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Kindly enumerate to us what meta tags must be retained and what tags that we can do without. This I presume is based on the current standards. Thanks. :-) jojo www.pwag.org www.mccid.edu.ph On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 09:35:28 1000, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: From: Bruce Morrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:37:55 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] Robot meta tags On Tue, 2007-07-03 at 19:04 -0400, Brian Cummiskey wrote: Joyce Evans wrote: Is it important to include the following as part of the meta tags on web pages? meta name=robots content=index,follow No. Meta tags are all but depreciated at this point. he only common one still being used is the langauge/charset type. Most possibly getting off topic but meta name=description content =meta description here / WILL be used by google for the description under the title in search results. Cheers Bruce -- Bruce Morrison Solution Architect designIT Pty Ltd Website Content Management Specialists *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Olajide I’ve had a quick look at your code and noticed this line: div align=center above the table... tag. Maybe this is the cause of the problem? Jane Trimmer Senior Website Developer SugarCat Publishing www.sugarcat.co.uk From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 June 2007 08:48 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org From: Olajide Olaolorun [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:45:15 -0400 Subject: Table Problem Can some help me with this problem: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com/problem.html Its right when i view it in Firefox, but in IE, its problematic. Can anyone help me out as to why it is not aligning right? -- Best Regards, Olajide Olaolorun ### Personal: http://www.olajideolaolorun.com Business: http://www.tripleo.biz ** Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.6/865 - Release Date: 24/06/2007 08:33 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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You can also solve the IE problem using conditional statements in your
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Disappearing positioned footer in IE7 - works in IE6
Hi,
IE 7 now supports the *html hack, so the 'position: relative' style is
bein
g
applied. You can still add hacks for IE 6 and/or IE 7 but it's tricky..
If you need to send something to IE6 and nothing else: use the
underscore
attribute hack ( border:1px solid pink;)
If you want to send something to IE7 AND IE6, use the attribute hack
(*border:1px solid black;).
If you want to send something to IE7 and NOT IE6, use a combination
(*border:1px solid black; border:1px solid pink;).
Try adding an underscore in the IE 6 class...
*html #bottom nav { /*Enables the footer to be positoned below the
wrapper in IE6*/
position: relative;
bottom: -75px;
right: 25px;
text-align: right;
width: 100%;
height: 50px;
}
Al
On 4/24/07, Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All -
I was having an absolutely-positioned footer problem in IE6 which was
fixed with the following:
#bottom nav {/*Compliant Browsers*/
position: absolute;
bottom: -75px;
right: 25px;
text-align: right;
width: 100%;
height: 50px;
}
*html #bottom nav { /*Enables the footer to be positoned below
the
wrapper in IE6*/
position: relative;
bottom: -75px;
right: 25px;
text-align: right;
width: 100%;
height: 50px;
}
Yes, well, now that IE 7 has come out the footer ***Poof!*** vanishes
-
like it did under IE6 previous to the implementation of he above *html
declaration.
Could someone give me a lead on what to do about this issue in IE 7?
Unfortunatly, I am not allowed to use conditional comments to issue
version specific declarations - which makes problems
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This book could be useful as well. We plan on buying it next week ourselves. http://www.amazon.com/Communicating-Design-Developing-Documentation-Planning /dp/0321392353/ref=cm_taf_title_featured?ie=UTF8tag=tellafriend-20 -- Regards, Tony Chester | Web Director OnWired Next Generation Web Solutions Local Number: 919.647.9403 Mobile: 919.434.6651 FAX: 630.214.0810 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.OnWired.net On 4/8/07 8:18 PM, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: From: Lee Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 15:28:53 +0100 Subject: Client Side Development Process Hi all I wonder if anyone can offer some advice. I've recently landed a new development position within a very credible digital agency as part of their client side development team. One of our things to do is develop a rock solid development process we work through for every project. Traditionally we don't get our hand dirty until a client signs off what the design team have produced, however we are going to try to change this and get involved from an earlier point in the project. Would anyone like to offer any advice on setting up this process, and any advice on things to take into consideration for inclusion of the process. It'd be great to compile some documentation, and share it with the rest of the community... We're starting from a blank canvas so any advice appreciated. Kind Regards Lee Powell From: Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2007 08:42:17 +0800 Subject: Re: [WSG] Client Side Development Process The best suggestion I can come up with is an ebook on grayscreen prototyping Hear are my thoughts etc about it: http://germworks.net/blog/2007/03/28/clients-vs-developer-wars-review/ On 4/7/07, Lee Powell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I wonder if anyone can offer some advice. I've recently landed a new development position within a very credible digital agency as part of their client side development team. One of our things to do is develop a rock solid development process we work through for every project. Traditionally we don't get our hand dirty until a client signs off what the design team have produced, however we are going to try to change this and get involved from an earlier point in the project. Would anyone like to offer any advice on setting up this process, and any advice on things to take into consideration for inclusion of the process. It'd be great to compile some documentation, and share it with the rest of the community... We're starting from a blank canvas so any advice appreciated. Kind Regards Lee Powell *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Handled! (and look! I didn't curse even once! ;)) Lea -- Lea de Groot Core Group Member On 2 Mar 2007 21:13:18 -0800, RBaggs wrote: Subject: Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [ZONEALARM CHALLENGE] to: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mlf-Communication-Key: abbb-dbcg-aaab-fbch-baeb-cbbj;disposition=internal Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/related; boundary=__1172898796.1051.MlfMimeMail__ snip *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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I used the following as the foundation of my current approach to style sheets. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/sample.html However, I'm told that my code is therefore not XHTML compliant because of my use of uppercase. So who then is HTML4 relevant to? ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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sime wrote: I used the following as the foundation of my current approach to style sheets. http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/sample.html If I am understanding it correctly, thats not meant for page developers/designers to base from, its meant for browser developers to start from. You can expect that the default styles supplied by each browser will be something like these. For a web developer to start with something like this would put an un-necessary large download on each page. (Yes, yes, I know - caching - but its still redundant) However, I'm told that my code is therefore not XHTML compliant because of my use of uppercase. So who then is HTML4 relevant to? I don't really understand the question. As written, the css shown will work under HTML dtds (and XHTML transitional? I'm not sure as I never use it) but not XHTML strict DTDs. To make it work correctly for XHTML strict, you should change each tag name to lowercase. Its a trivial change. HIH! Lea ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Lea de Groot wrote: sime wrote: However, I'm told that my code is therefore not XHTML compliant because of my use of uppercase. So who then is HTML4 relevant to? I don't really understand the question. As written, the css shown will work under HTML dtds (and XHTML transitional? I'm not sure as I never use it) but not XHTML strict DTDs. No, it will not work under XHTML at all. The DOCTYPE is irrelevant, XHTML is case sensitive and uppercase element selectors will not match anything in XHTML. It will only work for text/html. To make it work correctly for XHTML strict, you should change each tag name to lowercase. Its a trivial change. There's little point for authors to use that stylesheet, it is intended as a guide for browser implementors and was supposedly based on the default styles applied by browsers at the time. (Although there are still many differences between that stylesheet and real world browsers) -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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a href=#Back to Top/a Is there an issue with using this for screenreaders? Wouldn't they activate this link and nothing would happen? Does this work effectively across browsers to scroll the page to the top though? I've found it works on firefox, ie, opera on PC (winXP). Thanks, On 27/02/06, Lachlan Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Novitski wrote: At 05:35 AM 2/27/2006, Curby wrote: What is the recommended way for linking back to the top of the page? I can't link to the id of my H1 because of my CSS. Whoa. Stop right there. How can CSS stop you from linking to an h1 that's got an id? It depends where the H1 is positioned. If it's not at the top, the page won't be scrolled to the top. -- Lachlan Hunt http://lachy.id.au/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help Tim Hill CA Designer tel: +612 9937 0792 fax: +612 9937 0546 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Paul Novitski wrote: Wouldn't activating the link in a screen-reader simply move the cursor (reading point) from the link to the beginning of the page? It's been a while since I've sat down with a screen reader, but from my limited experience with JAWS the link would be announced as a same page link (or similar) and activating it would indeed move the cursor/caret/focus to the top, as expected. P -- Patrick H. Lauke __ re·dux (adj.): brought back; returned. used postpositively [latin : re-, re- + dux, leader; see duke.] www.splintered.co.uk | www.photographia.co.uk http://redux.deviantart.com __ Web Standards Project (WaSP) Accessibility Task Force http://webstandards.org/ __ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Forgive me, but that seems to be a complicated way of
doing things...
Why not break the image up into 2 parts and make the entire left half an a:href
with css hover? The absolute positioning doesn't seem necessary.
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Hi,
I'm having problem with background image for a:hover and IE
CSS
#header-image img{float:left;}
#header a:hover{position:absolute;width:410px; z-index:10;
background:transparent
url(
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Problem : http://jadmadi.net/blog/ hover
your mouse over the header
the left side of the header image.
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Hey Drew, Well, I tried min-width 300px and then removed the min-width completely and it still didnt work :/ Barrie From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Drew Trusz Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:22 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Barrie North wrote: Hi all, I have a fluid layout and for the life of me can't get the image to be cropped as the screen adjusts. Here is the link: http://www.compassdesigns.net/joomlashack/ If you resize the window the image will stay on top. I have played with z-index, overflow:hidden. I can't for the life of me get this to work. Anyone fancy jumping in and pointing out the obvious thing I am missing J ? Barrie North You've set the wrapper at min-width of 760px. The containing box for the image won't be in overflow condition at lesser widths. drew
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Barrie North wrote: Hi all, I have a fluid layout and for the life of me can't get the image to be "cropped" as the screen adjusts. Here is the link: http://www.compassdesigns.net/joomlashack/ If you resize the window the image will stay on top. I have played with z-index, overflow:hidden. I can't for the life of me get this to work. Anyone fancy jumping in and pointing out the obvious thing I am missing J ? Barrie North You've set the wrapper at min-width of 760px. The containing box for the image won't be in overflow condition at lesser widths. drew
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On 12/21/05, Barrie North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Drew, Well, I tried min-width 300px and then removed the min-width completely and it still didn't work :/ Barrie That's what I get for not trying the solution before profoundly pronouncing it. This one is better. If I remove the absolute positioning of the #headerbanner the headerimg clips. I didn't take all the images just the headerimg. There is still a scroll bar but the img clips. Haven't played with min-max or other absolutes to see if that affects the scroll. drew
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On 12/21/05, Barrie North [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Drew, Well, I tried min-width 300px and then removed the min-width completely and it still didn't work :/ Barrie Only way I was able to eliminate the scroll is to make the headerimg a background image (as someone previously suggested). The image has a width so when it is used in the foreground that width becomes the minimum width the page can be reduced to. A page will only shrink to the size of the smallest irreducible element -- the headerimg in this case. You can see how this works by taking out the wrapper width and then seeing where the scroll starts. If your eyes and sense of proportion are better than mine, you can see this even with the wrapper width left in place.
