Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread Laert Jansen
images?

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   Dwain,
  
   The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
   difficulty with the image text.
 
 
 you're absolutely correct.  i didn't realize at first they were images.
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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread dwain
if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, then your links at the
bottom of the pages don't work.  resend the link and let me have another
look, please.
dwain

On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 images?

 On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote:
  
Dwain,
   
The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
difficulty with the image text.
  
  
  you're absolutely correct.  i didn't realize at first they were images.
  dwain
 
 
 
 
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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread dwain
the images are what fooled me at first.  the state representative pages are
images.  all of the work you show on the page are images.  that's why the
text wouldn't size for me.

i must agree with david that the font size could stand to be larger and a
bit more contrast between the text color and the background color.

dwain

On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://www.laertjansen.com/site2

 On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, then your links at
  the bottom of the pages don't work.  resend the link and let me have another
  look, please.
  dwain
 
  On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   images?
  
   On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   
On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Dwain,
 
  The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
  difficulty with the image text.


you're absolutely correct.  i didn't realize at first they were
images.
dwain
   
   
   
   
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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread Laert Jansen
http://www.laertjansen.com/site2

On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, then your links at
 the bottom of the pages don't work.  resend the link and let me have another
 look, please.
 dwain

 On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  images?
 
  On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
   On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
   
 Dwain,

 The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
 difficulty with the image text.
   
   
   you're absolutely correct.  i didn't realize at first they were
   images.
   dwain
  
  
  
  
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RE: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread Likely, James A.
I have not been really following this discussion, but he is using px for font 
sizes.



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I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF


On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 12:12 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


the images are what fooled me at first.  the state representative pages 
are images.  all of the work you show on the page are images.  that's why the 
text wouldn't size for me.

i must agree with david that the font size could stand to be larger and 
a bit more contrast between the text color and the background color.

dwain


On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

http://www.laertjansen.com/site2


On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:


if the pages with your picture on them aren't images, 
then your links at the bottom of the pages don't work.  resend the link and let 
me have another look, please.
dwain


On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

images?


On Feb 20, 2008 12:51 AM, dwain [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] wrote:



On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dwain,

The text proper is not frozen in 
Firefox. I think you are having
difficulty with the image text.


you're absolutely correct.  i didn't 
realize at first they were images.
dwain 





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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread dwain
On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF

 you are using px for your font size.  try using em or %.
dwain


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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread Laert Jansen
I don´t know what´s going on but using % the text looks much bigger in IE..

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 On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF
 
  you are using px for your font size.  try using em or %.

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread David Laakso

Laert Jansen wrote:

I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF






I believe your question is in reference to your uri:
http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/

/All/ browsers have the ability to scale fonts. Even Internet Explorer. 
The difficulty in IE is when a Web author sets the fonts in pixels, the 
user needs to put their browser into Accessibility mode, and check the 
ignore font sizes specified on Web pages box in order for them to 
scale (un-freeze, so to speak) the fonts. More user friendly Web authors 
size their fonts in percent or em rather than pixels.


Trivial Pursuits: I don't understand why you top-post (write above those 
to whom you reply instead of below) and do not trim your replies as it 
makes it virtually impossible to follow a logical thread.


Best,
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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread veine
Hello Laert;

The rule below, set that to the percentage you want, as it is now, IE fixes it 
at 10px

#biography p {
   font-size: 10px;
   line-height:1.0;
   margin: 8px 0 0 0;
   color: #999;
}

  HTH
~Veine

On 20 Feb 2008 at 12:54, Laert Jansen wrote:

 
 I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF
 


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RE: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread Darren Lovelock
Hi Laert Jansen,
 
Which IE are you using? IE7 uses different font rendering (ClearType), which
makes fonts slightly larger and more bold.
 
Try using em's. 1em is the equivalent of 16px. You can also use ems to 1
decimal place if you want to be more precise.
 
e.g. h1 { font-size: 1em; }
 
p { font-size: .8em; }
 
Kind regards,
 
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I don´t know what´s going on but using % the text looks much bigger in IE..


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On 2/20/08, Laert Jansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I don´t understand why is the text frozen in IE and not in FF



you are using px for your font size.  try using em or %. 

dwain


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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread David Laakso

Laert Jansen wrote:
I don´t know what´s going on but using % the text looks much bigger in 
IE..





