[WSG] Actual Page Dimensions[revised]

2005-04-13 Thread Chris Kennon
Hi,
Sorry for the double. This is revised
Is there an article of chart outlining subtractions from design 
dimensions for browser chrome and optional bars. My current design is 
800x600 for centering horizontally. Intuition begs some appearance of a 
horizontal and/or vertical scroll bar on some UA.  I'm aware these will 
appear in Browser Cam, but was hoping for a preventative approach.  
I've goggled, perhaps asking the wrong question. Would some 
knowledgeable colleague assist?


CK
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Re: [WSG] Actual Page Dimensions[revised]

2005-04-13 Thread Andy Kirkwood | Motive
Hi Chris,
Is there an article of chart outlining subtractions from design 
dimensions for browser chrome and optional bars. My current design 
is 800x600 for centering horizontally. Intuition begs some 
appearance of a horizontal and/or vertical scroll bar on some UA. 
I'm aware these will appear in Browser Cam, but was hoping for a 
preventative approach.  I've goggled, perhaps asking the wrong 
question. Would some knowledgeable colleague assist?
We have a minimum available screen size by monitor dimension chart as 
part of our glossary [1] (as part of an entry on the concepts of 
above the fold). Our entry includes a 'screen-guide': a background 
image you can use to resize your browser window to emulate the 
minimum visible screen size, i.e. assuming all browser elements and 
systems menubars are displayed. Note that the figures used are based 
on a Webmonkey article: Sizing up the browsers [2]. Although browsers 
have changed since 1999-2000 the trend seems to be toward less rather 
than more chrome, so should still be a useful starting point.

[1]  http://www.motive.co.nz/glossary/fold.php  
[2]  http://webmonkey.wired.com/webmonkey/99/41/index3a_page2.html?tw=design 
Cheers,
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Andy Kirkwood
Motive | web.design.integrity
http://www.motive.co.nz
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