Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-28 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 27/11/07 (23:43) Al said: I also caution the original questioner to be wary of buzzwords like Dom Scripting and Web 2.0 Fear not, Al, I take buzzwords like that with a large pinch of salt. In choosing to refer to Jeremy Keith's book DOM Scripting: Web Design with JavaScript and the Document

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 15/11/07 (11:15) Ross said: As a general rule of thumb if you are looking for online tutorials and examples that are teaching good modern JavaScript go find another one if it tells you to use things like: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing This

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Martin Heiden
Rick, on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 13:50 Web Standards Group wrote: On 15/11/07 (11:15) Ross said: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing In summary, then, does anyone recommend me hanging onto Visual Quickstart Guide: JavaScript and Ajax (6th

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Rick Lecoat
On 27/11/07 (13:17) James said: Hi Rick, I can't comment on the Visual Quickstart book as I haven't read it, but having only just started really looking at Javascript myself, I can vouch for Jeremy Keith's book being very good indeed. I have found it very easy to read (each chapter takes about

RE: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Peter Goddard
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Lecoat Sent: 27 November 2007 14:05 To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript On 27/11/07 (13:17) James said: Hi Rick, I can't comment on the Visual Quickstart book as I haven't read it, but having only just started really looking at Javascript

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Michael Horowitz
Subject: Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript On 27/11/07 (13:17) James said: Hi Rick, I can't comment on the Visual Quickstart book as I haven't read it, but having only just started really looking at Javascript myself, I can vouch for Jeremy Keith's book being very good indeed. I have

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Breton Slivka
On Nov 28, 2007 12:14 AM, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, on Tuesday, November 27, 2007 at 13:50 Web Standards Group wrote: On 15/11/07 (11:15) Ross said: document.write inline event handlers (like onclick) browser sniffing In summary, then, does anyone

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Al Sparber
From: Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course if you don't feel like reading it, then don't. You have the reccomendations here for the books that have good information (Unless nobody has yet reccomended David Flanagan's Javascript: The Definative Guide). When you're ready for good information,

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Nick Lo
From: Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Of course if you don't feel like reading it, then don't. You have the reccomendations here for the books that have good information (Unless nobody has yet reccomended David Flanagan's Javascript: The Definative Guide). When you're ready for good information,

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-27 Thread Penny Haslop
Word to Dave. This book is awesome. I've slowly been trying to increase my knowledge of programming, rather than scripting, and I don't think you could do better than Simply Javascript. All the best! -- Penny Haslop pennyhaslop.com On Nov 14, 2007 8:31 AM, Dave Woods [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-19 Thread Mordechai Peller
Ross Bruniges wrote: As a general rule of thumb if you are looking for online tutorials and examples that are teaching good modern JavaScript go find another one if it tells you to use things like: I generally agree, however: document.write If it's only discussed, but not

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-15 Thread James Jeffery
http://domscripting.com/book/ is very good too. Thats the one i purchased yesterday. Very good read! On Nov 14, 2007 10:02 PM, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 14, 2007 9:44 PM, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Mason wrote: I am looking for a really basic, plain

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-15 Thread Ross Bruniges
list but a good one to get started with! Ross Bruniges - Original Message From: Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, 15 November, 2007 10:34:09 AM Subject: Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript On 14 Nov 2007, at 22:56, Lars Michael Sørensen

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-15 Thread Lars Michael Sørensen
thanks for the info. Now I can start all over... :-/ /lmss 2007/11/15, Nick Fitzsimons [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 14 Nov 2007, at 22:56, Lars Michael Sørensen wrote: I recommend http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/ - they have a lot of other tutorials as well. Very easy to follow, all the way

RE: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-14 Thread James Leslie
Hi guys, Am comfortable with HTML/CSS and accessibility in general, but struggle with JavaScript. I'm not a developer by trade, am a business type (sales and marketing) so most oft he stuff is well over my head. I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. Either on or

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-14 Thread Chris Knowles
Rob Mason wrote: I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. I highly rate this book - easy to read and understand: http://www.quirksmode.org/book/ -- Chris Knowles *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-14 Thread Olly Hodgson
On Nov 14, 2007 9:44 PM, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Mason wrote: I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. I highly rate this book - easy to read and understand: http://www.quirksmode.org/book/ http://domscripting.com/book/ is very good too. --

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-14 Thread Lars Michael Sørensen
I recommend http://www.tizag.com/javascriptT/ - they have a lot of other tutorials as well. Very easy to follow, all the way through. /lmss 2007/11/14, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Nov 14, 2007 9:44 PM, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Mason wrote: I am looking for a

[WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Rob Mason
Hi guys, Am comfortable with HTML/CSS and accessibility in general, but struggle with JavaScript. I'm not a developer by trade, am a business type (sales and marketing) so most oft he stuff is well over my head. I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. Either on or

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Bruce
One thought. Being Web Standards Group, look for Unobtrusive JavaScript. Google helps :) Bruce bkdesign solutions - Original Message - From: Rob Mason To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript Hi

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Breton Slivka
Javascript is a big subject, and generally can't be summarized or simplified sensibly unless there's some particular aspect of it that you're especially interested in. Are you looking for something like a quick overview of the language itself, or perhaps some tutorial for getting a particular task

RE: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Robin Gorry
Hi Rob, I know how you feel, but once you get to grips with a few simple examples you will find it's not as scary as you think, it's like anything else the more you practice the better and more familiar you will become. I recommend buying Jeremy Keith's book called Dom

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Kevin Lennon
Rob Mason wrote: Hi guys, Am comfortable with HTML/CSS and accessibility in general, but struggle with JavaScript. I'm not a developer by trade, am a business type (sales and marketing) so most oft he stuff is well over my head. I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Dave Woods
I'm in a similar position and recently bought the Simply JavaScript book from SitePoint... it's easy to understand and all the books I've seen of theirs in the past have been up to date and use the latest standards so I presume I'm learning the correct way as apposed to following out of date and

Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript

2007-11-13 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Rob Mason wrote: I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. Either on or offline will do. A little of both... http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/tutorials/javascript/important http://beginningjavascript.com/ regards Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no