RE: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-25 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
Nathan de Vries writed: In other words, Microsoft are effectively creating their own HTML- email standard, authorable and viewable in Microsoft tools only. So, what else is new? :o) -- I made magic once. Now, the sofa is gone. http://blog.dwacon.com

Re: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-25 Thread Henrik Madsen
Indeed. Here's Microsoft's 'totally up-themselves' response. I'm sure they'd welcome comments ;) http://blogs.msdn.com/outlook/archive/2009/06/24/the-power-of-word-in-outlook.aspx On 25/06/2009, at 4:37 PM, Conyers, Dwayne wrote: Nathan de Vries writed: In other words, Microsoft are

RE: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-24 Thread Michael MD
We have a problem! Outlook 2010, according to Campaign Monitor [1], is going to continue to use the crippled MS Word layout engine. They adopted this as the status quo for Outlook 2007 and promptly set rich email with CSS, etc., back a number of years, and are showing no great sign of diverging

Re: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-24 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 5:15 AM, Joshua Street josh.str...@gmail.comwrote: We have a problem! Outlook 2010, according to Campaign Monitor [1], is going to continue to use the crippled MS Word layout engine. FixOutlook.org aims to collate the community's discontent with this decision using

Re: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-24 Thread Nathan de Vries
On 24/06/2009, at 9:58 PM, Matthew Pennell wrote: This is so stupid - the reason that Outlook uses Word instead of a decent rendering engine is because of the same standards advocates complaining so much about IE6 being bundled with Windows! You can't have your cake and eat it too... You

Re: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-24 Thread Andrew Stewart
Nathan, I think you are slightly missing the point, I for one don't care too hoots if microsoft uses its own rendering engine or not. All I care is that they use one that works and I think this is the main point of the campaign. I pretty much left web design a few years back because I

Re: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-24 Thread Nathan de Vries
On 24/06/2009, at 11:40 PM, Andrew Stewart wrote: I think you are slightly missing the point... You might want to re-read (or read) my email. I was responding to Matthew, who was implying that Microsoft's decision to use Word as the rendering engine was due to Opera's complaint to The

RE: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-24 Thread Conyers, Dwayne
Michael MD wroted: WHY do I have to stuff around with regedit to be able to do view source in current versions of Outlook? Can you pass on that trick? I would love to be able to view source... -- The generation that took acid to escape reality is now taking antacid to deal with reality

Re: [WSG] Outlook 2010

2009-06-24 Thread Nathan de Vries
On 24/06/2009, at 9:58 PM, Matthew Pennell wrote: ...the reason that Outlook uses Word instead of a decent rendering engine is because of the same standards advocates complaining so much about IE6 being bundled with Windows! Microsoft have since responded to the campaign [1] and thrown this