Re: [WSG] Handheld Browsers
Hi I was going through the PEAR repository at pear.php.net today, building a new webserver with PHP 5, can came across Net_UserAgent_Mobile It's in the dirty browser sniffer basket but given the media attribute is so broken in handhelds it may be worth a try. It's funny that the corporations who make this things can propose a whole new tld called .mob instead of supporting the handheld attribute. Imagine the cost difference! Still, it'd be cool to get mafia.mob or marriedtothe.mob Back on track, if you run PHP just do a pear install Net_UserAgent_Mobile at a shell/prompt and then pass the right info as per the documentation. It looks like it'll give you screen width, colour depth etc etc. http://pear.php.net/package/Net_UserAgent_Mobile Cheers James David McKinnon wrote: The current issue of A List Apart has an article on styling pages for handhelds: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pocket/ David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Greenstock Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Handheld Browsers It seems browser incompatibility is as significant in handhelds as it is in PC's. I recently had the privilege of viewing a few of my sites on IE on a Pocket PC 2003 environment. Man does it suck! It renders the screen media stylesheet, and doesn't support the handheld media. Does anyone know how to fix this, apart from perhaps using a dirty browser sniffer? Marc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Handheld Browsers
The current issue of A List Apart has an article on styling pages for handhelds: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/pocket/ David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Greenstock Sent: Wednesday, 15 September 2004 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Handheld Browsers It seems browser incompatibility is as significant in handhelds as it is in PC's. I recently had the privilege of viewing a few of my sites on IE on a Pocket PC 2003 environment. Man does it suck! It renders the screen media stylesheet, and doesn't support the handheld media. Does anyone know how to fix this, apart from perhaps using a dirty browser sniffer? Marc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Handheld Browsers
From a post by L. Hardy on 15/06/2004 This is fairly typical of small-screen devices. Since most web developers don't use CSS properly yet, and many of those who do don't create "handheld" CSS, browser developers for small-screen devices have had to work out hacks to attempt to make the site conform to their requirements That's probably not clarifying matters, but I've only had one coffee today so I won't be firing on all cylinders yet... Anyway, read this : http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/04/12/index4a.html It taught me everything I ever needed to know about small-screen dev Cheers, Lachlan Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development & IT consultancy Mobile: +61 (0)403 8000 27 http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Marc Greenstock wrote: It seems browser incompatibility is as significant in handhelds as it is in PC's. I recently had the privilege of viewing a few of my sites on IE on a Pocket PC 2003 environment. Man does it suck! It renders the screen media stylesheet, and doesn't support the handheld media. Does anyone know how to fix this, apart from perhaps using a dirty browser sniffer? Marc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Handheld Browsers
It seems browser incompatibility is as significant in handhelds as it is in PC's. I recently had the privilege of viewing a few of my sites on IE on a Pocket PC 2003 environment. Man does it suck! It renders the screen media stylesheet, and doesn't support the handheld media. Does anyone know how to fix this, apart from perhaps using a dirty browser sniffer? Marc ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
