[WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread designer
I would be grateful if someone could tell me what is the current best practice 
for letting users change the font-size (e.g., by clicking on three 'a's of 
different sizes to make different css files be used) on the web site.  Is it 
still a good idea, or do we go for the approach of using the browser to do it?  
Any and all helpful suggestions gratefully appreciated.

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: [WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread Benedict Wyss
I am also interested.I have been asked to deliver it inside a
SharePoint site.
I would like to hear from anyone who has been there...done that

Thanks,

Ben

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:05 PM, designer 
desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk wrote:

  I would be grateful if someone could tell me what is the current best
 practice for letting users change the font-size (e.g., by clicking on three
 'a's of different sizes to make different css files be used) on the web
 site.  Is it still a good idea, or do we go for the approach of using the
 browser to do it?  Any and all helpful suggestions gratefully appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Bob

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RE: [WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread James Leslie
I would be grateful if someone could tell me what is the current best
practice for letting users change the font-size (e.g., by clicking on
three 'a's of different sizes to make different css files be used) on
the web site.  Is it still a good idea, or do we go for the approach of
using the browser to do it?  Any and all helpful suggestions gratefully
appreciated.
 
 
 
Comes down to the 'give a man a fish/teach a man to fish' principle for
me. If you explain to the user how to use their browser settings to
change the text size then they can use that on any site.  If you use the
3 A's it only holds up for your site (and breaks if cookies/JavaScript
are turned off)
 
James



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Re: [WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread Brett Patterson
I agree with James. Although, I find the best possible, all-around solution
is to use all of the above! If the user does not have JavaScript/cookies
enabled, then the user will use their browser, else they cannot view the
text in large size. If the user does have JavaScript/cookies enabled, then
the user can use that method to enlarge font size, whether they know or do
not know how to use the browser to enlarge font size.

This gives all opportunities to the user for any circumstance they may be
in, and allows you to do some quick development, without much worry!

--
Brett P.


On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 9:38 AM, James Leslie
james.les...@transversal.comwrote:

  I would be grateful if someone could tell me what is the current best
 practice for letting users change the font-size (e.g., by clicking on three
 'a's of different sizes to make different css files be used) on the web
 site.  Is it still a good idea, or do we go for the approach of using the
 browser to do it?  Any and all helpful suggestions gratefully appreciated.

  

 Comes down to the 'give a man a fish/teach a man to fish' principle for me.
 If you explain to the user how to use their browser settings to change the
 text size then they can use that on any site.  If you use the 3 A's it only
 holds up for your site (and breaks if cookies/JavaScript are turned off)

 James


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Re: [WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread Hassan Schroeder

James Leslie wrote:

Comes down to the 'give a man a fish/teach a man to fish' principle for 
me. If you explain to the user how to use their browser settings to 
change the text size then they can use that on any site.  


Good in theory -- would you point out a few example sites that have
done a good job of explaining this to non-technical end users?


If you use the 3 A's it ... breaks if cookies/JavaScript are turned off


Not necessarily; depends on your server technology.

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RE: [WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread James Leslie
 

 Comes down to the 'give a man a fish/teach a man to fish' principle 
 for me. If you explain to the user how to use their browser settings 
 to change the text size then they can use that on any site.

 Good in theory -- would you point out a few example sites that have
done a good job of explaining this to non-  technical end users?

Roger Johansson wrote a great article about it that references some good
places and links to the place I stole the fish analogy from:
http://www.456bereastreet.com/archive/200709/scrap_text_resize_widgets_a
nd_teach_people_how_to_resize_text/





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Re: [WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread Matijs
Current best practice is (and imho has always been) using relative
font-sizes to make text resizing work the browser way in all browsers
including IE6/7.
In addition to that you could add a widget to resize text. In an ideal
situation this widget would also work without javascript (not too hard) or
without cookies (a bit harder). The main reason these widgets exist might
be the fact that IE didn't allow a user to resize text when the
font-size was defined in pixels instead of a
percentage or ems.

Just slapping
a text resizing widget on a site and then calling it accessible/usable
isn't enough.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 3:05 PM, designer desig...@gwelanmor-internet.co.uk
 wrote:

  I would be grateful if someone could tell me what is the current best
 practice for letting users change the font-size (e.g., by clicking on three
 'a's of different sizes to make different css files be used) on the web
 site.  Is it still a good idea, or do we go for the approach of using the
 browser to do it?  Any and all helpful suggestions gratefully appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Bob

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Re: [WSG] [Spam] :changing font sizes from within a page.

2009-07-20 Thread Janice Schwarz
I find the text resizer concept (i.e. the 3 A's you mention) to be a poor
idea. Unless you are making those VERY large...more often than not, they
are unnoticed by those that need them because
a. those 3 A's are VERY tiny
b. those 3 A's are tucked away in some part of the site that will not be
easily noticed.

Thus, those that need them have no way of using them. Personally, I'd just
use the relative sizing so fonts will scale per user setting.

And following up on what someone else wrote: trying to teach your users to
use your site doesn't work. They won't take the time to learn. They will
simply leave. Most surfers have no patience for a site that requires
effort on their part.

Janice



 I would be grateful if someone could tell me what is the current best
 practice for letting users change the font-size (e.g., by clicking on
 three 'a's of different sizes to make different css files be used) on the
 web site.  Is it still a good idea, or do we go for the approach of using
 the browser to do it?  Any and all helpful suggestions gratefully
 appreciated.

 Thanks,

 Bob

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