[WSG] IE bug?
Hello, I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. I try to explain: I've made a website (www.tessadockers.be) and in the item agenda the pictures don't come always on the screen visually. After refresh, everything looks fine. In FF there is no problem. In IE (tested in 6 and 7) the images are on the right place, but they are not always immediately ready to see. If you go over the image (or the place where the image has to be) the alt-text is shown. Don't think it's the peekaboo. It's not the first IE problem of course, but I just can't fix this one right away :-s. Don't know if I explained the problem properly. If you have questions, please ask. Pages with the problem: for ex. www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm ... Why doesn't everybody uses Firefox ;-)? Hope someone can help me with that. Thanks in advance!!! Regards, Met vriendelijke groeten, STIJN AUDOOREN MARKETING: Webmaster Tel.:+32 56 43 40 80 Fax:+32 56 43 46 80 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contactsheet: STIJN AUDOOREN TVH FORKLIFT PARTS nv-sa - PARTS DIVISION BRABANTSTRAAT 15 - B-8790 WAREGEM Neem even pauze om onze website te bekijken en vertel ons hoe we u kunnen helpen: www.tvh.be/nl DISCLAIMER A HREF=http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html; http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html /A This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] IE bug?
Hello, I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. I try to explain: I've made a website (www.tessadockers.be) and in the item agenda the pictures don't come always on the screen visually. After refresh, everything looks fine. In FF there is no problem. In IE (tested in 6 and 7) the images are on the right place, but they are not always immediately ready to see. If you go over the image (or the place where the image has to be) the alt-text is shown. Don't think it's the peekaboo. It's not the first IE problem of course, but I just can't fix this one right away :-s. Don't know if I explained the problem properly. If you have questions, please ask. Pages with the problem: for ex. www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm ... Why doesn't everybody uses Firefox ;-)? Hope someone can help me with that. Thanks in advance!!! Regards, Met vriendelijke groeten, STIJN AUDOOREN MARKETING: Webmaster Tel.:+32 56 43 40 80 Fax:+32 56 43 46 80 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contactsheet: STIJN AUDOOREN TVH FORKLIFT PARTS nv-sa - PARTS DIVISION BRABANTSTRAAT 15 - B-8790 WAREGEM Neem even pauze om onze website te bekijken en vertel ons hoe we u kunnen helpen: www.tvh.be/nl Met vriendelijke groeten, STIJN AUDOOREN MARKETING: Webmaster Tel.:+32 56 43 40 80 Fax:+32 56 43 46 80 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contactsheet: STIJN AUDOOREN TVH FORKLIFT PARTS nv-sa - PARTS DIVISION BRABANTSTRAAT 15 - B-8790 WAREGEM Neem even pauze om onze website te bekijken en vertel ons hoe we u kunnen helpen: www.tvh.be/nl DISCLAIMER A HREF=http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html; http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html /A This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE bug?
Cant seem to see the problem you are experiencing. It works every time I look at the page in IE6 and IE7... Karl On 9/19/07, Stijn Audooren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. I try to explain: I've made a website (www.tessadockers.be) and in the item agenda the pictures don't come always on the screen visually. After refresh, everything looks fine. In FF there is no problem. In IE (tested in 6 and 7) the images are on the right place, but they are not always immediately ready to see. If you go over the image (or the place where the image has to be) the alt-text is shown. Don't think it's the peekaboo. It's not the first IE problem of course, but I just can't fix this one right away :-s. Don't know if I explained the problem properly. If you have questions, please ask. Pages with the problem: for ex.* **www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm*http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm * **www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm*http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm * **www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm*http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm * **www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm*http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm Why doesn't everybody uses Firefox ;-)? Hope someone can help me with that. Thanks in advance!!! Regards, *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE bug?