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Original message sent on the Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:29:49 1000 by wsg@webstandardsgroup.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** In evidence piece of your code containig images element definition div id=banner_main img src=/_resource/image/banner_main01.gif alt= width=172 height=112 img src=/_resource/image/banner_main02.jpg alt= width=551 height=112 /div div id=banner_secondary img src=/_resource/image/banner_secondary01.gif alt= width=364 height=116 img src=/_resource/image/banner_secondary02.gif alt= width=359 height=116 /div Right, IMHO in this case you don't need 2 division so what happen if you close all the four images in the same division ? Give a me a feedback Regards Morpheus ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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2005/10/19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Original message sent on the Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:29:49 1000 by wsg@webstandardsgroup.org ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** In evidence piece of your code containig images element definition div id=banner_main img src=/_resource/image/banner_main01.gif alt= width=172 height=112 img src=/_resource/image/banner_main02.jpg alt= width=551 height=112 /div div id=banner_secondary img src=/_resource/image/banner_secondary01.gif alt= width=364 height=116 img src=/_resource/image/banner_secondary02.gif alt= width=359 height=116 /div Right, IMHO in this case you don't need 2 division so what happen if you close all the four images in the same division ? Give a me a feedback Regards Morpheus ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** hmm I'm not sure what are you talking about?! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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On 10/15/05, Stefan wrote:
How can I make the Table fill the full width of the column in FireFox and
IE 6?
same thing happened to me with that type of layout.
I added the following rules to the tables and it sorted it for me:
table {width:100%;float:left}
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I was working with A List Apart's Negative Margins and I ran in to an annoying problem. When I put a Table (it's tabular data I swear) in to the center column (the one that flexes) I can't make it fill the entire width of the column with out breaking out of the column and forcing the float on the right to wrap below all the center content. If I make the width of the Table: Auto it fills the width in Firefox but does not expand o fill the width in IE 6. If I make the width of the Table: 100% it fills the width in Firefox but breaks the column in IE 6 and forces the float to wrap below. How can I make the Table fill the full width of the column in FireFox and IE 6? Any help would be amazing. Thanks Stefan Hayden
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hi, What is the background CSS hack for Saffari on a Mac? http://jeronimo.net.au see example. Jez. -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 8:56 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org It seams I've been replying to list members and not to the list itself, and including the wrong quotations. I changed my subscription from pop mail to http to be able to read all of them more easily, am still not used to this label's thing. Since the discussions do not add anything new to the list I will not repeat them, unless I find some miraculous solution. Anyway, please forgive my mistake, and of course, no need to reply this one. Thank you all, best regards, Isabel Santos ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Title: RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Please remove me from your list. I cancelled last week and got confirmation but for some reason I'm still getting emails. Thank you, -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org] Sent: Mon 9/26/2005 2:03 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why, it's because your address was bouncing for at least 5 posts. To revert to a standard subscription, please log into the website - http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/ - and select Edit your login details and mail list subscriptions from the members home page and change the selection toFull WSG list. You can change your subscription at any time and you can now select a different email address for WSG and WSGCMS list posts. You can also suspend email from these lists. To unsubscribe entirely and leave the group, please log into the website and select Unsubscribe from the members home page. You can reach Russ and Peter the list managers at info@webboy.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than WSG Digest There are some problems with the Digest version. Our apologies for this. It is the way that SmarterMail handles it so that HTML email and attachments are not put into the digest as source code. We are STILL talking with the software developers about this.
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Title: RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Please remove me from your list. I cancelled last week and got confirmation but for some reason I'm still getting emails. Thank you, -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:wsg@webstandardsgroup.org] Sent: Mon 9/26/2005 2:03 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why, it's because your address was bouncing for at least 5 posts. To revert to a standard subscription, please log into the website - http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/ - and select Edit your login details and mail list subscriptions from the members home page and change the selection toFull WSG list. You can change your subscription at any time and you can now select a different email address for WSG and WSGCMS list posts. You can also suspend email from these lists. To unsubscribe entirely and leave the group, please log into the website and select Unsubscribe from the members home page. You can reach Russ and Peter the list managers at info@webboy.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than WSG Digest There are some problems with the Digest version. Our apologies for this. It is the way that SmarterMail handles it so that HTML email and attachments are not put into the digest as source code. We are STILL talking with the software developers about this.
