Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-15 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks again for your replies on this guys, just got back on my email.
It might be worth investing 10 bucks in campaign monitor just to see
what they recommend.

Cheers

On 07/11/2007, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Tim Palac wrote:
  Paul,
 
  You might also check out Campaign Monitor - they have a new service
  where, for 10 bucks, they'll show you where your email fails to pass
  spam filters and also gives you screenshots of what it looks like in all
  the various email programs including Outlook 2007.  Enjoy!
 

 I was going to suggest the same - and they also have free templates that
 are already tested:
 http://www.campaignmonitor.com/resources/templates.aspx



 --
 Chris Knowles


 ***
 List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
 Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
 Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ***




***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Mohamed Jama
You could always open the page in word document and if everything looks
fine there it will look fine in outlook 2007 since its using MS Word to
render!

M. Jama

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Stijn Audooren
Sent: 07 November 2007 07:12
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007



Return Receipt
 

Your  RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

document

:

 

was   Stijn Audooren/TVH

received

by:

 

at:   07/11/2007 08:12:00

 






 DISCLAIMER 
A HREF=http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html;
http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html /A

This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions
set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this
message. 


***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***




***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Nick Fitzsimons

On 7 Nov 2007, at 14:01, Paul Collins wrote:


I think the best thing to do is grab a version for XP, I didn't
actually know I could add it to that.

On 07/11/2007, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 11/7/07, Mohamed Jama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You could always open the page in word document and if everything  
looks
fine there it will look fine in outlook 2007 since its using MS  
Word to

render!


Problem with that is potential differences between Word HTML  
rendering

2003 - 2007. I haven't really looked into it but it would stand to
reason there may be differences... they stupidly thought it good
enough to be the sole renderer for the most widely used email client
on the planet, so you'd at least hope it improved...



It might be worth downloading the Word 2007 Viewer - it's a free  
download which allows you to View, print and copy Microsoft Word  
documents, even if you don't have Microsoft Word installed:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/downloads/CD102258581033.aspx

Maybe somebody with access to Outlook 2007 can compare the two to see  
if they are comparable.


HTH,

Nick.
--
Nick Fitzsimons
http://www.nickfitz.co.uk/



***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Paul Collins
Thanks for your replies everyone. I was hoping Browsercam had gotten
onto it or a site like that.

I think the best thing to do is grab a version for XP, I didn't
actually know I could add it to that.

Thanks for your help
Paul



On 07/11/2007, Joshua Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 11/7/07, Mohamed Jama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You could always open the page in word document and if everything looks
  fine there it will look fine in outlook 2007 since its using MS Word to
  render!

 Problem with that is potential differences between Word HTML rendering
 2003 - 2007. I haven't really looked into it but it would stand to
 reason there may be differences... they stupidly thought it good
 enough to be the sole renderer for the most widely used email client
 on the planet, so you'd at least hope it improved...


 ***
 List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
 Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
 Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ***




***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Joshua Street
On 11/7/07, Mohamed Jama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You could always open the page in word document and if everything looks
 fine there it will look fine in outlook 2007 since its using MS Word to
 render!

Problem with that is potential differences between Word HTML rendering
2003 - 2007. I haven't really looked into it but it would stand to
reason there may be differences... they stupidly thought it good
enough to be the sole renderer for the most widely used email client
on the planet, so you'd at least hope it improved...


***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Tim Palac
Paul,

You might also check out Campaign Monitor - they have a new service where,
for 10 bucks, they'll show you where your email fails to pass spam filters
and also gives you screenshots of what it looks like in all the various
email programs including Outlook 2007.  Enjoy!

Tim
http://www.timpalac.com/blog/
IM: TymArtist

On Nov 6, 2007 11:18 AM, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,

 Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
 emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
 buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online
 rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search.

 Cheers
 Paul


 ***
 List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
 Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
 Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ***




***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***

Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-07 Thread Chris Knowles
Tim Palac wrote:
 Paul,
 
 You might also check out Campaign Monitor - they have a new service
 where, for 10 bucks, they'll show you where your email fails to pass
 spam filters and also gives you screenshots of what it looks like in all
 the various email programs including Outlook 2007.  Enjoy!
 

I was going to suggest the same - and they also have free templates that
are already tested:
http://www.campaignmonitor.com/resources/templates.aspx



-- 
Chris Knowles


***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Max A. Shpack
Hey Paul, if you have a friend with it -- set up remote desktop
connection and you'll be able to use outlook. I have outlook2007 on
XP, you can send email to me and i will send back a printscreen.

Cheers,
Max.

2007/11/6, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi all,

 Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
 emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
 buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online
 rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search.

 Cheers
 Paul


 ***
 List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
 Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
 Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ***




***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Shaun
It you have the bucks

http://litmusapp.com/

Regards

Shaun


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Paul Collins
Sent: 06 November 2007 17:19
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007


Hi all,

Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
buying it just yet! I thought there may be some kind of online
rendering engine setup by now, but couldn't find anything in a search.

Cheers
Paul


***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***





***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread lisa . kerrigan
Return Receipt
   
   Your   RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
   document:   
   
   wasLisa Kerrigan/StateDevPolicy/DSD 
   received
   by: 
   
   at:07/11/2007 09:33:44 AM   
   





**
Department of Innovation, Industry and Regional Development, 
Government of Victoria, Victoria, Australia.  

This e-mail and any attachments may contain privileged and confidential
information.   If you are not the intended recipient, you may not distribute
reproduce this e-mail or the attachments.   If you have received this message
in error, please notify us by return e-mail.
**




***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



Re: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Joshua Street
On 11/7/07, Paul Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just wondering if anyone has found a clever way of testing your HTML
 emails for Outlook 2007? I don't have Vista and can't see myself
 buying it just yet!

Office 2007 runs fine on XP, with the new stupid Word rendering engine
and all. And assuming you don't buy an OEM copy the license will be
valid on Vista if you ever do upgrade (and if you DO buy an OEM copy
and upgrade to Vista on the same hardware, it's still valid).

If you're regularly testing for Outlook '07, probably a worthwhile
investment over remote-hosted services. That said I've got no hard
numbers on usage stats for it... we're testing for it, but it's
possibly not significant just yet.

http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa338201.aspx is a useful resource.

Hope this helps

Josh


***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***



RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007

2007-11-06 Thread Stijn Audooren


Return Receipt
   
Your  RE: [WSG] Testing emails for Outlook 2007
document   
:  
   
was   Stijn Audooren/TVH   
received   
by:
   
at:   07/11/2007 08:12:00  
   





 DISCLAIMER 
A HREF=http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html;
http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html /A

This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions
set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this
message. 


***
List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm
Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm
Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
***