Karl Lurman wrote: Cant seem to see the problem you are experiencing. It works every time I look at the page in IE6 and IE7... In which case Stijn, I would guess you have images turned off in IE - try all the menus or maybe an IE user could help. There are two options for displaying text instead of images in IE see screenshots of both at http://www.ramin.com.au/linux/html-strawpolls.shtml M Karl On 9/19/07, *Stijn Audooren* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. I try to explain: I've made a website (www.tessadockers.be http://www.tessadockers.be) and in the item agenda the pictures don't come always on the screen visually. After refresh, everything looks fine. In FF there is no problem. In IE (tested in 6 and 7) the images are on the right place, but they are not always immediately ready to see. If you go over the image (or the place where the image has to be) the alt-text is shown. Don't think it's the peekaboo. It's not the first IE problem of course, but I just can't fix this one right away :-s. Don't know if I explained the problem properly. If you have questions, please ask. Pages with the problem: for ex._ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm_ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm_ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm _ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm Why doesn't everybody uses Firefox ;-)? Hope someone can help me with that. Thanks in advance!!! Regards, *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Betr.: Re: [WSG] IE bug?
Hi Karl, Thanks for your reply. It's not working overhere so I will give some more details... maybe this can help? Just tried in IE7 overhere and for ex. on page http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm I only see the first 5 pictures (in blue content part). There are three pictures not visible: 23 augustus 2007, 21 augustus 2007, 19 augustus 2007 In http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm for ex. I see the first 4 pictures. That means 10 pictures are not visible at this moment. After refresh, everything looks fine. I have the reflex to refresh, but most of the users don't. So in the meantime we have a lot of complaints. If you want to test, you need to clear your cache again, because if you go twice to a page everything will work... Not every visitor will refresh or is going twice to one page of course :-(. Met vriendelijke groeten, STIJN AUDOOREN MARKETING: Webmaster Tel.:+32 56 43 40 80 Fax:+32 56 43 46 80 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contactsheet: STIJN AUDOOREN TVH FORKLIFT PARTS nv-sa - PARTS DIVISION BRABANTSTRAAT 15 - B-8790 WAREGEM Neem even pauze om onze website te bekijken en vertel ons hoe we u kunnen helpen: www.tvh.be/nl Karl Lurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden door: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/09/2007 08:43 Please respond to wsg Aan:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc: Onderwerp: Re: [WSG] IE bug? Cant seem to see the problem you are experiencing. It works every time I look at the page in IE6 and IE7... Karl On 9/19/07, Stijn Audooren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. I try to explain: I've made a website (www.tessadockers.be) and in the item agenda the pictures don't come always on the screen visually. After refresh, everything looks fine. In FF there is no problem. In IE (tested in 6 and 7) the images are on the right place, but they are not always immediately ready to see. If you go over the image (or the place where the image has to be) the alt-text is shown. Don't think it's the peekaboo. It's not the first IE problem of course, but I just can't fix this one right away :-s. Don't know if I explained the problem properly. If you have questions, please ask. Pages with the problem: for ex. www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm Why doesn't everybody uses Firefox ;-)? Hope someone can help me with that. Thanks in advance!!! Regards, *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** DISCLAIMER A HREF=http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html; http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html /A This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Betr.: Re: [WSG] IE bug?
Well, that's the problem... the images are not turned off. When I was surfing around to find something that can be helpfull I did see a lot of people having the problem of images turned off. But in my case: I see some of the pictures, so... And don't have problems with other websites and images. There is no script or flash or... to show the images. I was thinking it's a positioning problem or something like that. A problem with div's? First I thought I could fix it by placing each image between p/p. Position relative maybe referencing peekaboo was another option. Well, I tried a lot of things, but without a working solution. Met vriendelijke groeten, STIJN AUDOOREN MARKETING: Webmaster Tel.:+32 56 43 40 80 Fax:+32 56 43 46 80 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contactsheet: STIJN AUDOOREN TVH FORKLIFT PARTS nv-sa - PARTS DIVISION BRABANTSTRAAT 15 - B-8790 WAREGEM Neem even pauze om onze website te bekijken en vertel ons hoe we u kunnen helpen: www.tvh.be/nl Marghanita da Cruz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden door: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/09/2007 08:58 Please respond to wsg Aan:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc: Onderwerp: Re: [WSG] IE bug? Karl Lurman wrote: Cant seem to see the problem you are experiencing. It works every time I look at the page in IE6 and IE7... In which case Stijn, I would guess you have images turned off in IE - try all the menus or maybe an IE user could help. There are two options for displaying text instead of images in IE see screenshots of both at http://www.ramin.com.au/linux/html-strawpolls.shtml M Karl On 9/19/07, *Stijn Audooren* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. I try to explain: I've made a website (www.tessadockers.be http://www.tessadockers.be) and in the item agenda the pictures don't come always on the screen visually. After refresh, everything looks fine. In FF there is no problem. In IE (tested in 6 and 7) the images are on the right place, but they are not always immediately ready to see. If you go over the image (or the place where the image has to be) the alt-text is shown. Don't think it's the peekaboo. It's not the first IE problem of course, but I just can't fix this one right away :-s. Don't know if I explained the problem properly. If you have questions, please ask. Pages with the problem: for ex._ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm_ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm_ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm _ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm Why doesn't everybody uses Firefox ;-)? Hope someone can help me with that. Thanks in advance!!! Regards, *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Marghanita da Cruz http://www.ramin.com.au Phone: (+61)0414 869202 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** DISCLAIMER A HREF=http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html; http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html /A This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: Betr.: Re: [WSG] IE bug?
