RE: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> On Behalf Of Sander Aarts

> Ah, had not read that. Sorry ;-)
> But what's the reason for that as it is not really clear? 
> Why not have them popup like when you use a pointer?

Do you mean by using "focus"? But then keyboard users would have to tab
through the whole enchilada :-(
That's how the other menu works (the orizontal one), but it's painful to
navigate with the keyboard.
I did it that way so people can see/understand the difference of behavior
when it comes to tabbing navigation.

>> As a side note, the sub menu relevant to each current page is not
"skipable"
>> to assure that these links are accessible to keyboard users with JS off.
  
> I'm not sure I see which main menu item represents the current page. The
3rd perhaps, cause that's the one that acts different.

Each page has its own "default" sub-menu. It matches the nested UL that
corresponds to the top level item selected (thus it changes from page to
page).


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Re: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-07 Thread Sander Aarts



Thierry Koblentz schreef:

Still the same. In the vertical menu only the 3rd  item (Articles: E-K)

pops 
  

up/unfolds when navigating with a keyboard on Fx2 and Op9 (on WindowsXP).



Sander,
You need to use the *enter* key to trigger the dropdown, did you try that?
  


Ah, had not read that. Sorry ;-)
But what's the reason for that as it is not really clear? Why not have 
them popup like when you use a pointer?



As a side note, the sub menu relevant to each current page is not "skipable"
to assure that these links are accessible to keyboard users with JS off.
  
I'm not sure I see which main menu item represents the current page. The 
3rd perhaps, cause that's the one that acts different.



cheers,
Sander



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RE: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-07 Thread Thierry Koblentz
>> On Behalf Of Sander Aarts
>> Thierry Koblentz schreef: 

>> Please try again, I just noticed that I commented a "return false"
statement
>> in the script. 
>> The problem now is that I can't remember if I just forgot to remove it or
if
>> there was a good reason for that comment to be there 
>>:-(
  
> Still the same. In the vertical menu only the 3rd  item (Articles: E-K)
pops 
> up/unfolds when navigating with a keyboard on Fx2 and Op9 (on WindowsXP).

Sander,
You need to use the *enter* key to trigger the dropdown, did you try that?
And did you clear your cache?
Because I didn't check in Opera, but it is working fine for me in FF2 

As a side note, the sub menu relevant to each current page is not "skipable"
to assure that these links are accessible to keyboard users with JS off.

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Re: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-07 Thread Sander Aarts



Thierry Koblentz schreef:

  

src="http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp"; />
It doesn't seem to work well with keyboard navigation, at least in
Opera
9 and Firefox 2.



Please try again, I just noticed that I commented a "return false" statement
in the script. 
The problem now is that I can't remember if I just forgot to remove it or if
there was a good reason for that comment to be there 
:-(
  
Still the same. In the vertical menu only the 3rd  item (Articles: E-K) 
pops up/unfolds when navigating with a keyboard on Fx2 and Op9 (on 
WindowsXP).


cheers,
Sander


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RE: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> On Behalf Of Sander Aarts
> 
> Thierry Koblentz schreef:
> >  src="http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp"; />
> It doesn't seem to work well with keyboard navigation, at least in
> Opera
> 9 and Firefox 2.

Please try again, I just noticed that I commented a "return false" statement
in the script. 
The problem now is that I can't remember if I just forgot to remove it or if
there was a good reason for that comment to be there 
:-(

Thanks for the heads-up.

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Re: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Sander Aarts



Thierry Koblentz schreef:

http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp"; />
It doesn't seem to work well with keyboard navigation, at least in Opera 
9 and Firefox 2.


cheers,
Sander


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RE: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Ted Drake


> On Behalf Of Ryan Moore

> was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for
part of a web application i'm developing.


>From Thierry 
---
http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp"; />

HTH
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Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com

-

Also, the Yahoo! User Interface library has a nice menu script that is very
accessible. It even has full keyboard support. 
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/menu/ 

Ted






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Re: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Ryan Moore

thanks, this is a great solution :)

On 6/6/07, Thierry Koblentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> On Behalf Of Ryan Moore

> was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for
part of a web application i'm developing.

http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp";
/>

HTH
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Re: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Paul Menard


On Jun 6, 2007, at 1:18 PM, Ryan Moore wrote:


was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu  
for part of a web application i'm developing.




I've used this very simple package many times. http:// 
www.projectseven.com/tutorials/navigation/auto_hide/


Paul


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RE: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Swan, Henny
Try http://www.udm4.com/ from Brothercake as a starting place.
 
Regards, Henny



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Subject: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example


Hey Folks,

was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for
part of a web application i'm developing.

Cheers.

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RE: [WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
> On Behalf Of Ryan Moore

> was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for
part of a web application i'm developing.

http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/Pure_CSS_Dropdown_Menus.asp"; />

HTH
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Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com





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[WSG] Accessible Drop Down Menu Example

2007-06-06 Thread Ryan Moore

Hey Folks,

was just looking for an example of a good accessible drop down menu for part
of a web application i'm developing.

Cheers.


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Re: [WSG] Accessible drop down menu

2006-02-01 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Richard Stephenson wrote:
> Don't know if its exactly what you are after but i did a little script
> a while ago that turns a list of links into a select box that acts as
> a jumpmenu that loads a new url onchange. If the user has no js they
> just get the list of links.
> 
> http://www.donkeymagic.co.uk/listselect

This is brilliant! Thanks for sharing.

Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com
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Re: [WSG] Accessible drop down menu

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Collins



Hi Richard,
 
Thanks for that one, that will definitely come in 
handy in the future and I've got it bookmarked. Unfortunately though, in this 
instance the design won't permit me to have a list of links as it would be far 
too long to fit, so a select box is preferable.
 
Really useful  though, thanks very 
much.
 
Paul

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  menu
  > One option would be to use _javascript_ to submit using 
  "onchange", then> hiding the submit button in a nosript tag for those 
  who don't have jscript> turned on. Does anyone have a better 
  idea?Hi Paul,Don't know if its exactly what you are after but 
  i did a little scripta while ago that turns a list of links into a select 
  box that acts asa jumpmenu that loads a new url onchange. If the user has 
  no js theyjust get the list of links.http://www.donkeymagic.co.uk/listselectRichard--DonkeyMagic: 
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Re: [WSG] Accessible drop down menu

2006-02-01 Thread Richard Stephenson
> One option would be to use Javascript to submit using "onchange", then
> hiding the submit button in a nosript tag for those who don't have jscript
> turned on. Does anyone have a better idea?

Hi Paul,

Don't know if its exactly what you are after but i did a little script
a while ago that turns a list of links into a select box that acts as
a jumpmenu that loads a new url onchange. If the user has no js they
just get the list of links.

http://www.donkeymagic.co.uk/listselect

Richard
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[WSG] Accessible drop down menu

2006-02-01 Thread Paul Collins



Hello all,
 
Got another question today which I can't seem to 
find any new information on.
 
Was wondering with Ajax and some of these new 
methods coming out, is there a way of creating an accessible drop-down menu that 
doesn't use scripting? As in, can we have a drop-down menu that 
would submit to the server when you click on a selection, 
 instead of requiring a submit button?
 
One option would be to use _javascript_ to submit 
using "onchange", then hiding the submit button in a nosript tag for those who 
don't have jscript turned on. Does anyone have a better idea?
 
I realise it may be better practice to have a go 
button, but would like to know if it's possible to do without.
 
Cheers,
Paul