Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
I use this web site for a quick preview in Safari: http://www.danvine.com/icapture/ On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 23:07:18 -0400, Albert Gedraitis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cesar - Web users interested in your services will not be able to get much help if their browser is Safari 1.2.3. Sorry, but on this browser your site is a mess. Maybe someone else on the list can advise you what to do to make it Safari-accessible. Yours, Albert -- On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:41 AM, cesar | cesargarcia.com wrote: Yes, if all elements are proportional the layouts never break, increase or decrease size as same the font. Take a look: http://www.gestoriagarcia.net It's my latest work, incerase or decrease the size. Sorry for my english. cesar | cesargarcia.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Andrew Thompson Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2004 8:33 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout My understanding is that if all elements are relative/proportional, the layouts should never break. -- On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 4:14 PM, Focas, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Brian Duchek =-=-=-=-=-=-=-= e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] c: 847.809.2140 w: www.inquiline.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge
Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
Cesar - Web users interested in your services will not be able to get much help if their browser is Safari 1.2.3. Sorry, but on this browser your site is a mess. Maybe someone else on the list can advise you what to do to make it Safari-accessible. Yours, Albert -- On Sep 28, 2004, at 4:41 AM, cesar | cesargarcia.com wrote: Yes, if all elements are proportional the layouts never break, increase or decrease size as same the font. Take a look: http://www.gestoriagarcia.net It's my latest work, incerase or decrease the size. Sorry for my english. cesar | cesargarcia.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Andrew Thompson Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2004 8:33 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout My understanding is that if all elements are relative/proportional, the layouts should never break. -- On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 4:14 PM, Focas, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
My understanding is that if all elements are relative/proportional, the layouts should never break. -- On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 4:14 PM, Focas, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
Usually there isn't much you can do in these situations. I just ignore it. If you can double the font size, that should be more than enough. If someone needs it bigger - then they are going to be used to broken sites anyway... Any bigger and it becomes too hard to manage. You need to draw a line somewhere, i have - at 2 * the size... Focas, Grant wrote: I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.neester.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
Yes, if all elements are proportional the layouts never break, increase or decrease size as same the font. Take a look: http://www.gestoriagarcia.net It's my latest work, incerase or decrease the size. Sorry for my english. cesar | cesargarcia.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Andrew Thompson Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2004 8:33 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout My understanding is that if all elements are relative/proportional, the layouts should never break. -- On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 4:14 PM, Focas, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
Your English is good, but Safari on the Mac makes a hash of your site. http://www.imagine-hosting.com/images/gestoriagarcia_Safari.jpg On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 6:41 PM, cesargarcia.com|cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, if all elements are proportional the layouts never break, increase or decrease size as same the font. Take a look: http://www.gestoriagarcia.net It's my latest work, incerase or decrease the size. Sorry for my english. cesar | cesargarcia.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Andrew Thompson Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2004 8:33 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout My understanding is that if all elements are relative/proportional, the layouts should never break. -- On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 4:14 PM, Focas, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout
Opsss. it will try to solve it. as I can see my sites in safari ? I use Windows Thanks -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Andrew Thompson Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2004 10:56 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout Your English is good, but Safari on the Mac makes a hash of your site. http://www.imagine-hosting.com/images/gestoriagarcia_Safari.jpg On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 6:41 PM, cesargarcia.com|cesar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, if all elements are proportional the layouts never break, increase or decrease size as same the font. Take a look: http://www.gestoriagarcia.net It's my latest work, incerase or decrease the size. Sorry for my english. cesar | cesargarcia.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de Andrew Thompson Enviado el: martes, 28 de septiembre de 2004 8:33 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: [WSG] increasing font size breaking layout My understanding is that if all elements are relative/proportional, the layouts should never break. -- On Tuesday, 28 September 2004 4:14 PM, Focas, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if people had any opinions on when its acceptable if at all for a layout to break when users increase font size. Sites I am working on look fine if text is increased or decreased 1 or 2 times but when they are increased repeatedly the layout goes a bit whacky in some browsers (Netscape 6.2 on PC, IE5 Mac). Specifically, elements which are absolutely positioned get overlapped by wrapped list navigation. It seems to me that this only happens when text gets extremely large on small resolution screens and therefore I shouldn't worry too much, but is extreme all in the eye of the beholder? Grant Focas ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