Hi, I noticed your images are pretty large. Are you on a slow bandwidth connection like dial up? I know IE gives up if something doesn't download within a specific time period (I believe it is 60 seconds by default - could be wrong about the default). You could try bringing your images into PhotoShop or similar package and save for web. I took one image and reduced it to less 1/10th it's original size with no loss in quality. Best Regards, Kepler *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Betr.: RE: Betr.: Re: [WSG] IE bug?
Hello, Don't think this is the problem :-(. I checked a page and it's about 7 seconds to load, checked some images and these are around 60kb. (I did already save for web in Photoshop, but I understand it's possible to reduce more if that's necessary, but don't think that's the solution for the problem). The big picture at the top is big indeed, but this is visible in every page. Tried at home (cable) and at work (DSL). Met vriendelijke groeten, STIJN AUDOOREN MARKETING: Webmaster Tel.:+32 56 43 40 80 Fax:+32 56 43 46 80 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Contactsheet: STIJN AUDOOREN TVH FORKLIFT PARTS nv-sa - PARTS DIVISION BRABANTSTRAAT 15 - B-8790 WAREGEM Neem even pauze om onze website te bekijken en vertel ons hoe we u kunnen helpen: www.tvh.be/nl Kepler Gelotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden door: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/09/2007 09:27 Please respond to wsg Aan:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org cc: Onderwerp: RE: Betr.: Re: [WSG] IE bug? Hi, I noticed your images are pretty large. Are you on a slow bandwidth connection like dial up? I know IE gives up if something doesn?t download within a specific time period (I believe it is 60 seconds by default ? could be wrong about the default). You could try bringing your images into PhotoShop or similar package and ?save for web?. I took one image and reduced it to less 1/10th it?s original size with no loss in quality. Best Regards, Kepler *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** DISCLAIMER A HREF=http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html; http://www.tvh.be/newen/pages/emaildisclaimer.html /A This message is delivered to all addressees subject to the conditions set forth in the attached disclaimer, which is an integral part of this message. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] IE bug?
Stijn Audooren wrote: I have a little trouble with IE :-(. Don't know if someone can help me or if you know anybody who could help me fix the problem... Don't know if this is a bug or something wrong from my side. _ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/september.htm_ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/augustus.htm_ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juli.htm_ __www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm_ http://www.tessadockers.be/agenda/juni.htm ... Why doesn't everybody uses Firefox ;-)? Stijn. I had no difficulty with those pages in IE6 or IE7 other than I got real bored waiting fo them to load. The only page I checked for speed came in at 149.53 seconds on a 56Kbps modem. You may want to reduce the number and size of the images and optimize them. There a just a few markup errors to correct when you can get around to it. Best, ~dL PS Why doesn't everyone use Opera? -- http://chelseacreekstudio.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] IE Bug?
