[WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
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 Hi All,


This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I'm
building. I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha one
because they are far from accessible, I'm not that good at PHP though to
figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form for general contact
but this will be to process order request. I've trawled the internet but all
I can find is captcha solutions, can any one point me in the right
direction?


 


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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread kevin erickson
It seems the best alternative might be to have the ability to call you or  
contact you in some way for verification for handicapped individuals.


regards,
kevin


This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I'm
building. I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha  
one

because they are far from accessible, I'm not that good at PHP though to
figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form for general  
contact
but this will be to process order request. I've trawled the internet but  
all

I can find is captcha solutions, can any one point me in the right
direction?


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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Gonzalo González Mora
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 general contact but this will be to process order request. I've trawled the
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Hi,
I've seen this captcha service and, according to their website, it's
accessible to blind users. I didn't check it, so I don't know... anyway,
here's the link: http://recaptcha.net/

Gonzalo


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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread kevin erickson
reCAPTCHA sounds good. I tried it out and the audio for vision impaired  
visitors worked fine.
The service seems to be free and is set up to digitize old books that  
cannot be scanned, literally, one word at a time. Pretty amazing!


kevin



Hi,
I've seen this captcha service and, according to their website, it's
accessible to blind users. I didn't check it, so I don't know... anyway,
here's the link: http://recaptcha.net/

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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Scott Elcomb
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM, kevin erickson
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 reCAPTCHA sounds good. I tried it out and the audio for vision impaired
 visitors worked fine.
 The service seems to be free and is set up to digitize old books that cannot
 be scanned, literally, one word at a time. Pretty amazing!

From the reCaptcha about page[1]

To archive human knowledge and to make information more accessible to
the world, multiple projects are currently digitizing physical books
that were written before the computer age. The book pages are being
photographically scanned, and then transformed into text using
Optical Character Recognition (OCR). The transformation into text is
useful because scanning a book produces images, which are difficult to
store on small devices, expensive to download, and cannot be searched.
The problem is that OCR is not perfect.

I think there's a strong relationship between reCaptcha and this group
- via standards and accessibility.  :-)

[1] http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html
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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com

Hi eBiz,

In this article [1] I explain the how-to a bit and offer some additional 
solutions. Perhaps you could integrate those code snippets in your order 
form.


[1] http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=220

Respectfully,
Mike Cherim



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Hi All,


   This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I'm
building. I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha 
one

because they are far from accessible, I'm not that good at PHP though to
figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form for general 
contact
but this will be to process order request. I've trawled the internet but 
all

I can find is captcha solutions, can any one point me in the right
direction?





Many thanks


Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd

6 Gibson Place

Meir

Stoke-on-Trent



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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Vicki Stanton
Well I can vouch that reCAPTCHA doesn't work for hearing impaired or  
deaf folks. There have been times when I've been unable to decipher  
the warped text visually (and I'm not sight impaired) - and audio is  
no use at all.


Contact form spam should never be the problem of the user. And there  
is no need for it to be.


I've used Mike's contact form http://green-beast.com/gbcf-v3/ with  
success. Perhaps it may be possible to liaise with him about how to  
customise it for your own purposes?


Vicki.  :-)



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RE: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
Mike your still a god in my eyes, even more so now. Many thanks.

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Hi eBiz,

In this article [1] I explain the how-to a bit and offer some additional 
solutions. Perhaps you could integrate those code snippets in your order 
form.

[1] http://green-beast.com/blog/?p=220

Respectfully,
Mike Cherim



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Subject: [WSG] Accesbility Help


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 logo to visit our home page


 Hi All,


This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I'm
 building. I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha 
 one
 because they are far from accessible, I'm not that good at PHP though to
 figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form for general 
 contact
 but this will be to process order request. I've trawled the internet but 
 all
 I can find is captcha solutions, can any one point me in the right
 direction?





 Many thanks


 Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd

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 Stoke-on-Trent



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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Joseph Taylor
If you want to avoid captchas, my recommendation would be to add a 
question that would foil a robot. Just explain that this field is for 
that specifically.


Something like:

fieldset
legendHuman Verification/legend

pThis section is used to thwart evil spam robots. Fill in the correct 
answer./p


div
labelWhat color is the sky? (hint: blue)/label
input type=text name=human_verifier
/div
/fieldset

You're PHP would be:

?php
// check the answer
if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
{
// incorrect
echo 'Robot! Get out!');
}
else
{
// correct
echo 'Welcome, Human.';
}
?

This is obviously a very, very simple solution but it has worked on 
reducing/removing form spam on a couple of my sites quite well while 
being an accessible solution. I'm welcome to an contradictory thoughts 
on this.


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/Designer / Developer/
--
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/Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
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  * Hi All, *


  * This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I’m building.
  I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha one
  because they are far from accessible, I’m not that good at PHP
  though to figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form
  for general contact but this will be to process order request. I’ve
  trawled the internet but all I can find is captcha solutions, can
  any one point me in the right direction? *


  * *


  * Many thanks *

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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com

Hi Joseph,


?php
// check the answer
if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
{
// incorrect
echo 'Robot! Get out!');
}
else
{
// correct
echo 'Welcome, Human.';
}
?