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Please remove me from your mailing list. KENNETH KING Internet Media Designer www.sybrondental.com -Original Message- From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:49 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why, it's because your address was bouncing for at least 5 posts. To revert to a standard subscription, please log into the website - http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/ - and select Edit your login details and mail list subscriptions from the members home page and change the selection toFull WSG list. You can change your subscription at any time and you can now select a different email address for WSG and WSGCMS list posts. You can also suspend email from these lists. To unsubscribe entirely and leave the group, please log into the website and select Unsubscribe from the members home page. You can reach Russ and Peter the list managers at info@webboy.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than WSG Digest There are some problems with the Digest version. Our apologies for this. It is the way that SmarterMail handles it so that HTML email and attachments are not put into the digest as source code. We are STILL talking with the software developers about this. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Just joined the list to receive in digest format I received this including approx 100 file attachments quite a few with just a heading and no content is this the way you usually send out a digest RegardsDavid M WickerDB Resources (UK) Ltd From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday 31 August 05 19:24To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Should I be trying to accommodate A5 printouts, or smallerprintouts than the norm, and if so in what way?Ideally, yes, and by not using fixed widths. Otherwise, no, because it'd be way too much work. :-P
[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
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Hello, I have a nav list problem. This is thecss I'm using:
.links ul, .links li {
list-style: none;}
.links li {border: 1px solid #00;border-top: 0px;}
.links li.top {border-top: 1px solid #00;}
.links li a {color: #00;text-decoration: none;display: block;text-align: center;cursor: default;padding-bottom: 4px;padding-top: 4px;}
.links li a:hover {color: #FF;background-color: #00;text-decoration: none;cursor: default;}
.links li a:first-letter {border-bottom: 1px solid black;padding-bottom: 2px;}
.links li a#active:first-letter {border-bottom: 1px solid white;padding-bottom: 2px;}
.links li a:hover:first-letter {border-bottom: 1px solid white;padding-bottom: 2px;}
.links a#active {color: #FF;background-color: #00;text-decoration: none;}
.links a:active#active {color: #FF;background-color: #00;text-decoration: none;}and the html is:
ul li class="top" id="current"a id="active" title="Accuiel" accesskey="a" href=""Accuiel/a/li lia title="De Nous" accesskey="d" href=""De Nous/a/li lia title="Photos" accesskey="p" href=""Photos/a/li lia title="Contact" accesskey="c" href=""Contact/a/li lia title="Liens" accesskey="l" href=""Liens/a/li/ul
What I'm trying to do is have the accesskey underlined, it works fine in Firefox and Opera(wayhey), but in IE 6 the a:first-letter works fine, but a:hover doesn't at all (it does without a:first-letter though) and in Netscape 7 the a:first-letter doesn't work at all (just netscapes css support?) but a:hover does. Phew.
The CSS is probably a bit bulky, but go easy on me, I'm newish to this.
Any ideas? If at all possible I'd like to avoid CSS hacks.
Thanks,
Josh.
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Accesskeys (Was RE: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org)
Josh Rose wrote: What I'm trying to do is have the accesskey underlined, it works fine in Firefox and Opera (wayhey), but in IE 6 the a:first-letter works fine, but a:hover doesn't at all (it does without a:first-letter though) and in Netscape 7 the a:first-letter doesn't work at all (just netscapes css support?) but a:hover does. Phew. The CSS is probably a bit bulky, but go easy on me, I'm newish to this. Any ideas? If at all possible I'd like to avoid CSS hacks. Thanks, Josh. En Francais eh? Bienvenue! Josh, Accesskeys? May I suggest you review the following? Using Accesskeys - Is it worth it?: http://www.wats.ca/articles/accesskeys/19 More reasons why we don't use accesskeys: http://www.wats.ca/articles/accesskeyconflicts/37 Accesskeys and Reserved Keystroke Combinations: http://www.wats.ca/resources/accesskeysandkeystrokes/38 Link Relationships as an Alternative to Accesskeys: http://www.wats.ca/articles/accesskeyalternatives/52 The Future of Accesskeys: http://www.wats.ca/articles/thefutureofaccesskeys/66 Perhaps after reviewing these, you may consider eliminating them entirely, making your quest a moot point. Cheers! JF -- John Foliot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Accessibility Specialist / Co-founder of WATS.ca Web Accessibility Testing and Services http://www.wats.ca Phone: 1-613-482-7053 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Hello, Can I just point people in the direction of http://www.independent-testers.org/, just in case any of you have spare time and feel charitable (please note that other than being a tester, I'm not affiliated to this site in any way). Regards, Josh. To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre.
