[WSG] Actual Page Dimensions
Hi, Is there an article of chart outlining subtractions from design dimensions for browser chrome and optional bars. My current design is 800x600. Intuition begs some appearance of a horizontal and/or vertical scroll bar on some UA. I'm aware these will appear in Browser Cam, but was hoping for a preventative approach. I've goggled, perhaps asking the wrong question. Would some knowledgeable colleague assist? CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Actual Page Dimensions
http://www.chunkysoup.net/advanced/bugged/ http://www.evolt.org/article/Design_to_realistic_window_sizes/22/3359/ http://tobyinkster.co.uk/browser-sizes -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Need a Sydney based web standards contractor? You need my services. Recent projects for Glassonion, Freshweb, Cogentis, Ceneka ... http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://bookcrossing.com/referral/neerav Chris Kennon wrote: Hi, Is there an article of chart outlining subtractions from design dimensions for browser chrome and optional bars. My current design is 800x600. Intuition begs some appearance of a horizontal and/or vertical scroll bar on some UA. I'm aware these will appear in Browser Cam, but was hoping for a preventative approach. I've goggled, perhaps asking the wrong question. Would some knowledgeable colleague assist? CK ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Actual Page Dimensions[revised]
Hi, Sorry for the double. This is revised Is there an article of chart outlining subtractions from design dimensions for browser chrome and optional bars. My current design is 800x600 for centering horizontally. Intuition begs some appearance of a horizontal and/or vertical scroll bar on some UA. I'm aware these will appear in Browser Cam, but was hoping for a preventative approach. I've goggled, perhaps asking the wrong question. Would some knowledgeable colleague assist? CK __ Knowing is not enough, you must apply; willing is not enough, you must do. ---Bruce Lee ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Actual Page Dimensions[revised]
Hi Chris, Is there an article of chart outlining subtractions from design dimensions for browser chrome and optional bars. My current design is 800x600 for centering horizontally. Intuition begs some appearance of a horizontal and/or vertical scroll bar on some UA. I'm aware these will appear in Browser Cam, but was hoping for a preventative approach. I've goggled, perhaps asking the wrong question. Would some knowledgeable colleague assist? We have a minimum available screen size by monitor dimension chart as part of our glossary [1] (as part of an entry on the concepts of above the fold). Our entry includes a 'screen-guide': a background image you can use to resize your browser window to emulate the minimum visible screen size, i.e. assuming all browser elements and systems menubars are displayed. Note that the figures used are based on a Webmonkey article: Sizing up the browsers [2]. Although browsers have changed since 1999-2000 the trend seems to be toward less rather than more chrome, so should still be a useful starting point. [1] http://www.motive.co.nz/glossary/fold.php [2] http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/99/41/index3a_page2.html?tw=design Cheers, -- Andy Kirkwood Motive | web.design.integrity http://www.motive.co.nz ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **