On 01/02/06, russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a far-from-guru-status Web Standards supporter/coder (I try) I have
witnessed, on this list and on another css-specific list, quite a bit of
condescending and 'forced-opinion' type of replies. It doesn't make for a
nice atmosphere
On 1/31/06, Lachlan Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Christian Montoya wrote:
Please send Clear Blue Day another e-mail and ask them if they have
any dinosaurs in their office.
This is not intended as an attack on Christian, nor anyone else. Not at
all. I'm dead serious on that
However,
As a far-from-guru-status Web Standards supporter/coder (I try) I have
witnessed, on this list and on another css-specific list, quite a bit of
condescending and 'forced-opinion' type of replies. It doesn't make for a
nice atmosphere when looking to these lists for help.
Completely agree. The
On 1/31/06 2:59 AM, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As for if anyone on this list is getting on a moral high-horse because
they know about standards, I have yet to see it. From my point of
view,
As a far-from-guru-status Web Standards supporter/coder (I try) I have
witnessed, on
russ - maxdesign wrote:
*snip
Completely agree. The most common off-list comments I receive are along the
lines of "a great list, very helpful, but sometimes a bit of attitude".
*snip
Part of the reason I stopped reading the list was that I was getting so many threads filled with near
From: russ - maxdesign [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Web Standards Group wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: Moral High-horse - was Re: [WSG] Failed Redesign and the
Media
As a far-from-guru-status Web Standards supporter/coder (I try) I
have
witnessed
On 1/31/06, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL. I've been guilty of editorializing (from differing perspectives)
at times and I find that slowing the trigger on the send button along
with a healthy does of mindfulness goes a long way :-). When you have
too many chefs in the kitchen,
Christian Montoya wrote:
Well if anyone did think my joke was offensive then I can refrain
from making it again.
Maybe some desensitizing is called for - on all sides?
I think we can all handle a joke from time to time... :-)
...along with the standard stuff.
Tom Livingston wrote:
Also, I
On 1/31/06, Lachlan Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also appreciate that changing 6 or 8 or 10 years of coding practice
and philosophy of web development is incredibly difficult
Just wanted to come back to this...
Let's not defend the hermit. If your practice has not changed in 6
years,
On 2/1/06, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And if your habits haven't changed in 10 years, then would you even be
making any money? Isn't the web only 12 years old?
Another thing to remember is that not everyone in web publishing has
any financial incentive whatsoever. We're also
Hi folks
Can someone pleeese just put this thread to its death?
There are much more important things going on in this list...this is a
waste of space...
I agree with Lisa, keep it positive folks...
ray
At 05:21 PM 1/02/2006, you wrote:
On 1/31/06, Lachlan Hardy
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I also
On 01/02/2006, at 4:54 PM, Ray Cauchi wrote:
Can someone pleeese just put this thread to its death?
There are much more important things going on in this list...this
is a waste of space...
No, its important that we define what behaviour is correct and
acceptable in the community we are
In the AustralianIT there is an article about the new redesign of the
Sunbeam website (www.sunbeam.com.au). I looked it up and it seems to fit
Joe Clark's description of a Failed Redesign.
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,17957834%5E24169%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html
My question is:
Kat wrote:
In the AustralianIT there is an article about the new redesign of the
Sunbeam website (www.sunbeam.com.au). I looked it up and it seems to fit
Joe Clark's description of a Failed Redesign.
http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,17957834%5E24169%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html
Yes,
My question is: is web-standards really considered a part of the
professionalism of web people considering that even the IT media
(AustralianIT) ignores this aspect?
Well, yes. The IT Media really haven't caught on to standards. That
doesn't mean web professionals haven't, or shouldn't.
I'd
Have a look at the Clear Blue Day site with flash disabled:
http://www.richardson.co.nz/cbd.gif
That's some quality web designing there alright!
heretic wrote:
My question is: is web-standards really considered a part of the
professionalism of web people considering that even the IT media
Kat wrote:
Maybe there is a member of Clear Blue Day here on this list and can
explain why they have chosen what they have?
I sent an email with questions about two of their decisions : why
table-based layout and why not include character encoding?
Their answer was that they used the
On 31/01/06, Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kat wrote:
Their answer was that they used the table-based layout because they did
not like the way style sheets render in IE, and that encoding is not
utilised for search engine reasons.
Wow. Those guys *really* have some catching up to do.
On 1/31/06, Kat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I sent an email with questions about two of their decisions : why
table-based layout and why not include character encoding?
Their answer was that they used the table-based layout because they did
not like the way style sheets render in IE, and that
Christian Montoya wrote:
Please send Clear Blue Day another e-mail and ask them if they have
any dinosaurs in their office.
This is not intended as an attack on Christian, nor anyone else. Not at
all. I'm dead serious on that
However, the comment above has reminded me of an attitude I see
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