[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Hello, Does anyone know how to get rid of whitespace at the bottom of the page when using relative positioning on a page that has more than 1 column? Hope that made sense, Josh. Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail
Re: [WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Hope that made sense, nup. youre definately going to have to show us an example. if you havent got a liveexample to show, make a really simple example by stripping out everything else and just include some html css within your post. help us to help you! :) On 7/21/05, Josh Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Does anyone know how to get rid of whitespace at the bottom of the page when using relative positioning on a page that has more than 1 column? Hope that made sense, Josh. Yahoo! Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail
[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
David Laakso wrote: Major Tom says, neither: img src=image.jpg height=25 width=45 alt=Astronaut title= Major Tom took his protein pill and put his helmet on... / (but then what does he know...?) This is ground control to Major Tomhuh? On Sat, 09 Jul 2005 16:06:04 1000, wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why, it's because your address was bouncing for at least 5 posts. To revert to a standard subscription, please log into the website - http://webstandardsgroup.org/manage/ - and select Edit your login details and mail list subscriptions from the members home page and change the selection toFull WSG list. You can change your subscription at any time and you can now select a different email address for WSG and WSGCMS list posts. You can also suspend email from these lists. To unsubscribe entirely and leave the group, please log into the website and select Unsubscribe from the members home page. You can reach Russ and Peter the list managers at info@webboy.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than WSG Digest There are some problems with the Digest version. Our apologies for this. It is the way that SmarterMail handles it so that HTML email and attachments are not put into the digest as source code. We are STILL talking with the software developers about this. -- ::Bruce:: ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
[QUOTE] From: James Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:45:58 +0100 Subject: drop shadows Hi all, I have a site www.flashforprogrammers.com, each page ‘floats’ on a background with a dropshadow. I’m no HTML fiend, a friend told me how to add the drop shadow. It’s done thus: div style=width:700px;height:1250px;filter:shadow(color:black,direction:135); div style=width:682px;background:white;border:1px solid black;padding:20px; …content /div /div [/QUOTE] My notes on that would be: 1) As mentioned already, this will work *only* in IE browsers. 2) ...So I would suggest a very popular technique, widely used, using a small GIF image and a bit of CSS. It works in nearly every browser nowadays, and is easy to implement. Details you may find here: a) http://www.1976design.com/blog/archive/2003/11/14/49/ b) http://www.alistapart.com/articles/cssdropshadows/ c) http://wubbleyew.com/tests/dropshadows.htm Cheers, Michel Webdesigner Freelancer (sometimes not so free;-) === ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
And there's also an open-source system now available at www.browsershots.org which won't cost you anything. From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 22 June 2005 3:21 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org http://www.browsercam.com/ - that really handy site that allow you to preview screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform combinations.
[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
http://www.browsercam.com/ - that really handy site that allow you to preview screenshots of your webpage on all browser/platform combinations.
[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sounds like something that should be dynamic. Maybe Macromedia will build it intot the next version of Dreamweaver. ;) The loveely people at I Love Jack Daniels havea handy refeerence sheet you may like but it's not quite what you're after. http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/css/css-cheat-sheet/ A CSS validator is another good option but it's more of an after-the-fact solution. Try the W3C's Jigsaw. http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator-uri.html Sorry I couldn't be more help but these should be of some assistance. From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 13 June 2005 2:53 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Is there any guide or cheat sheet out there somewhere which gives the exact properties of each html element which CAN be altered/positioned/styled via CSS? Like I've been putting: margin: 0; padding: 0; on a default table rule set, but something I've just read "indicates" that tables don't have padding - so the padding rule for tables is useless. I've been doing the same for trs, but something else I came acrosssaid that tr's don't have margin or padding properties. I'm trying to streamline my stylesheets and would like to get rid of any superflous rules that don't apply- or have no effect on -specific elements. The easiest way I can think of to do this would be to reference some kind of (easy to understand) document that says - or shows - that you can set the margin of a table, but not the padding, etc. Cole
[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
The URL is getting re-written or re-directed to http://survey.whatcanido.com.au/Survey/Index.contentand then I getthe magicalPage cannot be found error. From: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 14 June 2005 2:55 PMTo: wsg@webstandardsgroup.orgSubject: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Guys n gals, Im having some quirky layout issues with http://survey.whatcanido.com.au/ specifically starting on page two of the survey, Questions2.fuel. The issues are pretty clearly visible. Any assistance with generally improving the pages would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tatham Oddie Technical Director, Fuel Advance www.fueladvance.com
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[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
