Re: [WSG] Accessible dropdown menus
Roger Johansson wrote: > * Semantic markup (i.e. nested unordered lists) > * Graceful degradation when support for CSS and/or JavaScript is > missing > * Keyboard navigable, preferrably with optionally expandable menus. > * Top level menu items should be real links > * Menus drop down on hover (obviously) Hi Roger, I have something that (I believe) fits #1, #2, #3 (not all browsers though), #4 and #5 http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/dropdown/demo.asp HTH, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessible dropdown menus
Maybe this is what you're looking for http://www.udm4.com/ (but I guess you're already aware their existence) Kim Roger Johansson wrote: On 14 apr 2005, at 09.07, Dmitry Baranovskiy wrote: I am not shure is my menu realisation fit to your requierments, but you could take a look: http://siter.com.au/dmitry/dyn-3-menu/index.html On 14 apr 2005, at 09.58, Jeremy Dowe wrote: There is a new article specially on the advantages and disadvantages of drop downs. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/ - all code inclusive. Hi, Thanks for responding, but nope, neither of those is what I'm looking for. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessible dropdown menus
On 14 apr 2005, at 09.07, Dmitry Baranovskiy wrote: I am not shure is my menu realisation fit to your requierments, but you could take a look: http://siter.com.au/dmitry/dyn-3-menu/index.html On 14 apr 2005, at 09.58, Jeremy Dowe wrote: There is a new article specially on the advantages and disadvantages of drop downs. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/ - all code inclusive. Hi, Thanks for responding, but nope, neither of those is what I'm looking for. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Accessible dropdown menus
Hi, I used on recently from Alist-Apart (www.alistapart.com) There is a new article specially on the advantages and disadvantages of drop downs. http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/ - all code inclusive. Jeremy Dowe Web Designer / Librarian 6/43 Devoy St, Ashgrove Qld 4060. H = +61 7 3366 5797 M = 0402 900 458 E = [EMAIL PROTECTED] W = www.jeronimo.net.au -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dmitry Baranovskiy Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:07 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible dropdown menus Hi, I am not shure is my menu realisation fit to your requierments, but you could take a look: http://siter.com.au/dmitry/dyn-3-menu/index.html On 4/14/05, Roger Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a client that insists on having a dropdown menu. I have tried > talking them out of it, but no. So I have to implement one of the web > gadgets that I detest most of all. > > Fortunately only a basic single level vertical dropdown is needed. I've > looked at some techniques but haven't found one that I'm completely > happy with. > > Here are the requirements: > > * Semantic markup (i.e. nested unordered lists) > * Graceful degradation when support for CSS and/or JavaScript is missing > * Keyboard navigable, preferrably with optionally expandable menus. > * Top level menu items should be real links > * Menus drop down on hover (obviously) > > Some of the techniques I've looked at: > > Suckerfish < http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ > > Neat, but not keyboard friendly > > Ultimate Drop Down Menu < http://www.brothercake.com/dropdown/ > > Fully featured, but s-l-o-w. Overkill for this simple menu. > > YADM < http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/yadm/ > > Close, but when tabbing through the menu the currently focused link > can't be seen unless you first expand the menu. > > Easymenu < http://www.easymenu.co.uk/ > > Also close, but menus are expanded automatically, forcing keyboard > users to tab through all links. > > Neither of these techniques seem to get it all right. At least as far > as I can tell. > > So, have any of you implemented a horizontal, single level dropdown > menu that you are completely happy with when it comes to accessibility? > > /Roger > > -- > http://www.456bereastreet.com/ > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > -- Best regards, Dmitry Baranovskiy ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Accessible dropdown menus
Hi, I am not shure is my menu realisation fit to your requierments, but you could take a look: http://siter.com.au/dmitry/dyn-3-menu/index.html On 4/14/05, Roger Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I have a client that insists on having a dropdown menu. I have tried > talking them out of it, but no. So I have to implement one of the web > gadgets that I detest most of all. > > Fortunately only a basic single level vertical dropdown is needed. I've > looked at some techniques but haven't found one that I'm completely > happy with. > > Here are the requirements: > > * Semantic markup (i.e. nested unordered lists) > * Graceful degradation when support for CSS and/or JavaScript is missing > * Keyboard navigable, preferrably with optionally expandable menus. > * Top level menu items should be real links > * Menus drop down on hover (obviously) > > Some of the techniques I've looked at: > > Suckerfish < http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ > > Neat, but not keyboard friendly > > Ultimate Drop Down Menu < http://www.brothercake.com/dropdown/ > > Fully featured, but s-l-o-w. Overkill for this simple menu. > > YADM < http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/yadm/ > > Close, but when tabbing through the menu the currently focused link > can't be seen unless you first expand the menu. > > Easymenu < http://www.easymenu.co.uk/ > > Also close, but menus are expanded automatically, forcing keyboard > users to tab through all links. > > Neither of these techniques seem to get it all right. At least as far > as I can tell. > > So, have any of you implemented a horizontal, single level dropdown > menu that you are completely happy with when it comes to accessibility? > > /Roger > > -- > http://www.456bereastreet.com/ > > ** > The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ > > See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > for some hints on posting to the list & getting help > ** > > -- Best regards, Dmitry Baranovskiy ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Accessible dropdown menus
Hi all, I have a client that insists on having a dropdown menu. I have tried talking them out of it, but no. So I have to implement one of the web gadgets that I detest most of all. Fortunately only a basic single level vertical dropdown is needed. I've looked at some techniques but haven't found one that I'm completely happy with. Here are the requirements: * Semantic markup (i.e. nested unordered lists) * Graceful degradation when support for CSS and/or JavaScript is missing * Keyboard navigable, preferrably with optionally expandable menus. * Top level menu items should be real links * Menus drop down on hover (obviously) Some of the techniques I've looked at: Suckerfish < http://www.htmldog.com/articles/suckerfish/dropdowns/ > Neat, but not keyboard friendly Ultimate Drop Down Menu < http://www.brothercake.com/dropdown/ > Fully featured, but s-l-o-w. Overkill for this simple menu. YADM < http://www.onlinetools.org/tools/yadm/ > Close, but when tabbing through the menu the currently focused link can't be seen unless you first expand the menu. Easymenu < http://www.easymenu.co.uk/ > Also close, but menus are expanded automatically, forcing keyboard users to tab through all links. Neither of these techniques seem to get it all right. At least as far as I can tell. So, have any of you implemented a horizontal, single level dropdown menu that you are completely happy with when it comes to accessibility? /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
