[WSG] Mac CSS issues
Hello; Well Georg came with a suggestion that is working for Windows machines - now this design is close to what it needs to be on Windows IE/Moz/Opera. My issue is now Mac - I have a mac in the office (Strawberry iMac os 8.6 IE 5.1) and on that one all layout is virtually gone with the wind. All id and classes seems to be ignored, and they are thrown all over the place, stretching the page to a three screen horizonal scroll. I am at a loss to why this happens. The page is question is: http://jpfco.com/testdesign/new/ Any help on/off list is GREATLY appreciated. Regards ~Veine Sent via the WebMail system at vikberg.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mac CSS issues
This may not help at all BUT... It looks fine on Safari (Mac OSX 10.4) and it would be very reasonable just to ignore IE 5 for Mac as even Microsoft don't support it. A way of working round the problem is to use server-side (or client side if necessary) to serve a cut-down version of the site to IE.mac (and ie4 and NN) users. Maybe I'm a bad designer/ programmer but I refuse to go out of my way to accommodate IE.mac on the grounds that it is an obsolete pile of cr [connection terminated]... On 27 Jan 2006, at 18:09, Veine Vikberg wrote: Hello; Well Georg came with a suggestion that is working for Windows machines - now this design is close to what it needs to be on Windows IE/Moz/Opera. My issue is now Mac - I have a mac in the office (Strawberry iMac os 8.6 IE 5.1) and on that one all layout is virtually gone with the wind. All id and classes seems to be ignored, and they are thrown all over the place, stretching the page to a three screen horizonal scroll. I am at a loss to why this happens. The page is question is: http://jpfco.com/testdesign/new/ Any help on/off list is GREATLY appreciated. Regards ~Veine Sent via the WebMail system at vikberg.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mac CSS issues
On 1/27/06 1:21 PM, Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks fine on Safari (Mac OSX 10.4) and it would be very reasonable just to ignore IE 5 for Mac as even Microsoft don't support it. A way of working round the problem is to use server-side (or client side if necessary) to serve a cut-down version of the site to IE.mac (and ie4 and NN) users. Maybe I'm a bad designer/ programmer but I refuse to go out of my way to accommodate IE.mac on the grounds that it is an obsolete pile of cr [connection terminated]... I second the motion... Those in favor of dropping the last shovelful of dirt on that browser, raise your hand... -- Tom Livingston Senior Multimedia Artist Media Logic www.mlinc.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mac CSS issues
LOLOL I'm not keen on serving different versions they usually end up creating more problems then solve them. Seems like Mac users are not liking this browser very much eh? Am new to macs this is my first machine running. What are you guys testing in Os9 and OsX with all browsers (Safari, iCab, Netscape - more out there?) Thanks in advance for answers Regards ~Veine -- Original Message -- From: Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2006 18:21:48 + This may not help at all BUT... It looks fine on Safari (Mac OSX 10.4) and it would be very reasonable just to ignore IE 5 for Mac as even Microsoft don't support it. A way of working round the problem is to use server-side (or client side if necessary) to serve a cut-down version of the site to IE.mac (and ie4 and NN) users. Maybe I'm a bad designer/ programmer but I refuse to go out of my way to accommodate IE.mac on the grounds that it is an obsolete pile of cr [connection terminated]... On 27 Jan 2006, at 18:09, Veine Vikberg wrote: Hello; Well Georg came with a suggestion that is working for Windows machines - now this design is close to what it needs to be on Windows IE/Moz/Opera. My issue is now Mac - I have a mac in the office (Strawberry iMac os 8.6 IE 5.1) and on that one all layout is virtually gone with the wind. All id and classes seems to be ignored, and they are thrown all over the place, stretching the page to a three screen horizonal scroll. I am at a loss to why this happens. The page is question is: http://jpfco.com/testdesign/new/ Any help on/off list is GREATLY appreciated. Regards ~Veine Sent via the WebMail system at vikberg.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Sent via the WebMail system at vikberg.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mac CSS issues
On 28 Jan 2006, at 3:09 am, Veine Vikberg wrote: Well Georg came with a suggestion that is working for Windows machines - now this design is close to what it needs to be on Windows IE/Moz/Opera. My issue is now Mac - I have a mac in the office (Strawberry iMac os 8.6 IE 5.1) and on that one all layout is virtually gone with the wind. All id and classes seems to be ignored, and they are thrown all over the place, stretching the page to a three screen horizonal scroll. I am at a loss to why this happens. The page is question is: http://jpfco.com/testdesign/new/ Your iMac runs old sofware... That site displays fine in Opera 9TP1 Mac, Safari 1.2 and 2.0, Firefox 1.5. Camino and Firefox nightly trunk builds have a problem, the side test (under the contact data) drops below the image. Nothing to worry about, it is a regression from a recent code base mod. IE mac has some more serious issues, at least one. It puts #content next to the #header, which is floated. Solutions: either add a clearing element between header and content, or just float:left #content. Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Mac CSS issues
-- Original Message -- From: Philippe Wittenbergh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2006 09:38:43 +0900 Your iMac runs old sofware... I have become painfully aware of that, posting this to the list, now I have to actually research a little more about the mac ;) to see if dual boots are doable etc. That site displays fine in Opera 9TP1 Mac, Safari 1.2 and 2.0, Firefox 1.5. Camino and Firefox nightly trunk builds have a problem, the side test (under the contact data) drops below the image. Nothing to worry about, it is a regression from a recent code base mod. Wonderful news indeed! IE mac has some more serious issues, at least one. It puts #content next to the #header, which is floated. Solutions: either add a clearing element between header and content, or just float:left #content. Philippe - you are a genius, I had to float all major id's but one by one the slowly went into the fold. Why this in mac users eyes anciant browser was of value to me is that this website has around 3-4% coming in with IE 5 on Mac according to the logs, and I'm VERY happy to be able to cater to them as well. Thanks again - this list is wonderful!! Regards ~Veine Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Sent via the WebMail system at vikberg.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