You can make that a little more foolproof by setting the case of the text 
before matching, upper or lower it doesn't matter, but either way it'll 
prevent answers like Blue, BLUE, bLuE, etc. from triggering the Robot! Get 
out! error.


Respectfully,
Mike Cherim




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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help


If you want to avoid captchas, my recommendation would be to add a 
question that would foil a robot. Just explain that this field is for that 
specifically.


Something like:

fieldset
legendHuman Verification/legend

pThis section is used to thwart evil spam robots. Fill in the correct 
answer./p


div
labelWhat color is the sky? (hint: blue)/label
input type=text name=human_verifier
/div
/fieldset

You're PHP would be:

?php
// check the answer
if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
{
// incorrect
echo 'Robot! Get out!');
}
else
{
// correct
echo 'Welcome, Human.';
}
?

This is obviously a very, very simple solution but it has worked on 
reducing/removing form spam on a couple of my sites quite well while being 
an accessible solution. I'm welcome to an contradictory thoughts on this.


Joseph R. B. Taylor
/Designer / Developer/
--
Sites by Joe, LLC
/Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
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Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote:


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  * Hi All, *


  * This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I’m building.
  I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha one
  because they are far from accessible, I’m not that good at PHP
  though to figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form
  for general contact but this will be to process order request. I’ve
  trawled the internet but all I can find is captcha solutions, can
  any one point me in the right direction? *


  * *


  * Many thanks *

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6 Gibson Place

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RE: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd
Pretty much what I was lucking for, similar to Mike's solution. Work on a
screen reader to unlike captcha.

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Subject: Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

If you want to avoid captchas, my recommendation would be to add a 
question that would foil a robot. Just explain that this field is for 
that specifically.

Something like:

fieldset
legendHuman Verification/legend

pThis section is used to thwart evil spam robots. Fill in the correct 
answer./p

div
labelWhat color is the sky? (hint: blue)/label
input type=text name=human_verifier
/div
/fieldset

You're PHP would be:

?php
// check the answer
if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
{
// incorrect
echo 'Robot! Get out!');
}
else
{
// correct
echo 'Welcome, Human.';
}
?

This is obviously a very, very simple solution but it has worked on 
reducing/removing form spam on a couple of my sites quite well while 
being an accessible solution. I'm welcome to an contradictory thoughts 
on this.

Joseph R. B. Taylor
/Designer / Developer/
--
Sites by Joe, LLC
/Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote:

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   * Hi All, *


   * This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I'm building.
   I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha one
   because they are far from accessible, I'm not that good at PHP
   though to figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form
   for general contact but this will be to process order request. I've
   trawled the internet but all I can find is captcha solutions, can
   any one point me in the right direction? *


   * *


   * Many thanks *

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 6 Gibson Place

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 www.essentialebizsolutions.net http://www.essentialebizsolutions.net

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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Joseph Taylor

Good call.

?php
// check the answer
if (strtolower($_POST['human_verifier']) != 'blue')
{
// incorrect
echo 'Robot! Get out!');
}
else
{
// correct
echo 'Welcome, Human.';
}
?

I agree that Mike's form is well made too.  It takes my concept and adds 
in all the other pieces you'd want for the complete solution.


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Phone: (609) 335-3076
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Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

Hi Joseph,


?php
// check the answer
if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
{
// incorrect
echo 'Robot! Get out!');
}
else
{
// correct
echo 'Welcome, Human.';
}
?


You can make that a little more foolproof by setting the case of the 
text before matching, upper or lower it doesn't matter, but either way 
it'll prevent answers like Blue, BLUE, bLuE, etc. from triggering the 
Robot! Get out! error.


Respectfully,
Mike Cherim




- Original Message - From: Joseph Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help


If you want to avoid captchas, my recommendation would be to add a 
question that would foil a robot. Just explain that this field is for 
that specifically.


Something like:

fieldset
legendHuman Verification/legend

pThis section is used to thwart evil spam robots. Fill in the 
correct answer./p


div
labelWhat color is the sky? (hint: blue)/label
input type=text name=human_verifier
/div
/fieldset

You're PHP would be:

?php
// check the answer
if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
{
// incorrect
echo 'Robot! Get out!');
}
else
{
// correct
echo 'Welcome, Human.';
}
?

This is obviously a very, very simple solution but it has worked on 
reducing/removing form spam on a couple of my sites quite well while 
being an accessible solution. I'm welcome to an contradictory 
thoughts on this.


