Re: [WSG] small and big : accessibility usage?

2005-06-15 Thread Alan Trick
Acording to the WHAT-WG the small element does have semantic meaning.
I don't have the link though. They basically said that it was good for
things like 'small print' and such cases. I think small is an unusal
case here and is meanigful and useful.

Alan Trick

Matt Thommes wrote:
 Is there any reason at all to ever use small, and big?
 
 I know they are visual elements, but I thought I heard somewhere
 that small represents a tonal adjustment, for screen readers - such
 as *lowering* the tone of voice.
 
 em and strong provide levels of emphasis - but is there an
 opposite to that? The other end of the spectrum, I mean?
 
 
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Re: [WSG] small and big : accessibility usage?

2005-06-15 Thread Geoff Deering

Alan Trick wrote:


Acording to the WHAT-WG the small element does have semantic meaning.
I don't have the link though. They basically said that it was good for
things like 'small print' and such cases. I think small is an unusal
case here and is meanigful and useful.

Alan Trick

 



I think that when we are trying to apply accessibility principles we 
need to try to keep in mind the notion of device independance, and to a 
blind user small and big have no relevant descriptive meaning, 
because that element is then telling them that the word or phrase is 
either *small* or *large* in size, which isn't a true semantic markup, 
it's presentational.


I like Tim Bray's discussion on Descriptive markup as opposed to 
Semantic markup.


http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/04/09/SemanticMarkup

Geoff Deering
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[WSG] small and big : accessibility usage?

2005-06-14 Thread Matt Thommes
Is there any reason at all to ever use small, and big?

I know they are visual elements, but I thought I heard somewhere
that small represents a tonal adjustment, for screen readers - such
as *lowering* the tone of voice.

em and strong provide levels of emphasis - but is there an
opposite to that? The other end of the spectrum, I mean?


MATTHOM
matthom.com/
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