[WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-11 Thread Ben Boyle
Why doesn't anyone push the barrow saying Font sizes should be LARGE by default, and designers should MAKE THE FONT SMALLER if/when they don't like it. Why do we aim to please designers and expect users to make the adjustments? I don't get it. But then, I skipped all the subjects on typography at

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-11 Thread Bradley Wright
While we're on the topic of text sizes, what does everyone here think of DOM driven style-switchers? (ala http://www.mezzoblue.com/ and http://www.zeldman.com/)? I'm thinking that it's possible people will miss these resizing buttons. What's the general opinion on these? Good idea? Maybe

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-10 Thread Gino Ferraro
Hi Miles, Owen Briggs of 'The Noodle Incident' has a very good article on CSS Typography. He has developed a sample style sheet that covers all the base elements using %'s and ems. check it out at: http://www.thenoodleincident.com/tutorials/typography/index.html Cheers Gino Miles Tillinger

[WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread Cameron Adams
That article gives the worst advice I've seen. Basically, they're saying that if someone wants to resize the text on your web page, you shouldn't allow them to because it will break your site, making it illegible. If a user wants to resize the text on your site, it is because it is illegible to

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread Miles Tillinger
. Just my $0.02... Miles. -Original Message- From: Cameron Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? That article gives the worst advice I've seen. Basically, they're saying that if someone wants

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread Miles Tillinger
Stanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? I get your point Miles - but why should your grandfather NOT be able to walk into an internet cafe and use the 15 monitor at 1024x768 with IE 5 on it? Accessibility

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread russ weakley
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RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread Taco Fleur
PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 2:19 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? Sorry for the length of this... 1. All government sites are supposed to follow WAI guideline - which recommend the use of relative font sizes. 2. The aim is to give users the option

RE: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread Peter Firminger
Hi Taco, I guess in the end it all becomes a case of - is the client willing to pay for your extra time required to apply all these hacks. First thing to note is that it is soo much quicker to develop a site this way once you get the basics right. Once you have the basics, you start the

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread russ weakley
on me ;-) I'll give it a go though at some stage. -Original Message- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 10 December 2003 2:19 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? Sorry for the length of this... 1. All government sites

Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ???

2003-12-09 Thread russ weakley
- From: russ weakley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 3:41 PM To: Web Standards Group Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: px em pt ??? Taco, If you code well, relative font sizes do not require a great deal to apply across a site. You are simply making decisions on font