Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-11 Thread Andrew Harris
Tim, if there's no sandwiches, I'm not going. ... ;-) seriously though, I think you have a point, but I don't think your approach will achieve anything. It's like howling at the developers of IE because they were part of a team that brought us a dodgy browser. There are many many good folk

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-11 Thread Tim
Thanks Andrew for correcting me and you too Russ. Was I ranting or being prejudiced against sandwiches as a metaphor for procrastination? The latter I thought. Sorry. I don't mind being alienated if a scape goat is required. If there were a page of Aust uni reviews detailing errors in each

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-11 Thread Ben Buchanan
Hi Tim, I'd say Universities are probably aware of the issues with their sites, they just don't have a magic wand to wave to get everything fixed. Universities have massive amounts of information to provide and generally a minimal budget to provide it. Despite that, they are held to very high

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-11 Thread Katrina
Tim wrote: Who are this group, what have they done in previous forums since 2004. I can only add that as a university student of South Australia, I enrolled in and enjoyed Denise Wood's Accessible Interactive Media where all sorts of accessibility was included (eg. captions on video clips

[WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we¹ve been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be interested in any

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Michael Wood
WANAU has been an invaluable leader in promoting accessibility issues in policies within Universities for some years now. Their site used to be self-explanatory. Haven't been involved for some time but they are very deserving of your help - very practical pioneers on this issue. Michael Michael

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Lucien Stals
I haven't heard of them, but I'd certainly be interested in finding out more about them. I work at Swinburne Uni (in Melbourne), and I'm pushing for more accessibility within the sites I'm responsible for. Feel free to email me off the mailing list if need be. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks,

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Adeline Yaw
Hi Susie, I haven't heard of this group before but I have gone through the website and it looks like something that's needed esp. among Universities. I am definitely interested in attending the Sydney event in May. Sydney Uni are actually having a web forum this afternoon for all CMS users

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Tim
On 11/04/2007, at 9:41 AM, Susie Gardner-Brown wrote: Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we’ve been asked to help ... :) I

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Tim
Pioneers, Not in making their own sites accessible. Don't make me laugh. Tim On 11/04/2007, at 10:02 AM, Michael Wood wrote: WANAU has been an invaluable leader in promoting accessibility issues in policies within Universities for some years now. Their site used to be self-explanatory.

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Ben Buchanan
Hi Susie, Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities ... http://www.wanau.org/site.html They are proposing running their annual forum on Accessibility in online teaching at UQ where I work, and we've been asked to help ... :) I expect I will be involved anyway, but would be

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Tim
What are the forums great for? Sandwiches and a chat! What is the concrete result of the forums? For example did Griffith Uni gain anything from the 2005 sandwich fest. It does not appear there was any benefit to Griffith Uni students.

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Susie Gardner-Brown
Thanks everyone for your responses! I'd never heard of them before - they obviously haven't had a presence at UQ to date. Looks like I (and my department) will be getting involved, which is great! Cheers susie On 11/4/07 11:54 AM, Ben Buchanan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Susie, Web

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Jonathan O'Donnell
Hi Tim The Web Accessibility Network for Australian Universities (WANAU) is a volunteer group with no formal structure (that I know of), much like Web Standards Group. It seeks to promote Web accessibility within Australian universities. They run a mailing list [1], forums at

Re: [WSG] WANAU - anyone heard of them?

2007-04-10 Thread Tim
Thanks Jonathan, They don't sell anything is a good sign, Please pardon my cynical impatience for action. I believe that the only real magic is taking action to promote or even legally (1992 DDA) force change. Shame them and name them, show their validation errors and accessibility flaws.