Joseph R. B. Taylor
/Designer / Developer/
--
Sites by Joe, LLC
/Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
Phone: (609) 335-3076
Fax: (866) 301-8045
Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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  * Hi All, *


  * This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I’m building.
  I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha one
  because they are far from accessible, I’m not that good at PHP
  though to figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form
  for general contact but this will be to process order request. I’ve
  trawled the internet but all I can find is captcha solutions, can
  any one point me in the right direction? *


  * *


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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Prisca schmarsow
Hi,
just another vote for Mike's GB Contact Form - been using it successfully
for a while now and it works beautifully.
Had tried a lot of other options and form setup - this one is by far the
best, in my humble opinion anyway.

So - thank you, Mike ;)

Prisca


On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Joseph Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good call.

 ?php
 // check the answer
 if (strtolower($_POST['human_verifier']) != 'blue')
 {
 // incorrect
 echo 'Robot! Get out!');
 }
 else
 {
 // correct
 echo 'Welcome, Human.';
 }
 ?

 I agree that Mike's form is well made too.  It takes my concept and adds in
 all the other pieces you'd want for the complete solution.

 Joseph R. B. Taylor
 /Designer / Developer/
 --
 Sites by Joe, LLC
 /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
 Phone: (609) 335-3076
 Fax: (866) 301-8045
 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Mike at Green-Beast.com wrote:

 Hi Joseph,

  ?php
 // check the answer
 if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
 {
 // incorrect
 echo 'Robot! Get out!');
 }
 else
 {
 // correct
 echo 'Welcome, Human.';
 }
 ?


 You can make that a little more foolproof by setting the case of the text
 before matching, upper or lower it doesn't matter, but either way it'll
 prevent answers like Blue, BLUE, bLuE, etc. from triggering the Robot! Get
 out! error.

 Respectfully,
 Mike Cherim




 - Original Message - From: Joseph Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
 Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help


  If you want to avoid captchas, my recommendation would be to add a
 question that would foil a robot. Just explain that this field is for that
 specifically.

 Something like:

 fieldset
 legendHuman Verification/legend

 pThis section is used to thwart evil spam robots. Fill in the correct
 answer./p

 div
 labelWhat color is the sky? (hint: blue)/label
 input type=text name=human_verifier
 /div
 /fieldset

 You're PHP would be:

 ?php
 // check the answer
 if ($_POST['human_verifier'] != 'blue')
 {
 // incorrect
 echo 'Robot! Get out!');
 }
 else
 {
 // correct
 echo 'Welcome, Human.';
 }
 ?

 This is obviously a very, very simple solution but it has worked on
 reducing/removing form spam on a couple of my sites quite well while being
 an accessible solution. I'm welcome to an contradictory thoughts on this.

 Joseph R. B. Taylor
 /Designer / Developer/
 --
 Sites by Joe, LLC
 /Clean, Simple and Elegant Web Design/
 Phone: (609) 335-3076
 Fax: (866) 301-8045
 Web: http://sitesbyjoe.com
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



 Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd wrote:


 * Click the Essential eBiz Solutions logo to visit our home page 
 http://www.essentialebizsolutions.net *


  * Hi All, *


  * This is a mixed question, I have a contact form that I'm building.
  I want to add a human verifier to the forms but not a captcha one
  because they are far from accessible, I'm not that good at PHP
  though to figure it out, I already use the Mikes Green Beast form
  for general contact but this will be to process order request. I've
  trawled the internet but all I can find is captcha solutions, can
  any one point me in the right direction? *


  * *


  * Many thanks *

 Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd

 6 Gibson Place

 Meir

 Stoke-on-Trent

 www.essentialebizsolutions.net http://www.essentialebizsolutions.net

 ** Disclaimer ** : This email and its attachments may be confidential
 and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is
 addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author
 and do not necessarily represent those of Essential eBiz Solutions Ltd. If
 you are not the intended recipient of this email and its attachments then
 please contact the sender and do not use or forward this e-mail to anyone.

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 Registration No: 57200784. Registered Office: 6, Gibson Place , Meir,
 Stoke-on-Trent, Staffordshire , ST3 5PQ .

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Re: [WSG] Accesbility Help

2008-09-04 Thread Aldona

Hey,

I saw a funny one once. A site had a really basic math problem. Like 4x2 
or something. Type in the answer and you submitted the form. Because 
it's HTML it's accessible.


IceKat.

Scott Elcomb wrote:

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 11:34 AM, kevin erickson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

reCAPTCHA sounds good. I tried it out and the audio for vision impaired
visitors worked fine.
The service seems to be free and is set up to digitize old books that cannot
be scanned, literally, one word at a time. Pretty amazing!



From the reCaptcha about page[1]

To archive human knowledge and to make information more accessible to
the world, multiple projects are currently digitizing physical books
that were written before the computer age. The book pages are being
photographically scanned, and then transformed into text using
Optical Character Recognition (OCR). The transformation into text is
useful because scanning a book produces images, which are difficult to
store on small devices, expensive to download, and cannot be searched.
The problem is that OCR is not perfect.

I think there's a strong relationship between reCaptcha and this group
- via standards and accessibility.  :-)

[1] http://recaptcha.net/learnmore.html
  



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