RE: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-07-02 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
While I agree with your general sentiment, I have to say I find the assertion that all people aged 35-40 or more are for all intents and purposes [...] web disabled and [...] in immediate need of web accessibility questionable, to say the least. I'd be careful of overstating the case like

Re: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-07-01 Thread Chris Dimmock
I'll just address one you raised Jens. Google does not currently parse external Javascript files. So unless Fairfax uses simple inline Javascript, and exposes spiderable URLS, that's probably good enough for most of us to use progressive enhancement methodology . Ask Lucas. When he gets

RE: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-07-01 Thread Ted Drake
...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Chris Dimmock Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 3:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account) I'll just address one you raised Jens. Google does not currently

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2009-07-01 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
If you are unsure that web accessibility should play a role, take this test. In a group of people have everyone stand up. Those who are unable to stand may remain seated. Now pose these three requests, in order: 1) If you are wear glasses, contacts and/or have had corrective eye surgery,

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2009-07-01 Thread Rick Faircloth
Web accessibility is being more properly handled by browser creators using magnification functionality, which more effectively provides a better, more satisfying user experience because images, as well as text, can be magnified. While previous magnification functionality has required users to

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2009-07-01 Thread matt andrews
2009/7/2 Dennis Lapcewich dlapcew...@fs.fed.us: If you are unsure that web accessibility should play a role, take this test.  In a group of people have everyone stand up.  Those who are unable to stand may remain seated.  Now pose these three requests, in order: 1)  If you are wear glasses,

[WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-06-30 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi all, I believe making sites accessible is very important. We are all used to ramps near stairs, lifts near escalators, lowered curbs at intersections. We need to get used to baking in time into our projects for accessible elements. Such elements are hidden headings (to aid semantics), skip

Re: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-06-30 Thread Jim Croft
I think it is pretty good. But one slight irony/anomaly - the 'low vision' link is in pretty small font. Took me a while to find it... notetoselftime for new glasses prescription/notetoself jim On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:46 PM, Jens-Uwe Korffjko...@fairfaxdigital.com.au wrote: Hi all, I

Re: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-06-30 Thread Andrew Stewart
On 30 Jun 2009, at 16:46, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: For an example of a high-contrast version may I suggest to check out the Sydney Morning Herald's Travel section (http://www.smh.com.au/travel/ ). Click on Low vision in the navigation bar (We're going to replace low vision with high contrast

Re: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-06-30 Thread Paul Novitski
At 6/29/2009 11:46 PM, Jens-Uwe Korff wrote: I found that some of these elements take quite some time to integrate. Creating high-contrast CSS can take up to a day (or more if you're new to it), non-Javascript states usually more than an hour because you also have to edit the script. By

RE: [WSG] Accessible websites (was: accessible free web hosting account)

2009-06-30 Thread Jens-Uwe Korff
Hi, thank you for your thoughts and feedback. After all, the few people that do spend any time at all on making their websites accessible, probably aren't going to be experts in accessibility, so probably won't do a very good job of it. Yes and no. If we had no pioneers which