Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-27 Thread Ben Buchanan
I have two questions regarding images added via CSS. 1) I added an image for each bullet via CSS .box ul li. How do I specify alt text in this situation? Do I add alt text in the HTML...even though there would be no image if CSS was disabled? Since it adds no meaning/information, it doesn't

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-27 Thread Melissa Forrest
There is really no hard and fast rule that states all presentational images should be background images, there are plenty of situations where is is not practical or inappropriate, as others have stated if an images is purely for presentation than an empty alt attribute (alt=) is appropriate. Not

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread John Faulds
If the images are in the CSS, then there's no need for alt attributes. Conversely, if you believe an image should have alt text, then it shouldn't be in the CSS as a bg-image. On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:20:23 +1000, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi again... Whoops...butterfingers

[WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread Simon Cockayne
Hi again... Whoops...butterfingers I unwittingly hit send before completing my email. Anywise...here is what it should have said: Hi, WCAG 1.0 (http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG10/) states: Guideline 1. Provide equivalent alternatives to auditory and visual content Provide content that, when

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread Dave Woods
As a general rule, any images that add to the content or are required for navigation should be applied as a foreground image using the img tag and an alt attribute should be applied. If an image is purely for presentation then use CSS and apply it as a background image. Obviously there are

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
If an image is purely for presentation then use CSS and apply it as a background image. I personally don't think of this as some hard-and-fast rule, or even a rule-of-thumb since it's often impractical. I will often apply a decorative or supporting image for visual purposes, but if I have to

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread James Jeffery
This is my view. If an image is for aesthetic purposes, it should be in with the CSS. If an image is to be used as part of the content, for example, the image of your wife, then it should be within img tags. I would say that is common sense to be honest. If you turn of the CSS would you want

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread Designer
James Jeffery wrote: This is my view. If an image is for aesthetic purposes, it should be in with the CSS. If an image is to be used as part of the content, for example, the image of your wife, then it should be within img tags. I would say that is common sense to be honest. If you turn of

Re: [WSG] Re: Alt text for purely aesthetic images

2007-10-26 Thread JonMarc Wright
Except, James, that folk who make elastic layouts very often want the aesthetics (graphics) to expand along with the text etc. This is not a problem if you size the graphics in em units, but of course you can't do that with backgrounds. ?? Bob backgrounds can be positioned using