Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site

2003-12-12 Thread Jonathan Baldwin
Thanks for all those thoughts - I'd guessed it pretty much but it's 
nice to have confirmation. I'll let you know what the site owners say!

(www.newstatesman.co.uk had a similar problem and were oblivious to the 
fact the site didn't work on anything other than their setup. I ended 
up emailing them the simple solution, though I'm not sure they've 
implemented it yet)

JB

On 11 Dec 2003, at 22:56, James Ellis wrote:

Looks like they are using Javascript to launch links. Doesn't work in 
Firebird. Venkman gives it a big thumbs down.

Error: document.newsnav has no properties
Source File: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/inc/navnn.js.asp
Line: 68
The JS file has an ASP extension.

Gotta love those spacer gifs.

Cheers
James
Jonathan Baldwin wrote:

I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD 
review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, 
they're all just # links.
I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work 
before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case 
of this site does not support Macs? Whatever the problem my bleary 
eyes just aren't seeing it.

I'm interested to know the reason it's broken (if it is) so I can 
use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point.

http://www.gramophone.co.uk

Jonathan

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[WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site

2003-12-11 Thread Jonathan Baldwin
I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD 
review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, they're 
all just # links.
I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work 
before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case 
of this site does not support Macs? Whatever the problem my bleary 
eyes just aren't seeing it.

I'm interested to know the reason it's broken (if it is) so I can use 
it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point.

http://www.gramophone.co.uk

Jonathan

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RE: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site

2003-12-11 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Jonathon,

It has dynamic menus that you're not getting in Safari.

A good illustration of not testing (or caring about) cross platform
compatibility.

This is also a good time to point out that if you use these types of dynamic
menus, you must point the initial link to a meaningful address (a page that
contains all the links that the menu would provide if it worked) so that
anyone that doesn't get the menu still has an option.

P

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 I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD
 review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't
 work, they're
 all just # links.
 I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work
 before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case
 of this site does not support Macs? Whatever the problem my bleary
 eyes just aren't seeing it.

 I'm interested to know the reason it's broken (if it is) so
 I can use
 it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point.

 http://www.gramophone.co.uk

 Jonathan

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Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site

2003-12-11 Thread James Ellis
Looks like they are using Javascript to launch links. Doesn't work in 
Firebird. Venkman gives it a big thumbs down.

Error: document.newsnav has no properties
Source File: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/inc/navnn.js.asp
Line: 68
The JS file has an ASP extension.

Gotta love those spacer gifs.

Cheers
James
Jonathan Baldwin wrote:

I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD 
review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, they're 
all just # links.
I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work 
before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case 
of this site does not support Macs? Whatever the problem my bleary 
eyes just aren't seeing it.

I'm interested to know the reason it's broken (if it is) so I can 
use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point.

http://www.gramophone.co.uk

Jonathan

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Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site

2003-12-11 Thread Ben Bishop
It's broken. The menu uses Javascript to dynamically create fly-out 
menus. It doesn't work in my Mac/Safari 1.1 nor Win/Firebird 0.7. It 
does work in Win/IE 6

Without delving, I would hazard a guess that IE specific JS statements 
are disabling the menu.

Cheers,
Ben
Jonathan Baldwin wrote:

I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for a CD 
review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, they're 
all just # links.
I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't work 
before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a case 
of this site does not support Macs? Whatever the problem my bleary 
eyes just aren't seeing it.

I'm interested to know the reason it's broken (if it is) so I can 
use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point.



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Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site

2003-12-11 Thread David McDonald


On the topic of drop down menus, i've found Ben Boyle's menus to be extremely useful:

http://inspire.server101.com/js/mb/mb.html

I think Ben's a member of this list, too.

The menus are built with plaint text, list items, CSS and a little javascript and seem 
to work very well cross browser, including Mac IE 5 and Safari. If javascript is not 
enabled, the user is presented with a list item as an alternative.

I've used variations of these menus for quite a few sites I have worked on, and they 
are very extensible and customisable.

Regards,

David McDonald
Web Designer
Melbourne, Australia
http://www.davidmcdonald.org

ICQ:11814164

- Original Message -
From: James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:56 am
Subject: Re: [WSG] [OT everso slightly] Gramophone web site

 
 Looks like they are using Javascript to launch links. Doesn't work 
 in 
 Firebird. Venkman gives it a big thumbs down.
 
 Error: document.newsnav has no properties
 Source File: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/inc/navnn.js.asp
 Line: 68
 
 The JS file has an ASP extension.
 
 Gotta love those spacer gifs.
 
 Cheers
 James
 
 Jonathan Baldwin wrote:
 
 
  I just visited the web site of Gramophone magazine, looking for 
 a CD 
  review. I'm using Safari - the buttons on the site don't work, 
 they're 
  all just # links.
  I've looked in the source code and am wondering why they don't 
 work 
  before I email them and let them know. Any guesses it might be a 
 case 
  of this site does not support Macs? Whatever the problem my 
 bleary 
  eyes just aren't seeing it.
 
  I'm interested to know the reason it's broken (if it is) so I 
 can 
  use it as an example of what to avoid with students at some point.
 
  http://www.gramophone.co.uk
 
  Jonathan
 
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