RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-28 Thread michael.brockington
Besides, images maps are a royal pain to maintain. -Tim Not as much of a pain as some of the faux-image-maps that I have seen done with 'pure css' or even css + JavaScript. There are tools out there that make true image-maps point-and-click simple, whereas a small change to some of the

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2008-08-28 Thread Dennis Lapcewich
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[WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Jason Pruim
Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best way to do it? I personally think that some nice text

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Rob Enslin
Hi Jason, Why don't you turn the convincing angle up-side-down? Instead of pulling the 'accessibility' pitch focus on the performance and customizability of having a CSS-driven navigation (accessibility will follow naturally). Perhaps you could prepare two versions of a similar looking

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Schalk Neethling
Very good advice Rob. Rob Enslin wrote: Hi Jason, Why don't you turn the convincing angle up-side-down? Instead of pulling the 'accessibility' pitch focus on the performance and customizability of having a CSS-driven navigation (accessibility will follow naturally). Perhaps you could

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread info
Hi Jason, I would most certainly not allow the use of an image map. They are only useful for defining polygon or circular areas on maps (or similar) as links. They are not good for a sites primary navigation. For navigation that is consisting of an image I would create an unordered list:

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Ian Chamberlain
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: [WSG] Question about accessibility Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:39 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Jason, I would most certainly not allow the use

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Hi Jason, I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. That's not necessarily an inaccessible method, not completely anyway. Take my MapPop [1] for example. It's a list and CSS driven. works with keyboard.

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread info
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 7:39 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Jason, I would most certainly not allow the use of an image map. They are only useful for defining polygon or circular areas on maps

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
results. Rick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Rick, If any client were to tell me how

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Jason Pruim
:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Rick, If any client were to tell me how to code their website I would probably tell them to go elsewhere. The client is more than likely going to be a pain throughout the project and then also when making payment

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Joseph Taylor
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 9:45 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility Hi Rick, If any client were to tell me how to code their website I would probably tell them to go elsewhere. The client is more than likely going to be a pain

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Tim Offenstein
At 6:37 AM -0400 8/27/08, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best way to do it?

RE: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Ted Drake
and the image map in the header with careful use of positioning. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joseph Taylor Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 8:37 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility People have

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Nancy Johnson
I dislike image maps as there are so many better ways to do navigtation. However, client side image maps are 508 compliant and accessible if coded correctly. Server side image maps are not. see this article in http://www.webaim.org/techniques/images/alt_text.php#maps Nancy On Wed, Aug 27,

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:37:06 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread David Hucklesby
On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:37:06 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps to get to the actual links. I am wondering, how would I go about convincing my client that this isn't the best

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread fernando
; wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:37:06 -0400, Jason Pruim wrote: Good Morning everyone! I have a client that wants me to write his navigation mostly as a picture and then use image maps

Re: [WSG] Question about accessibility

2008-08-27 Thread Jens Nedal
Even if the text replacement should not look as satisfying as using a whole big image with image maps on it, you can still split up that image into the navigation part and use image replacement techniques where the Text is still preserved. Since most of those techniques hide the Text and put the

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2008-08-27 Thread chris . block
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