Hi, I've observed an inconsistent problem on my site with Internet Explorer. Basically, in the upper left area of the main (white) section a gray box that varies in size will appear occassionally. The box disappears when scrolling down then up again. Slight variations of this problem appear on any of the pages. Pictures: http://www.lymeinfo.net/glitch.html Any ideas? Thanks, Cheryl http://www.lymeinfo.net __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] IE bug: Displaying an inline unordered list in a div.
Hi, Works fine in Ffox and Opera. But IE 6 throws it's toys. Can anyone help? Files at: http://www.vuwkickboxing.com/demo/ Not worried about NS or IE 6 at this stage. Cheers, Ben Wrighton
RE: [WSG] IE bug: Displaying an inline unordered list in a div.
Just in case anyone looked and had the page render as something other than html in IE.That particular issue is fixed. And everything validates (Cheers Scott for the heads up). Ben Wrighton
[WSG] ie bug - content disappears on hover
Hi All I've been having a problem that I can't figure out. Naturally, everything looks good in firefox/opera/safari, but IE is freaking out. I can't send you to the page, it is in an intranet. However, I hope I can describe the problem and maybe you've seen it before. The page has three columns and each column has subsections. The subsections are in this format: div h3/h3 Content, p or ul /div When you mouse over some of these divs, the content disappears and the background color appears. It's like you are erasing it in blocks. Here is one div (imagine the x's are actual information. I need to remove any information on these messages) div id=communications h3a href=xx/a/h3 p a href=/ximg src=xx alt=x/a abbr title=Chief Executive Officer lang=enCEO/abbr x a href=//a xxx./p /div div id=websitehelp h3a href=//Get Help With a Web Site/a/h3 a href=xx class=logo /a p a href=/x/x/a x:/p ul lia href=/xxx/xxx/a/li lia href=/xx.htmlxxx/a/li lia href=/xxx/a/li lia href=//xxx/a/li /ul /div As you can see, the code is pretty simple. In #websitehelp, the link with class=logo is using a background image and pushing the text offscreen. The communications div has an image that is floated. The page layout is using the three column technique where the center channel has huge borders and the left and right float on top of the borders. It works quite nicely. I have added height:1% to some divs and that seems to keep the erasing from happening, but then the background images I'm applying with CSS don't always appear in IE. Like I said earlier, I'm grabbing at straws on this one. Any help would be much appreciated. Ted ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] ie bug - content disappears on hover
Drake, Ted C. schrieb: When you mouse over some of these divs, the content disappears and the background color appears. It's like you are erasing it in blocks. http://positioniseverything.net/explorer/guillotine.html In case it is not the guillotine, you could provide an URL to a simplified test case. Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE bug
Hi I've actually had a crack at fixing this problem for the guy, over at macosx.com. I originally thought that it may have been the 'ol IE whitespace bug (I asked him to try, but didn't get round to it myself). I then tried to use horizontal rules (which worked great on every browser except IE6 still). Anyway, just had another go, and have fixed it. Very simple really... here's my remake (if you don't mind, just wanted to test... I'll remove it from my server by Monday (or if you let me know earlier)): http://dev.c-o2.net/hippop.htm Here's the only CSS rules I've changed (have added only one extra, the img#bannerImage): /* --- */ img { border: none; } div#Banner { width: 586px; height: 193px; padding: 0px; border: none; margin: 0 0 7px 0; } img#bannerImage { border-top: 5px solid #000; border-bottom: 5px solid #000; } /* --- */ div#Main { padding-top: 25px; border-color: #d8d8d8; border-style: solid; width: 406px; margin: 0 0 0 178px; background-color: #F1F1F1; border-top-width: 5px; border-bottom-width: 5px; border-right-style: solid; border-left-style: solid; border-left-width: 1px; border-right-width: 1px; } /* --- */ #Menu { border-color: #d8d8d8; border-width: 1px; border-style: solid; background-color: #f1f1f1; text-align: center; width: 138px; padding: 12px; border-top: 5px solid #d8d8d8; top: 215px; position: absolute; padding-bottom: 25px; } And he also needs to add the id attribute to the image within the HTML: img id=bannerImage height=183 alt=Pifpaf src=http://www.hippopocampe.org/images/headers/rotate.php; width=586 / And that's it. I've also moved the #Menu position up slightly, it was mis-aligned with the #Main div (however, whichever position it is in, it's either wrong in Safari, or wrong in IE, ever so slightly. He could tighten up on his us of CSS a bit more (and could look into laying-out