From: Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10/22/07, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you tried outlook 2007 Lately? the way it reads/displays html has
been THE issue ever since it was released.
No. I'd assumed it displayed the same as OE6 or
To everybody who has answered me in this thread:
1. I do realize that it is impossible to use perfect markup today,
mainly because of the ghastly Outlook 2007. (A product I am boycotting
BTW - but tell the to the mobile phone manufacturers. It syncs with
Outlook is the ubiquitous sales
When Outlook 2007 came out it incurred upon itself the righteous wrath
of all standardistas thanks to the stupid decision to use Word as its
HTML/CSS rendering engine.
In a few days Mac OS X Leopard will be out with much touted templates
for the mail app. Here is my question: Are these made
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Sent: 22 October 2007 15:27
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Leopard mail and standards
When Outlook 2007 came out it incurred upon itself the righteous wrath
of all standardistas thanks to the stupid decision to use Word as its
On Oct 22, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Keryx Web wrote:
When Outlook 2007 came out it incurred upon itself the righteous
wrath of all standardistas thanks to the stupid decision to use
Word as its HTML/CSS rendering engine.
In a few days Mac OS X Leopard will be out with much touted
templates
It would seem odd if Apple went down the same path as Microsoft,
especially since using Word to render HTML/CSS in Outlook 2007 was so
well received by the web development community! I'm sure they won't
want to be accused of following Microsoft.
Also, I have a feeling they wouldn't have
Keryx Web wrote:
When Outlook 2007 came out it incurred upon itself the righteous wrath
of all standardistas thanks to the stupid decision to use Word as its
HTML/CSS rendering engine.
In a few days Mac OS X Leopard will be out with much touted templates
for the mail app. Here is my
Would you want the mail templates to use standards and seperation of
concerns? Last time I looked, it was well nigh impossible to get an
email that was standards based AND rendered properly in virtually
*any* email client. Im sure they could have made the templates
standards based, in which case,
Breton Slivka wrote:
Would you want the mail templates to use standards and seperation of
concerns? Last time I looked, it was well nigh impossible to get an
email that was standards based AND rendered properly in virtually
*any* email client. Im sure they could have made the templates
and my point was: Apple isn't advertising the templates as being only
viewable in Apple mail, it's advertising them as being viewable in
*any* mail client.
This implies that they do not have seperation of concerns, because
there's no standard of support for that.
Apologies- I didn't mean my original post as a direct response to
patrick, merely a response to the thread.
On 10/23/07, Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and my point was: Apple isn't advertising the templates as being only
viewable in Apple mail, it's advertising them as being viewable
Breton Slivka wrote:
and my point was: Apple isn't advertising the templates as being only
viewable in Apple mail, it's advertising them as being viewable in
*any* mail client.
This implies that they do not have seperation of concerns, because
there's no standard of support for that.
Sorry,
From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry, had to go back and re-read the thread starter. In rushing through
my mail, I thought the question was more along the lines of will it
support our carefully crafted HTML/CSS emails, but I see now that it
specifically concerned the shipped
Al Sparber wrote:
The problem with Outlook, I believe, is
more to do with what it generates, rather than what it can read/display.
Haven't had a chance to play with the final product, but from what I
remember it is indeed a fundamental problem with its display capabilities.
From
I'm not entirely sure. The HTML/plain text announcements we send out are
standards-based with one exception - we embed the CSS in the body section.
These mails display perfectly in Outlook, OE, Windows Mail, Apple Mail, and
Thunderbird. The problem with Outlook, I believe, is more to do with
On 10/22/07, Al Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Breton Slivka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you tried outlook 2007 Lately? the way it reads/displays html has
been THE issue ever since it was released.
No. I'd assumed it displayed the same as OE6 or Windows Mail (Vista).
A.. it
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