[WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)

2008-07-17 Thread James Jeffery
What's your views on Pop-Ups? When I speak in terms of Pop-Ups I am
referring to the alert type Pop-Ups that are a part of the Browser Object
Model and NOT window Pop-Ups. The ones that are considered annoying!

I personally do not think they are annoying when used in the right way.
Google Mail uses them correctly. When you are writing an email and you
decide to close the tab or move to another webpage it will alert you and ask
you if you want to abandon the email you have spent 15 minutes writing and
forgot to save as a draft. In the same way MS Word would ask you if you want
to save an unsaved project. A good thing in my books.

They are probably only best used in Ajax applications in certain situations
when a users attention is needed. We have no problems using them in desktop
applications so why not use them in web applications (I am talking about
applications not web pages).

I am only writing this because I see developers label Pop-Ups as annoying.
Ganted, when used in the wrong way they are annoying, but you abuse anything
(including tables) and it becomes annoying/wrong.

To summarize, what's your views on Pop-Ups


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RE: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)

2008-07-17 Thread David Fuller - magickweb
Popup messages can be VERY useful. These days with floating divs etc they
are not always necessary, however I do agree that they have a definite
place.

 

Personally I use them in my web applications.

 

If you look at dreamweaver's form validation scripts, they also use that
style of popup.

 

I personally think that when used properly they are great, otherwise just an
annoyance and can potentially crash a browser.

 

David Fuller

Developer

magickWEB 

Web: http://www.magick.com.au http://www.magick.com.au

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What's your views on Pop-Ups? When I speak in terms of Pop-Ups I am
referring to the alert type Pop-Ups that are a part of the Browser Object
Model and NOT window Pop-Ups. The ones that are considered annoying!

I personally do not think they are annoying when used in the right way.
Google Mail uses them correctly. When you are writing an email and you
decide to close the tab or move to another webpage it will alert you and ask
you if you want to abandon the email you have spent 15 minutes writing and
forgot to save as a draft. In the same way MS Word would ask you if you want
to save an unsaved project. A good thing in my books.

They are probably only best used in Ajax applications in certain situations
when a users attention is needed. We have no problems using them in desktop
applications so why not use them in web applications (I am talking about
applications not web pages).

I am only writing this because I see developers label Pop-Ups as annoying.
Ganted, when used in the wrong way they are annoying, but you abuse anything
(including tables) and it becomes annoying/wrong.

To summarize, what's your views on Pop-Ups


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Re: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)

2008-07-17 Thread Christian Montoya
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 6:30 AM, David Fuller - magickweb
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 Popup messages can be VERY useful… These days with floating divs etc they
 are not always necessary, however I do agree that they have a definite
 place.


I think they can be more useful when a small sound is played. The
other option is an error message that appears in the document flow.

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christianmontoya.net


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RE: [WSG] Pop-Ups (BOM)

2008-07-17 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
 what's your views on Pop-Ups

My spontaneous answer is that I would expect pop-ups to alert me to
something that needs immediate attention, as you say when I forgot to
save my email draft. If I'm using web apps the correct way I don't
expect any pop-ups since web apps can manage all other feedback using
AJAX. For example, when filling out a form incorrectly, I expect
friendly messages appearing in the page, not in a pop-up.
 
Cheers,
 
Jens 

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