[WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Tom Livingston

Hello list,

Need a little help. I am building a page - 
http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/ -  that was designed in a hard 
grid. Can I tweak this so that when text is scaled up, the boxes 
expand, at least vertically, to allow for the larger type as well as 
having the boxes maintain a min-height when scaled down - especially in 
the row that contains the image? I have trouble wrapping my head 
around the 'fluid thing'. I really can't change any design elements at 
this point. That's a whole education thing that has yet to happen with 
designers here...


I like the way stopdesign.com works (up to a certain size, all is well 
readable/useable)...


Also, in IE 5.5Win, there is something up with the borders. Anyone see 
what that is?


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Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Graham Bancroft

Hi Tom

Try changing the div widths form px to em, this allows it to stretch 
although I'm not sure what the conversion is, I think it's dependent on 
a few other things.


Hope this helps some

Graham Bancroft.


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Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Tom Livingston wrote:
 Hello list,
 Need a little help. I am building a page -
 http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/ -  that was designed in a hard
 grid. Can I tweak this so that when text is scaled up, the boxes
 expand, at least vertically, to allow for the larger type as well as
 having the boxes maintain a min-height when scaled down - especially
 in the row that contains the image? I have trouble wrapping my head
 around the 'fluid thing'. I really can't change any design elements at
 Also, in IE 5.5Win, there is something up with the borders. Anyone see
 what that is?

I think it'd be easier to start from scratch. IMO, this layout relies too
much on the position attribute. Use a 3 cols CSS layout that works, float
the buildings image and use the footer for your What's new area.
Re: IE5, I didn't check but there is a good chance that your problem comes
from its broken box model (the relationship between dimension of the box,
border and padding).

Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com

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Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Tom Livingston


On May 24, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:


I think it'd be easier to start from scratch.


My first reaction was... Yikes!, Are you nuts!, but then as I looked at 
it the light bulb came on over my head. I did redo it, although it 
isn't fabulous, it's useable at a couple of clicks up in size (FF Mac) 
and I'm happy with that. It's definitely better.


I am still lost with the IE5.5Win issue (Box model??). Can anyone see 
where I need to hack it?


Thanks!

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Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Tom Livingston


On May 24, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Tom Livingston wrote:



On May 24, 2005, at 12:22 PM, Thierry Koblentz wrote:


I think it'd be easier to start from scratch.


My first reaction was... Yikes!, Are you nuts!


Me again,

http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/people/

In IE5.5/6Win (and Opera 8 MAC) I am seeing extra space under the image 
and can't figure out where the heck it's coming from. Can you?


TIA

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Re: [WSG] Fluidity help

2005-05-24 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Tom Livingston wrote:
 My first reaction was... Yikes!, Are you nuts!
 Me again,

 http://66.155.251.18/platformrg.com/people/

 In IE5.5/6Win (and Opera 8 MAC) I am seeing extra space under the
 image and can't figure out where the heck it's coming from. Can you?

This is normal behavior. It's because your left bar is taller than the
picture. Remove padding on your elements in the sidebar and you'll see that
the footer moves up and comes touching your image. If you didn't set your
font-size value using pixels, you could have seen the same effects by simply
reducing text-size in MSIE.

Re: the box model, if you have a 100px wide box with a 1px border around it.
In IE5 that box is 100pixel wide (including the border), but in other
browser (including IE6 unless it is in quirks mode), that box will be
102pixels wide. That's what you've small differences in IE5 with the
borders.
And it works the same with padding.

HTH,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com

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