the page with floats rather than using absolute positioning), but all that comes with the more you use it. Nice site. On 21 Feb 2004, at 03:48, Lea de Groot wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:36:14 +1100, Chris Stratford wrote: Is that why when you close a form /form it leaves a gap... that ALWAYS annoyed me sooo much! Its only in IE - well as far as i know... Thats more likely to be due to the predefined margins/padding set in IE on the form element. (Each browser sets the default layout of some tags a little differently). Quite easy to change with css, eg: form { margin-bottom: 0; } as appropriate :) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * Kind regards Martin Chapman -- Web development, identity and design. co-ord.com Limited 9 Tynwald Road West Kirby Merseyside CH48 4DA Tel: +44 (0)151 625 1443 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.co-ord.com -- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] IE bug
Chris Have you tried : #id form { margin : 0; padding : 0; } ? It's always good to do this so as not to leave the margin and padding size to the user agent. Every UA will default to it's own spec if not told otherwise. Hopefully they'll listen to us. Cheers James Chris Stratford wrote: Is that why when you close a form /form it leaves a gap... that ALWAYS annoyed me sooo much! Its only in IE - well as far as i know... Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://www.neester.com * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
[WSG] IE bug
A guy on a message board I mod is having some issues with IE6 Win and his layout. Anyone with IE6Win care to take a look. I tried a few things with no luck, doesn't seem to be the PHP rotator causing issues but the image itself. Thanks, MD here is the website: hippopocampe.org here is the css: hippopocampe.org/styles-site.css in IE6 in Windows, the bottom border of the main image header (the rotate.php) is off 5 pixels like if the image had a 5 pixel bottom-padding. But it hasn't. That affects the header but also the 'main' section, as it too is 5 pixels off. Any suggestions for a workaround?
Re: [WSG] IE bug
Michael, Haven't looked but it may be a simple Win/IE6 carriage return bug. It seems that Win/IE is the only browser that renders carriage returns or line feeds as whitespace directly before a closing containing element: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/mystery/ Two things to try if this is the case. 1. move the end div up onto the same line as the image ... width=586 height=183 border=0 //div 2. add a single CSS declaration to the banner rule set #Banner { width: 586px; height: 183px; padding: 0px; border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border: 5px solid black; margin: 0px 0px 12px 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; } Add a new declaration: font-size: 1px; My weird theory is that this makes the carriage return small enough that it cannot be seen. HTH Russ A guy on a message board I mod is having some issues with IE6 Win and his layout. Anyone with IE6Win care to take a look. I tried a few things with no luck, doesn't seem to be the PHP rotator causing issues but the image itself. Thanks, MD here is the website: hippopocampe.org here is the css: hippopocampe.org/styles-site.css in IE6 in Windows, the bottom border of the main image header (the rotate.php) is off 5 pixels like if the image had a 5 pixel bottom-padding. But it hasn't. That affects the header but also the 'main' section, as it too is 5 pixels off. Any suggestions for a workaround? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] IE bug
I had thought about something like that, but never tried anything. I think I had a similar issue with a list a while back or something, can;t remember. I forwarded what you said on to the guy, hopefully this is the issue and it solves it. He was getting a bit unnerved with the XHTML/CSS way because of it. Thanks, MD On Feb 20, 2004, at 16:06, russ weakley wrote: Michael, Haven't looked but it may be a simple Win/IE6 carriage return bug. It seems that Win/IE is the only browser that renders carriage returns or line feeds as whitespace directly before a closing containing element: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/mystery/ Two things to try if this is the case. 1. move the end div up onto the same line as the image ... width=586 height=183 border=0 //div 2. add a single CSS declaration to the banner rule set #Banner { width: 586px; height: 183px; padding: 0px; border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border: 5px solid black; margin: 0px 0px 12px 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; } Add a new declaration: font-size: 1px; My weird theory is that this makes the carriage return small enough that it cannot be seen. HTH Russ A guy on a message board I mod is having some issues with IE6 Win and his layout. Anyone with IE6Win care to take a look. I tried a few things with no luck, doesn't seem to be the PHP rotator causing issues but the image itself. Thanks, MD -- -- here is the website: hippopocampe.org here is the css: hippopocampe.org/styles-site.css in IE6 in Windows, the bottom border of the main image header (the rotate.php) is off 5 pixels like if the image had a 5 pixel bottom-padding. But it hasn't. That affects the header but also the 'main' section, as it too is 5 pixels off. Any suggestions for a workaround? -- -- * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] IE bug
