Re: [WSG] Images as accessible form buttons
Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: I then thought I should use , but realised that this doesn't work in all browsers. IE, for example, has got the nasty habbit of submitting name.x=0&name.y=0 when these kind of buttons are clicked, which can make it really difficult if you have got multiple buttons in one form and you wish to detect which of them was clicked. Maybe I'm missing something, but: why not test for the presence of name.x or name.y at the receiving end then, rather than name? And, if you have multiple buttons, shouldn't it be easy enough to give them different names and test for name1.x or name2.x ? -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
RE: [WSG] Images as accessible form buttons
> -Original Message- > From: Ben Curtis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2005 2:32 AM > To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org > Subject: Re: [WSG] Images as accessible form buttons > > > On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:54 PM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: > > > I then thought I should use , but > realised that > > this > > doesn't work in all browsers. IE, for example, has got the nasty > > habbit of > > submitting name.x=0&name.y=0 when these kind of buttons are > > clicked, which > > can make it really difficult if you have got multiple buttons in > > one form > > and you wish to detect which of them was clicked. > > The .x and .y values are according to spec; any browser that doesn't > do this is broken. I suspect this is your best bet. Is the reason > it's difficult to use multiple submits because you are not receiving > a name=value in addition to the name.x=xx&name.y=yy values? If so, > then that browser is broken as well. When you say it's "broken" you mean it doesn't adhere to the standards? Well, that seems to be the case with IE 5 and IE 6. These browsers only submits name.x=xx&name.y=yy values, no name=value in the querystring. Firefox on the other hand submits both. Whether you call it "broken" or not, the fact seems to remain that IE doesn't handle these buttons correctly, which in the long run means they are inaccessible. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
Re: [WSG] Images as accessible form buttons
On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:54 PM, Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] wrote: I then thought I should use , but realised that this doesn't work in all browsers. IE, for example, has got the nasty habbit of submitting name.x=0&name.y=0 when these kind of buttons are clicked, which can make it really difficult if you have got multiple buttons in one form and you wish to detect which of them was clicked. The .x and .y values are according to spec; any browser that doesn't do this is broken. I suspect this is your best bet. Is the reason it's difficult to use multiple submits because you are not receiving a name=value in addition to the name.x=xx&name.y=yy values? If so, then that browser is broken as well. ...an input type="image" creates a submit button... http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html ...a submit button is successful if clicked... http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#submit-button ...successful form elements have their values submitted paired to their names... http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/interact/forms.html#successful- controls -- Ben Curtis : webwright bivia : a personal web studio http://www.bivia.com v: (818) 507-6613 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Images as accessible form buttons
I know we had this discussion once before, but I was hoping to return to it to see if there are any new opinions on this topic. The question I have is what would be the best option to create images as form buttons in an accessible manner? So far I have always tried to use css to assign a background image to a , but that doesn't always work, in particular if your button text does not contain a standard font. I then thought I should use , but realised that this doesn't work in all browsers. IE, for example, has got the nasty habbit of submitting name.x=0&name.y=0 when these kind of buttons are clicked, which can make it really difficult if you have got multiple buttons in one form and you wish to detect which of them was clicked. Then there is , but to be honest I don't know much about this one. I assume it is not being supported in older browsers, so probably not the best accessible solution, either. Which leaves me with no solution, really. Is there a way of making it accessible? Or are our browser limitations that strong that there is really no way to use images as form buttons? Thanks for the opinions. Andreas ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