This is in reference to your uri : http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/

Change this declaration:

body{
  background-color:#000;
  font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
  margin: 0;
  padding:0;
  background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;
}

to set default:
body {
  background-color:#000;
  font:  100% Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
  margin: 0;
  padding:0;
  background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;
}

Then change all selectors in the style sheet using 11px to 80%, and all 
selectors using 10px to 70% and you'll come out approximately the same 
cross-browser.


If it appears significantly different (larger) in IE6 or IE7 it may be 
because you have the browser set at text-size larger or largest, 
rather than medium.


Best,
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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-20 Thread David Laakso

Darren Lovelock wrote:
 

Try using em's. 1em is the equivalent of 16px. You can also use ems to 
1 decimal place if you want to be more precise.
 
e.g. h1 { font-size: 1em; }
 
p { font-size: .8em; }
 
Kind regards,
 
Darren Lovelock




But be very careful if you use em's. You must declare percent on the 
body or html, otherwise you'll trigger a bug in IE that causes the fonts 
to go goofy when scaled.


This is a method that /will/ work fine in IE when using em's:

html {font-size: 100%;}
body {font-size: 1em;}
h1 {font-size: 1em;}
p {font-size: 0.8em;}

Best,

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[WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
Hello,

I'm fighting with IE/Firefox for solving a css-problem(I believe).

I´ve just finished my online folio  http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ but
it looks like the way I want only with FF . I don´t know where´s the
mistake.

You can see the difference: With IE the line height is different, the job
description´s alignment is wrong, the margin on the top of the page...

Does anyone want to give me a little help...

Thanks a lot.


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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread David Laakso

Laert Jansen wrote:


I'm fighting with IE/Firefox for solving a css-problem(I believe).

I´ve just finished my online folio  
http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ but it looks like the way I want 
only with FF . I don´t know where´s the mistake.


You can see the difference: With IE the line height is different, the 
job description´s alignment is wrong, the margin on the top of the 
page...


Does anyone want to give me a little help...





IE has difficulty with line-height set in pixels. Try a raw number such 
as 1.2 or whatever does it for you.
You might try putting margin: 0; padding: 0;  on the body to bring all 
browsers to default; and, move the margin top to the header, and 
margin-bottom to the footer.

I do not know what you mean about the job description.
I'd consider using headings h1 through h6-- h1 is usually the page title.
But before you do anything else, validate the document as you have a 
zillion machine errors to fix.

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
Hi David

Thanks.

The margin on the top is working much better now. About the line height I
tried a raw number but it´s not working. Firefox is ok but IE has a lot of
white space between the lines...strange...

The description is something like Client: Jacob Ferreira   Role.
Website Design  Agency. Freelance Work
I tried a horizontal list with ulli but its not working well in IE.
What´s the best way to do something like this?

Thanks a lot again,

Laert


On Feb 19, 2008 11:07 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laert Jansen wrote:
 
  I'm fighting with IE/Firefox for solving a css-problem(I believe).
 
  I´ve just finished my online folio 
  http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/ but it looks like the way I want
  only with FF . I don´t know where´s the mistake.
 
  You can see the difference: With IE the line height is different, the
  job description´s alignment is wrong, the margin on the top of the
  page...
 
  Does anyone want to give me a little help...




 IE has difficulty with line-height set in pixels. Try a raw number such
 as 1.2 or whatever does it for you.
 You might try putting margin: 0; padding: 0;  on the body to bring all
 browsers to default; and, move the margin top to the header, and
 margin-bottom to the footer.
 I do not know what you mean about the job description.
 I'd consider using headings h1 through h6-- h1 is usually the page title.
 But before you do anything else, validate the document as you have a
 zillion machine errors to fix.
 Best,
 ~dL

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread David Laakso

Laert Jansen wrote:


The margin on the top is working much better now. About the line 
height I tried a raw number but it´s not working. Firefox is ok but IE 
has a lot of white space between the lines...strange...


The description is something like Client: Jacob Ferreira   
Role. Website Design  Agency. Freelance Work
I tried a horizontal list with ulli but its not working well in 
IE. What´s the best way to do something like this?


Thanks a lot again,

Laert



 http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/





With regard to the body declaration correction you've made, change this:


body{
   background-color:#000;
   font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
   margin-left: 0px;
   margin-right: 0px;
   margin-top: 0px;
   margin-bottom: 0px;
   background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;
  
}


to:

body{
   background-color:#000;
   font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
   margin: 0;
   padding:0;
   background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;
  
}


For the paragraph leading in IE, change this:

#biography{
   font-size: 10px;
   line-height:0.8;
   margin-top: 8px;
   color: #999;
} 


to read:

#biography p {
   font-size: 10px;
   line-height:0.8;
   margin: 8px 0 0 0;
   color: #999;
}


For the description, you'll need to default the ul margin and padding.