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I definitely like the new look of your page. No question. I am not a big fan of those dropdowns, though. Why do I have to click on the primary item to get the dropdown? It forces the user to make an additional click that is not really necessary. The good old mouseOver would do the job much better, I think. In particular as there is no choice: if I want to navigate your site I need the navigation items that are currently hidden. One other thing I noticed lately: most standards-based websites suddenly start to look the same. They've got this A-List-Apart look on them: centered, 800px wide, horizontal navigation at the top. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the second you see that design style you know it was done by a fan of web standards. I wonder where this comes from? Sorry, this sounds like I am only complaining about your site. These were just two things that came to my mind. But in general I really like the new Andreas, Thanks for your comments, they are exactly the kind of thoughtful remarks one needs to hear. I'm not a big fan of dropdowns either and for the longest time I had a sidebar with the links but it just didn't feel right for this site. The menu as it is behaves rather erratically with mouseover so I left it as is: clickable. As far as The List Apart look, well I plead guilty as charged ;-) I wasn't looking to emulate that particular site but it's a layout that's fairly easy to achieve with CSS, caters to a lot of monitor sizes and different browsers and it just works. This is after all only my fourth website and I'm still very much feeling my way. But your point's well taken, it might be time to stretch out a little bit next time... Thanks again for your time, Erwin Heiser ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Re: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org (Out of office )
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Title: Message I have Adobe Creative Suite Dreamweaver Homesite Flash -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2004 21:34To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi peoples I'm desperate for screenshots or error-reports frombrowsers other thanExplorer 6, 5.5, 5, 4, OperaandMozilla.. The site: http://www.korsbjerggaard.dk/ny/ Do you haveExplorer 5 for MAC, AOL, Konqueror, Safari, or some other browser(maybe a really oldversion)? Can you help? I hope.. - Morten Ohm Thalund __ This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
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Title: Message Hmm...wonderful non-sequitur... Oh...I like bread by the way. Patrick -Original Message-From: Laurie Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 12 November 2004 12:04To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [WSG] RE: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have Adobe Creative Suite Dreamweaver Homesite Flash -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 November 2004 21:34To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi peoples I'm desperate for screenshots or error-reports frombrowsers other thanExplorer 6, 5.5, 5, 4, OperaandMozilla.. The site: http://www.korsbjerggaard.dk/ny/ Do you haveExplorer 5 for MAC, AOL, Konqueror, Safari, or some other browser(maybe a really oldversion)? Can you help? I hope.. - Morten Ohm Thalund__This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email __
[WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
I still keep getting these digest emails even though I unsubscribed. Please take me off your list. Thank you. Jim Trick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14, October, 2004 13:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why, it's because your address was bouncing for at least 5 posts. To revert to a standard subscription, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Set mode standard wsg (no quotes) in the body of the message. To unsubscribe, please log into the website and select Unsubscribe from the members home page. You can reach Russ and Peter the list managers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than WSG Digest There are some problems with the Digest version. Our apologies for this. It is the way that SmarterMail handles it so that HTML email and attachments are not put into the digest as source code. We are talking with the software developers about this. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] RE: digest for wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Hi, just do this. Send an email from your subscribed account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with set mode digest wsg (no quotes) as the BODY (not subject) and it will be so. And you will just receive one email every few days or so containing every mail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still keep getting these digest emails even though I unsubscribed. Please take me off your list. Thank you. Jim Trick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14, October, 2004 13:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why, it's because your address was bouncing for at least 5 posts. To revert to a standard subscription, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Set mode standard wsg (no quotes) in the body of the message. To unsubscribe, please log into the website and select Unsubscribe from the members home page. You can reach Russ and Peter the list managers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than WSG Digest There are some problems with the Digest version. Our apologies for this. It is the way that SmarterMail handles it so that HTML email and attachments are not put into the digest as source code. We are talking with the software developers about this. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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On Jul 14, 2004, at 1:10 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WEB STANDARDS GROUP MAIL LIST DIGEST If you have suddenly been thrown into digest mode and don't know why, it's because your address was bouncing for at least 5 posts. To revert to a standard subscription, please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Set mode standard wsg (no quotes) in the body of the message. To unsubscribe, please log into the website and select Unsubscribe from the members home page. You can reach Russ and Peter the list managers at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than WSG Digest There are some problems with the Digest version. Our apologies for this. It is the way that SmarterMail handles it so that HTML email and attachments are not put into the digest as source code. We are talking with the software developers about this. From: Nick Gleitzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 15:06:49 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] Oh, the humanity! On Tuesday, Jul 13, 2004, at 11:50 Australia/Sydney, Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen wrote: Just in case anybody asks you, but how do you *know* the Allmusic Guide is lame? and you don't have one of Scott Yanow's reviews handy, now you have the definitive answer. Just click! http://www.allmusic.com/. Besides being insanely slow and buggy, the new AMG site has this notice in bright yellow at the top of every page: Notice: You are accessing allmusic.com with a browser that is not currently supported. The appearance and functionality of the site could be impacted. allmusic.com is optimized for Internet Explorer 5.5 and above for Windows. Uhh.. yeah. Had to see for myself, and didn't even get as far as the notice (was maybe going to send them a nice constructive email); all I got was Error 2 Timeout. Outstanding. Maybe they've already pulled the site? Nick ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ From: Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 16:22:10 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] Oh, the