[WSG] Heads up re: skipNav and other jump links

2005-04-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Hi all,
I've noticed that many of you are using a container ID as a named anchor
(to create a skip nav for example), but I'm not sure if you're all aware
that this creates an accessibility issue: the user can jump to the location,
but is unable to tab past it.

Also, I've found that most of the techniques work when it comes to the
jumping part, but making sure tabbing navigation is not disturbed is not
that simple.
For example it appears that a name=content/a is not bullet proof while
a href=# name=content/a is.
I've also noticed that if one uses display:none to style a named anchor,
MSIE can't find its location (FF seems to be OK with it).
One last thing: for the UA, case is not an issue, so a jump link (#content)
would work, but tabbing navigation would fail if the anchor named content
is contained in a DIV named CONTENT.

Anybody knows why empty anchors are not 100% reliable when it comes to
tabbing navigation? I just can't figure it out...

Regards,
Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com

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RE: [WSG] Heads up re: skipNav and other jump links

2005-04-21 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I've been replacing my a name=deepcontent/a with h3 id=deepcontent
Or something similar.
Isn't that the most appropriate way of going?
Are you saying this would cause accessibility issues with tabbing?
I thought name was deprecated.

Ted


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Also, I've found that most of the techniques work when it comes to the
jumping part, but making sure tabbing navigation is not disturbed is not
that simple.
For example it appears that a name=content/a is not bullet proof while
a href=# name=content/a is.
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Re: [WSG] Heads up re: skipNav and other jump links

2005-04-21 Thread Thierry Koblentz
Drake, Ted C.  wrote:
 I've been replacing my a name=deepcontent/a with h3
 id=deepcontent Or something similar.
 Isn't that the most appropriate way of going?

Hi Ted,
Try the 2 methods and you'll see how the latter solution disturbs tabbing
navigation.
Using the former allows UAs to jump to that location, but once there, the
user cannot tab *from there*. On her next tab, she is brought back to where
she comes from, or even farther up.

Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com

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