Re: [WSG] Follow up from Brisbane meeting

2005-02-09 Thread Kay Smoljak
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:35:14 +1000, Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Secondly - I consider myself fairly well versed in the voodoo that is
> javascript, but what in the flamin hell is that IE7 script? I got
> halfway down the thing adding spacing and indentation in the hope it
> would become readable, but all I got is... WTF?. Why all this
> horrible, horrible chicanery when a couple of IE css expressions
> should do the trick?

The IE7 script is VERY heavily optimised for size/download speed, cos
there's a LOT in it. You used to be able to download the commented
version from http://dean.edwards.name/ - although I haven't checked
recently.

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Re: [WSG] Follow up from Brisbane meeting

2005-02-09 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:35:14 +1000, Josh McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Secondly - I consider myself fairly well versed in the voodoo that is
> javascript, but what in the flamin hell is that IE7 script? I got
> halfway down the thing adding spacing and indentation in the hope it
> would become readable, but all I got is... WTF?. Why all this
> horrible, horrible chicanery when a couple of IE css expressions
> should do the trick?

As I stated in the first post, throwing in IE7 is a stop-gap measure
for today so I could share the URL. The IE7 script actually enables IE
to accomplish a plethora of css-realted tasks that better browsers
take for granted. You're absolutely right in saying that some
expressions would do the trick, that may be the solution I run with,
but I've still got an 8 hour day to get through before I can take
another look :(
For the record, the original script I (attempted) to use last night
works fine on my Win2k system at work, which is where I tested it
yesterday afternoon. It also works locally on my XPsp2 system at home,
but doesn't run (or throw an error) when viewing the online version on
an XPsp2 system...

Why all the horrible chicanery? 5 hours sleep in 3 days can make a man
do strange things to get the job done. ;) I'll post to my blog by the
end of the week explaining what went wrong.  In the meantime -- 
Andrew.doofus ++;  Hang on, actionscript isn't a standard!

More info on IE7: http://dean.edwards.name/IE7/

Cheers,
Andrew.

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Re: [WSG] Follow up from Brisbane meeting

2005-02-09 Thread Josh McDonald
Ok, firstly I'd like to say that I'm sure I speak for all involved in
thanking Andrew for his presentation, which I think went quite well,
despite IE's best efforts ;-)

Secondly - I consider myself fairly well versed in the voodoo that is
javascript, but what in the flamin hell is that IE7 script? I got
halfway down the thing adding spacing and indentation in the hope it
would become readable, but all I got is... WTF?. Why all this
horrible, horrible chicanery when a couple of IE css expressions
should do the trick?

Cheers,
-Josh


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 07:28:27 +1000, Andrew Krespanis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, that was interesting...
> It would seem after spending most of the time discussing how to get
> around IE's bugs, IE got its revenge by failing to load an integral
> part of the design.
> 
> To those who attended: the problem is solved now, I've removed the old
> min-max script and put in Dean Edward's IE7. This is a stop gap
> measure until I can further investigate this afternoon. Locally, it
> works perfectly. Online however, the min-max script doesn't load.
> Bah humbug! :)
> 
> Here is the url to the slideshow:
> 
> http://leftjustified.net/site-in-an-hour/
> 
> ...and the demo site:
> 
> http://leftjustified.net/site-in-an-hour/site/
> 
> The CSS file and form.js are heavily commented, but feel free to ask 
> questions.
> Now that I'm not standing in front of everyone I may be able to answer
> without getting thrown off by nerves!
> 
> Lea will most probably expand on this in a more formal sense, but I'd
> like to take this opportunity to thank Gary Menzel for providing us
> with such a fantastic venue for the last 8-10 months. Thanks Gary! :D
> 
> I know a few people are waiting on other urls that were mentioned
> during the night -- it was a late night and a VERY early morning for
> me, so please refresh my memory if there's anything in particular
> you'd like clarification on.
> 
> Cheers,
> Andrew.
> 
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[WSG] Follow up from Brisbane meeting

2005-02-09 Thread Andrew Krespanis
Well, that was interesting...
It would seem after spending most of the time discussing how to get
around IE's bugs, IE got its revenge by failing to load an integral
part of the design.

To those who attended: the problem is solved now, I've removed the old
min-max script and put in Dean Edward's IE7. This is a stop gap
measure until I can further investigate this afternoon. Locally, it
works perfectly. Online however, the min-max script doesn't load.
Bah humbug! :)

Here is the url to the slideshow:

http://leftjustified.net/site-in-an-hour/

...and the demo site:

http://leftjustified.net/site-in-an-hour/site/

The CSS file and form.js are heavily commented, but feel free to ask questions.
Now that I'm not standing in front of everyone I may be able to answer
without getting thrown off by nerves!

Lea will most probably expand on this in a more formal sense, but I'd
like to take this opportunity to thank Gary Menzel for providing us
with such a fantastic venue for the last 8-10 months. Thanks Gary! :D

I know a few people are waiting on other urls that were mentioned
during the night -- it was a late night and a VERY early morning for
me, so please refresh my memory if there's anything in particular
you'd like clarification on.

Cheers,
Andrew.

http://leftjustified.net/
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