humanity! Nah i see it... :S Ahhh terrible... Off with teh person in charges head! Nick Gleitzman wrote: On Tuesday, Jul 13, 2004, at 11:50 Australia/Sydney, Rev. Bob 'Bob' Crispen wrote: Just in case anybody asks you, but how do you *know* the Allmusic Guide is lame? and you don't have one of Scott Yanow's reviews handy, now you have the definitive answer. Just click! http://www.allmusic.com/. Besides being insanely slow and buggy, the new AMG site has this notice in bright yellow at the top of every page: Notice: You are accessing allmusic.com with a browser that is not currently supported. The appearance and functionality of the site could be impacted. allmusic.com is optimized for Internet Explorer 5.5 and above for Windows. Uhh.. yeah. Had to see for myself, and didn't even get as far as the notice (was maybe going to send them a nice constructive email); all I got was Error 2 Timeout. Outstanding. Maybe they've already pulled the site? Nick ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * From: Rick Faaberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:48:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [WSG] Oh, the humanity! On 7/12/04 11:22 PM Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: http://www.allmusic.com Nah i see it... :S Ahhh terrible... Off with teh person in charges head! This thread will be closed real soon I'd bet, but that site basically p*ss*d me off. Makes me redouble my standards-thinking efforts. What an idiotic website that is. Rick Faaberg From: Lea de Groot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 17:26:10 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] Oh, the humanity! On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 23:48:48 -0700, Rick Faaberg wrote: This thread will be closed real soon I'd bet, snip Makes me redouble my standards-thinking efforts. If we can inject some content into the thread, it can stay open, I expect. What specific problems do you see their lack of standards causing? What simple steps could they have taken to fix it? What complex steps? What would it have cost? What reasons can you imagine they had for their current implementation? Much more interesting than just giving an... emotional response. g warmly, Lea ~ who feel very school marm-ish ;) -- Lea de Groot Elysian Systems - I Understand the Internet http://elysiansystems.com/ Web Design, Usability, Information Architecture, Search Engine Optimisation Brisbane, Australia From: Andrey V. Stefanenko
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Brian Grimmer posted -- gt;Personally, though I prefer the idea of a forum, the biggest issue I have gt;with an e-mail list is the twits that do not know how to set up an gt;auto-responder properly. I also prefer the idea of a forum instead of such a high volume list. I don't have time to check this list daily, and because of this often find that I've received 170+ emails from this list in a matter of a couple of days. Quite often the majority of that is people asking for help, which is fine, in fact it's great that ppl want to extend their knowledge, but it creates a massive amount of posts and replies that the majority *probably* aren't interested in. Moving the list to a forum would allow members who are only interested in the more theoretical discussions and discussions about furthering the cause of web standards to view only that part of the forum and not have to wade through pages of Does this work? posts. Personally, I joined this list in the hope of reading and participating in more theoretical discussion. It's not that I don't want to help people, i do, but I already do enough of that at codingforums.com... Peter, Russ, please don't take this as another whinge, it is merely a little bit of observation thrown in with a hell of a lot of opinion. Andrew Krespanis. _ What's your house worth? Click here to find out: http://www.ninemsn.realestate.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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Andrew Krespanis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Personally, I joined this list in the hope of reading and participating in more theoretical discussion. It's not that I don't want to help people, i do, but I already do enough of that at codingforums.com... While I can perfectly understand this, there are also those unlucky souls such as me who were forced (so to speak) to subscribe to WSG because Westciv's CSS-Foundations list is closing down. Westciv was strongly encouraging us to move over to WSG. Personally, I have no particular interest in discussing theoretical issues regarding web standards; if someone can steer me to a list better suited to dealing with the more practical issues of using CSS, I would be grateful. - Michael Michael J. Hußmann E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW (personal): http://michael-hussmann.de WWW (professional): http://digicam-experts.de * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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On 23/05/2004, at 10:23 PM, Michael J. Hußmann wrote: Personally, I have no particular interest in discussing theoretical issues regarding web standards; if someone can steer me to a list better suited to dealing with the more practical issues of using CSS, I would be grateful. see http://www.CSS-Discuss.org --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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Does 'CSS-Discuss' consider validation a theoretical issue? Justin French wrote: On 23/05/2004, at 10:23 PM, Michael J. Hußmann wrote: Personally, I have no particular interest in discussing theoretical issues regarding web standards; if someone can steer me to a list better suited to dealing with the more practical issues of using CSS, I would be grateful. see http://www.CSS-Discuss.org --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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On 23/05/2004, at 11:37 PM, noa wrote: Does 'CSS-Discuss' consider validation a theoretical issue? While I dislike all this meta discussion - in my opinion, if you don't like the format of the list, there are plenty of other resources available in alternative formats, so you'd be better investigating the other options than clogging the list with off-topic meta discussion - I have to chime in here. css-discuss is a great list, but it is insanely high volume and if you think this list is strict, wait til you see the responses to off-topic posts there. Thanks Russ and Peter, this is a great resource, and I'm going to shut up now. -- Kay Smoljak http://developer.perthweb.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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I second j.neen's suggestion for a tread-based forum. Also, I prefer an RSS feed of the thread as my way to review. --David
