support?

just a random thought.

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Re: [WSG] :hover accessibility

2003-12-02 Thread Tonico Strasser
Ben Boyle wrote:

does anyone else feel that :hover is a little too enticing and likely to
lead to some accessibility issues? depends on what you're using it for of
course, rollover images is a non-issue, but for things like rollover menus,
where's the keyboard support?
:focus is a good choice for keyboard navigation. I think it works in Moz 
and Safari but not in IE and Opera (not sure).

Tonico

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Re: [WSG] :hover accessibility

2003-12-02 Thread Moose

does anyone else feel that :hover is a little too enticing and likely to
lead to some accessibility issues?
No. I seriously hope this part of CSS doesn't get blacklisted as 
inaccessible.

depends on what you're using it for of course,
Exactly. Any tool can be misused in a variety of ways. There is no 
inherent trouble with rope, per se. Yet it can be deadly, if used in a 
certain way...

rollover images is a non-issue, but for things like rollover menus, 
where's the keyboard support?
As long as there is at least one equivalent alternative navigation method 
provided, rollover menus don't hurt, but only add a layer of functionality 
for a subset of users.

M.

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[WSG] :hover accessibility

2003-12-02 Thread Ben Boyle

does anyone else feel that :hover is a little too enticing and likely to
lead to some accessibility issues? depends on what you're using it for of
course, rollover images is a non-issue, but for things like rollover menus,
where's the keyboard support?

just a random thought.

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