Re: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet
On Sep 9, 2004, at 12:56 pm, Felix Miata wrote: Now that you've done that, you should see that user css is really only for people who understand css and have the time to apply it on the user side, so few that it is really nothing any web designer needs to spend more than two seconds pondering. Then you install Omniweb 5.0 for OS X, and discover that it offers an interface to create user styles on a per site basis (allowing/disallowing javascript, resetting colours and background colours, font-size,.) [1]. I'm pretty sure Opera isn't far behind on this, judging by calls from Opera users. Gecko lacks this, for now, as far as an user interface is concerned, although some people are working on this as well. The important thing is - when you design a site, factor in the possibility that users will have different settings than yours. (even simply via the browser preferences : allow sites to set font-family of font-size on/off). [1] granted, it is not as powerful as full blown user stylesheet, but as Felix notes, only a few users are capable to manage a user stylesheet. Philippe ---/--- Philippe Wittenbergh now live : http://emps.l-c-n.com/ code | design | web projects : http://www.l-c-n.com/ IE5 Mac bugs and oddities : http://www.l-c-n.com/IE5tests/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet
Peter Firminger wrote: Go to Tools | Internet Options and at the bottom of the General tab click the Accessibility button and add your stylesheet there. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet Hi everyone I am wondering if anyone knows how to change the defaults in browsers like IE. I recall someone showed how a user can make their default font say Arial, 10, etc with particular colour like black on white background. Its all configured in a CSS file. So it over rides the CSS style that a website uses. I'd like to do some testing of a site and trying to factor this scenario in. Off-list responses welcomed.. Ralph ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Thanks for this! Exactly what I was looking for. This has now got me thinking whether it would be possible to test a website with a print media css to see what it looks like with print css.. I'm assuming it should.. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet
Hi everyone I am wondering if anyone knows how to change the defaults in browsers like IE. I recall someone showed how a user can make their default font say Arial, 10, etc with particular colour like black on white background. Its all configured in a CSS file. So it over rides the CSS style that a website uses. I'd like to do some testing of a site and trying to factor this scenario in. Off-list responses welcomed.. Ralph ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet
Ralph wrote:
I am wondering if anyone knows how to change the defaults in browsers like
IE.
I recall someone showed how a user can make their default font say Arial,
10, etc with particular colour like black on white background. Its all
configured in a CSS file. So it over rides the CSS style that a website
uses.
I'd like to do some testing of a site and trying to factor this scenario in.
Like in Gecko, in IE you can go into settings and have a user stylesheet
applied. Unlike in Gecko, to change it does not require a browser
restart.
So, as example to see what user css can do, go using the most recent
Gecko (Mozilla or Firefox daily trunk builds, about a month old or
newer) to http://newlifechurchofbr.org/
http://newlifechurchofbr.org/newlife.css (a site discussed on another
list today) and take a look using the defaults. Then, shut it down, and
in a file in your Gecko's chrome directory named userContent.css
(create as plain text if it doesn't already exist), put:
@-moz-document domain(newlifechurchofbr.org) {
body {font-size: medium !important;}
#navigation {font: small 'trebuchet ms' !important;}
}
When you restart, body will be medium instead of 80%, and #navigation
will be small trebuchet instead of 80% arial, verdana, sans-serif, *but
only* on that site.
Similarly, generic rules can be used to apply to all sites, both in IE
and Gecko. The result of generic rules is that some web sites will be
pretty much as the user intended via his generic user css overrides,
while many others, those using custom or combination selectors, will
look more or exactly as the author intended.
Now that you've done that, you should see that user css is really only
for people who understand css and have the time to apply it on the user
side, so few that it is really nothing any web designer needs to spend
more than two seconds pondering.
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RE: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet
Go to Tools | Internet Options and at the bottom of the General tab click the Accessibility button and add your stylesheet there. P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ralph Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 11:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Change defaults in IE with CSS style sheet Hi everyone I am wondering if anyone knows how to change the defaults in browsers like IE. I recall someone showed how a user can make their default font say Arial, 10, etc with particular colour like black on white background. Its all configured in a CSS file. So it over rides the CSS style that a website uses. I'd like to do some testing of a site and trying to factor this scenario in. Off-list responses welcomed.. Ralph ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