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I'm opposed to forking the list. I second j.neen's suggestion for a tread-based forum. This list is threaded.. http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/ That is how my mail reader displays it it too. Maybe you could try mail software which threads. Also, I prefer an RSS feed of the thread as my way to review. The RSS format is not threaded its flat? chris * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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Personally, though I prefer the idea of a forum, the biggest issue I have with an e-mail list is the twits that do not know how to set up an auto-responder properly. If ANYTHING is a waste of bandwidth, that is. I am sure the list could care a less if your off for a few days tinkering for whatever reason in your personal closet. It is this same issue that is seriously making me reconsider the groups value overall. Brian Grimmer theGrafixGuy http://www.thegrafixguy.com 503-887-4943 925-226-4085 (fax) This reply to your initial e-mail is sent in accordance with the US CAN-SPAM Law in effect 01/01/2004. Removal requests can be sent to this address and will be honored and respected. -Original Message- From: Chris Bentley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 6:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: digest for [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm opposed to forking the list. I second j.neen's suggestion for a tread-based forum. This list is threaded.. http://www.mail-archive.com/wsg%40webstandardsgroup.org/ That is how my mail reader displays it it too. Maybe you could try mail software which threads. Also, I prefer an RSS feed of the thread as my way to review. The RSS format is not threaded its flat? chris * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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Hi Guys, I've noticed that this list has grown and grown and has gotten too big to be read on a daily basis. I was wondering if there's any consideration of maybe splitting the listing into ahandful of different topics and then allowing members to subscribe to one or more specific topics. So if my interest right now is CSS I could subscribe to that topic. Related, I've heard that the CSS-foundations list will be joining this one. These daily emails can only get bigger. Just some thoughts, Thanks for all the great comments help and community, Chris Rizzo
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I agree. I actually tried to unsubscribe from the list so I could just view the list archive at my leisure. But if you unsubscribe the page reads: _ |_| Yes. Remove me from the mailing list and delete my membership. I did not want my membership revoked, I just can't weed through 100+ emails every day. Also, you can't see the list archive unless you are on the list. Maybe have 3 or 4 lists with a focus such as XHTML, CSS, general, etc... Or a way to be a member without being on the list would be great as well. Terry -Original Message- Hi Guys, I've noticed that this list has grown and grown and has gotten too big to be read on a daily basis. I was wondering if there's any consideration of maybe splitting the listing into a handful of different topics and then allowing members to subscribe to one or more specific topics. So if my interest right now is CSS I could subscribe to that topic. Related, I've heard that the CSS-foundations list will be joining this one. These daily emails can only get bigger. Just some thoughts, Thanks for all the great comments help and community, Chris Rizzo * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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On 21/05/2004, at 12:36 PM, jneen wrote: my five cents worth I would prefer to see a more typical thread based web forum where I just sign in and can read at my leisure. Any posts made by me should list my login name and I think that only member's should be able to post. I also find the number of emails I am getting harder to digest and would prefer a thread based approach so that I can see all replies on a given topic in one hit. Get a better email client -- threading of emails based on the subject and other headers has been possible in email programs as far back as my very first email in about '96 or '97 I guess. Seriously, threading in email is pretty standard stuff. 1. Set up a new folder / mail box for all the WSG email. 2. Set-up a filter/rule to make sure all email with the subject [WSG] get pushed into your new folder 3. When viewing the WSG folder, make sure you're viewing the emails in a threaded view. If your email program doesn't support threading, get one that does! Judging by your headers, you're using Thunderbird, so all should okay there. Want to be even more productive? 4. Flag the threads you're interested in so it's easy for you to scan for topics of interest. 5. Set up your mail client to only show threads with new messages, so that the WSG folder is a lot less cluttered. Now you have a system which is FAR more productive than a clunky forum could ever be. You can download all messages for viewing offline (on the train in the morning?), you can do a full text search via your mail client (again, offline), you can have instant and reliable private messages, and you can keep track of all your post all via a very fast email client, rather than a slow web based forum. If you want a forum, then why did you join a mailing list? There are plenty of such forums already in existence on the web -- we certainly don't need another one here. Email is fast, clean, free from bloat, and allows me to quickly keep on eye on the mailing list whilst working -- a lot harder to do with a web-based forum. --- Justin French http://indent.com.au * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
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Link on csscreatorAs a perpetual student, my advice is to drop out only if you can do so without leaving it on your records. Potential employers do not like unfinished education even if your reasons are valid. They will find out whether or not you include it on your resumé. AuntySpam http://www.geocities.com/brewnetty/home.html http://coastline.cccd.edu/spsd_abi_home.asp http://brewnetty.0catch.com http://www.getrealresults.com/tenmyths.html Gabriel Vasquez wrote: Hi Everyone, I apologize if this is off topic but this is one of the few places that I would be able to talk to web designers and get their opinions on this. I've been attending school to get an Associates degree in Digital Media. The program is 18 months and ranges from html to 3d graphics. I'm already more than halfway through my courses, but I find that I hit a road block; I'm not really learning anything. We are just now getting into *basic* css, and javascript in dreamweaver (which I already know how to do, even though I prefer to hand-code). The program is now focusing on 3D animation but that's really not what I'm into at all. I just want to do web design: xhtml, css, ECMAScript/DOM, etc. -- no more, no less. I don't feel I should spend the money for something I'm not getting anything out of. My question to you is this: Do you think it would be wise for me to finish the program and get the degree even though I'm not learning what I want to be learning, or should I just call it off and focus on web design? TIA in advanced for your feedback! Gabriel * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