Change this declation:
#menu ul {
   color:#999;
   font-size: 10px;
   padding-left: 3px;
   list-style-type: none;
   margin-bottom: 4px;
}

To read something like this:

#menu ul {
   color:#999;
   font-size: 10px;
   padding: 0 0 0 3px;
   list-style-type: none;
   margin: 0 0 4px 0;
}

BTW, the above menu id needs to change to a class in both the markup and 
the CSS.


An id is unique and can only be used once on a page. You've used it 
numerous times; consequently, correcting it to a class will do the 
trick, and simultaneousley fix some of the 30 markup validaton errors.


HTH,

~dL

PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic 
for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in 
IE, only adds insult to injury.











You will still want to correct the 30 markup validation errors on your file.

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
Hey David! Thanks a lot!! It´s working now!!! :))) Thanks!!

On Feb 19, 2008 4:40 PM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laert Jansen wrote:
 
  The margin on the top is working much better now. About the line
  height I tried a raw number but it´s not working. Firefox is ok but IE
  has a lot of white space between the lines...strange...
 
  The description is something like Client: Jacob Ferreira
  Role. Website Design  Agency. Freelance Work
  I tried a horizontal list with ulli but its not working well in
  IE. What´s the best way to do something like this?
 
  Thanks a lot again,
 
  Laert
 
 
 
   http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/
 



 With regard to the body declaration correction you've made, change this:


 body{
background-color:#000;
font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
margin-left: 0px;
margin-right: 0px;
margin-top: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px;
background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;

 }

 to:

 body{
background-color:#000;
font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, Serif;
margin: 0;
padding:0;
background:url(../images/repeat.gif) repeat;

 }

 For the paragraph leading in IE, change this:

 #biography{
font-size: 10px;
line-height:0.8;
margin-top: 8px;
color: #999;
 }

 to read:

 #biography p {
font-size: 10px;
line-height:0.8;
margin: 8px 0 0 0;
color: #999;
 }


 For the description, you'll need to default the ul margin and padding.

 Change this declation:
 #menu ul {
color:#999;
font-size: 10px;
padding-left: 3px;
list-style-type: none;
margin-bottom: 4px;
 }

 To read something like this:

 #menu ul {
color:#999;
font-size: 10px;
padding: 0 0 0 3px;
list-style-type: none;
margin: 0 0 4px 0;
 }

 BTW, the above menu id needs to change to a class in both the markup and
 the CSS.

 An id is unique and can only be used once on a page. You've used it
 numerous times; consequently, correcting it to a class will do the
 trick, and simultaneousley fix some of the 30 markup validaton errors.

 HTH,

 ~dL

 PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic
 for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in
 IE, only adds insult to injury.










 You will still want to correct the 30 markup validation errors on your
 file.

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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread dwain
 On Feb 19, 2008 4:40 PM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic
  for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in
  IE, only adds insult to injury.


the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make the
type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.
dwain



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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread David Laakso

dwain wrote:



PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't
no picnic
for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it
frozen in
IE, only adds insult to injury.


the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make 
the type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.

dwain



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re: http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/


Dwain,

The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having 
difficulty with the image text.


Best,
~dL




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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
:D  sure sure. I have to do something about this...

On Feb 19, 2008 11:42 PM, dwain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 On Feb 19, 2008 4:40 PM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
   PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't no picnic
   for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it frozen in
   IE, only adds insult to injury.
 
 
 the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make the
 type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.
 dwain



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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread dwain
 On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Dwain,
 
  The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
  difficulty with the image text.


you're absolutely correct.  i didn't realize at first they were images.
dwain




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Re: [WSG] Problem with folio online | IE

2008-02-19 Thread Laert Jansen
not frozen in Firefox.sure

On Feb 20, 2008 12:05 AM, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 dwain wrote:
 
 
  PS /Landing/ on a page with mousetype an 116dpi laptop ain't
  no picnic
  for those of us without your Superman vision. Then having it
  frozen in
  IE, only adds insult to injury.
 
 
  the main text on the pages are frozen in firefox as well.  can't make
  the type any larger so i can read it, even with my glasses.
  dwain
 
 
 
  --
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 re: http://www.laertjansen.com/site2/


 Dwain,

 The text proper is not frozen in Firefox. I think you are having
 difficulty with the image text.

 Best,
 ~dL




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