Is that why when you close a form /form it leaves a gap... that ALWAYS annoyed me sooo much! Its only in IE - well as far as i know... Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://www.neester.com russ weakley wrote: Michael, Haven't looked but it may be a simple Win/IE6 carriage return bug. It seems that Win/IE is the only browser that renders carriage returns or line feeds as whitespace directly before a closing containing element: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/mystery/ Two things to try if this is the case. 1. move the end div up onto the same line as the image ... width="586" height="183" border="0" //div 2. add a single CSS declaration to the banner rule set #Banner { width: 586px; height: 183px; padding: 0px; border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border: 5px solid black; margin: 0px 0px 12px 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; } Add a new declaration: font-size: 1px; My weird theory is that this makes the carriage return small enough that it cannot be seen. HTH Russ A guy on a message board I mod is having some issues with IE6 Win and his layout. Anyone with IE6Win care to take a look. I tried a few things with no luck, doesn't seem to be the PHP rotator causing issues but the image itself. Thanks, MD here is the website: hippopocampe.org here is the css: hippopocampe.org/styles-site.css in IE6 in Windows, the bottom border of the main image header (the rotate.php) is off 5 pixels like if the image had a 5 pixel bottom-padding. But it hasn't. That affects the header but also the 'main' section, as it too is 5 pixels off. Any suggestions for a workaround? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
RE: [WSG] IE bug
So move your form out to surround an area that isn't pixel-perfect critical.. the whole page if necessary.. P From: Chris Stratford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2004 2:36 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [WSG] IE bug Is that why when you close a form /formit leaves a gap...that ALWAYS annoyed me sooo much!Its only in IE - well as far as i know...Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Http://www.neester.comruss weakley wrote: Michael, Haven't looked but it may be a simple Win/IE6 carriage return bug. It seems that Win/IE is the only browser that renders carriage returns or line feeds as whitespace directly before a closing containing element: http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/mystery/ Two things to try if this is the case. 1. move the end div up onto the same line as the image ... width="586" height="183" border="0" //div 2. add a single CSS declaration to the banner rule set #Banner { width: 586px; height: 183px; padding: 0px; border-left-style: none; border-right-style: none; border: 5px solid black; margin: 0px 0px 12px 0px; border-right-width: 0px; border-left-width: 0px; } Add a new declaration: font-size: 1px; My weird theory is that this makes the carriage return small enough that it cannot be seen. HTH Russ A guy on a message board I mod is having some issues with IE6 Win and his layout. Anyone with IE6Win care to take a look. I tried a few things with no luck, doesn't seem to be the PHP rotator causing issues but the image itself. Thanks, MD here is the website: hippopocampe.org here is the css: hippopocampe.org/styles-site.css in IE6 in Windows, the bottom border of the main image header (the rotate.php) is off 5 pixels like if the image had a 5 pixel bottom-padding. But it hasn't. That affects the header but also the 'main' section, as it too is 5 pixels off. Any suggestions for a workaround? * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
Re: [WSG] IE bug
On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 14:36:14 +1100, Chris Stratford wrote: Is that why when you close a form /form it leaves a gap... that ALWAYS annoyed me sooo much! Its only in IE - well as far as i know... Thats more likely to be due to the predefined margins/padding set in IE on the form element. (Each browser sets the default layout of some tags a little differently). Quite easy to change with css, eg: form { margin-bottom: 0; } as appropriate :) HIH Lea -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems Brisbane, Australia * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *