Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-30 Thread Michael MD




whisperI actually quite like it./whisper


I thought it was pretty cool too. A bit of experimentation shows that 
there's actually been a fair bit of work put into font-previewing 
interface. Definitely nowhere near the worst site I've seen recently.




I didn't think it was so bad - *except* that there is a lack of text for 
browsers without flash or frames

(and yes - search engines won't see much there either)
... but that is something lacking on a lot of flash-based sites out there so 
it's hardly the worst...

... visually it even looks kind of cool...





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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Rob Mason
My eyes, my beautiful eyes...it burns.


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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Chris Wilson
I have to agree. Not everything has to be so damn usable that it has no
visual flair, something that, sadly, tends to be the norm on this list. This
is neat if only because it's quite unique.


On 10/29/07, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/29/07, Rob Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My eyes, my beautiful eyes...it burns.

 whisperI actually quite like it./whisper

 It's nice to see someone trying something slightly away from the norm.
 OK, so they don't quite pull it off -- the mad scrolling stuff could
 do with being toned down a little (perhaps a bit of motion blurring?)
 and some of the UI design is just plain silly, but generally, not a
 bad effort. I've certainly seen a lot worse.

 Besides, what's not to like about a site that employs lines like
 Value-added red noses maximize a plan to vigorously deliver
 multilevel hairdryers. in place of lipsum? ;)


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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Olly Hodgson
On 10/29/07, Rob Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My eyes, my beautiful eyes...it burns.

whisperI actually quite like it./whisper

It's nice to see someone trying something slightly away from the norm.
OK, so they don't quite pull it off -- the mad scrolling stuff could
do with being toned down a little (perhaps a bit of motion blurring?)
and some of the UI design is just plain silly, but generally, not a
bad effort. I've certainly seen a lot worse.

Besides, what's not to like about a site that employs lines like
Value-added red noses maximize a plan to vigorously deliver
multilevel hairdryers. in place of lipsum? ;)


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RE: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Andrew Boyd
Hi Paul,

There are bits about it I liked too - I would have done it differently, but I 
think that it achieves what they set out to do - talk up their fonts to those 
that want to buy them.

I think that the thread just goes to prove that:
- communication is about effective information transfer rather than our idea of 
what communication should be (rather like art in that respect), and accordingly
- we tread a fine line when dictating best practices to others. Sometimes 
they are appropriate, and at other times, they can be so prescriptive as to be 
useless.

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The blinking was really annoying (and it was everywhere!), as was the very 
small text.

What I liked was the live rendering of the fonts and the ability to select a 
font and actually be able to type with it, see it at different font sizes etc - 
very handy (I've seen this on another font site too, but I can't recall the url)

The orange scroll bar was a bit of a downer, especially seeing as it was right 
next to the old handy browser scrollbar

In terms of bad flash, weird UI and 'mystery meat navigation', take a look at 
this...
http://matterhorn.co.nz/

I have a feeling this thread is 'weaving' off-topic :)


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RE: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Paul Bennett
The blinking was really annoying (and it was everywhere!), as was the very 
small text.

What I liked was the live rendering of the fonts and the ability to select a 
font and actually be able to type with it, see it at different font sizes etc - 
very handy (I've seen this on another font site too, but I can't recall the url)
 
The orange scroll bar was a bit of a downer, especially seeing as it was right 
next to the old handy browser scrollbar

In terms of bad flash, weird UI and 'mystery meat navigation', take a look at 
this...
http://matterhorn.co.nz/

I have a feeling this thread is 'weaving' off-topic :)


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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/29/07, Andrew Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Paul,

 There are bits about it I liked too - I would have done it differently, but I 
 think that it achieves what they set out to do - talk up their fonts to those 
 that want to buy them.

That may be true, but I can't actually suffer the UI enough to look
through their catalog. Maybe my tolerance for pain is lower than
yours. It's just too hard to go through them all.

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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread John Faulds

whisperI actually quite like it./whisper


I thought it was pretty cool too. A bit of experimentation shows that  
there's actually been a fair bit of work put into font-previewing  
interface. Definitely nowhere near the worst site I've seen recently.



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RE: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Travis D. Falls
I missed the URL for this. can someone send it out again?  I want to see
what has everyone in a tizzy.  J

 

travis

 

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I have to agree. Not everything has to be so damn usable that it has no
visual flair, something that, sadly, tends to be the norm on this list. This
is neat if only because it's quite unique.



On 10/29/07, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/29/07, Rob Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My eyes, my beautiful eyes...it burns.

whisperI actually quite like it./whisper 

It's nice to see someone trying something slightly away from the norm.
OK, so they don't quite pull it off -- the mad scrolling stuff could
do with being toned down a little (perhaps a bit of motion blurring?) 
and some of the UI design is just plain silly, but generally, not a
bad effort. I've certainly seen a lot worse.

Besides, what's not to like about a site that employs lines like
Value-added red noses maximize a plan to vigorously deliver 
multilevel hairdryers. in place of lipsum? ;)


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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread John Faulds

http://www.ourtype.be/

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:57:02 +1000, Travis D. Falls  
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I missed the URL for this. can someone send it out again?  I want to see
what has everyone in a tizzy.  J


travis


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Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:26 PM
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I have to agree. Not everything has to be so damn usable that it has no
visual flair, something that, sadly, tends to be the norm on this list.  
This

is neat if only because it's quite unique.



On 10/29/07, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/29/07, Rob Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My eyes, my beautiful eyes...it burns.


whisperI actually quite like it./whisper

It's nice to see someone trying something slightly away from the norm.
OK, so they don't quite pull it off -- the mad scrolling stuff could
do with being toned down a little (perhaps a bit of motion blurring?)
and some of the UI design is just plain silly, but generally, not a
bad effort. I've certainly seen a lot worse.

Besides, what's not to like about a site that employs lines like
Value-added red noses maximize a plan to vigorously deliver
multilevel hairdryers. in place of lipsum? ;)


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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread David Laakso

Travis D. Falls wrote:


I missed the URL for this… can someone send it out again? I want to 
see what has everyone in a tizzy. J


travis



Sure.
http://www.ourtype.be/


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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Hayden's Harness Attachment
As a JAWS user, I could not view the web site. JAWS kept 
blocking the Flash.


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http://www.ourtype.be/

On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:57:02 +1000, Travis D. Falls 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I missed the URL for this. can someone send it out again? 
I want to see

what has everyone in a tizzy.  J


travis


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Behalf Of Chris Wilson
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately



I have to agree. Not everything has to be so damn usable 
that it has no
visual flair, something that, sadly, tends to be the norm 
on this list.  This

is neat if only because it's quite unique.



On 10/29/07, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/29/07, Rob Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

My eyes, my beautiful eyes...it burns.


whisperI actually quite like it./whisper

It's nice to see someone trying something slightly away 
from the norm.
OK, so they don't quite pull it off -- the mad scrolling 
stuff could
do with being toned down a little (perhaps a bit of 
motion blurring?)
and some of the UI design is just plain silly, but 
generally, not a

bad effort. I've certainly seen a lot worse.

Besides, what's not to like about a site that employs 
lines like
Value-added red noses maximize a plan to vigorously 
deliver

multilevel hairdryers. in place of lipsum? ;)


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http://thinkdrastic.net/


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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-29 Thread Patrick H. Lauke

Hayden's Harness Attachment wrote:
As a JAWS user, I could not view the web site. JAWS kept blocking the 


I nearly fell into a common trap and said as a JAWS user, why would you 
visit a site that showcases typefaces, but then caught myself just in 
time. Of course, you may be visiting it to purchase a typeface (either 
for your own use, or purchasing it for a company/colleague).


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[WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-28 Thread Devi Web Development
On 10/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just found what I consider to be an extremely annoying, very blinky
 website someone spent way too much time writing flash for.

 http://www.ourtype.be/

Sorry, I didn't intend to send that to wsg, although I guess it's related...

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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-28 Thread Christian Montoya
On 10/28/07, Devi Web Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just found what I consider to be an extremely annoying, very blinky
  website someone spent way too much time writing flash for.
 
  http://www.ourtype.be/

 Sorry, I didn't intend to send that to wsg, although I guess it's related...

It kind of is... this could have been done with Flash or Javascript,
but the end result would have been the same... bad! Horrible IA here,
I can't really skim or even get an idea about the fonts and I can't
imagine people would really spend time on that site.

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Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-28 Thread Tom Roper

It hurt my eyes!! What an erratic use of flash!

Sent from my iPod Touch


On 29 Oct 2007, at 00:30, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 10/28/07, Devi Web Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 10/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just found what I consider to be an extremely annoying, very  
blinky

website someone spent way too much time writing flash for.

http://www.ourtype.be/


Sorry, I didn't intend to send that to wsg, although I guess it's  
related...


It kind of is... this could have been done with Flash or Javascript,
but the end result would have been the same... bad! Horrible IA here,
I can't really skim or even get an idea about the fonts and I can't
imagine people would really spend time on that site.

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RE: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately

2007-10-28 Thread Ted Drake
Welcome to the world of post-iPhone web design.
I've already seen a Yahoo maps hack that adds the same sliding behavior.
Ted


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It hurt my eyes!! What an erratic use of flash!

Sent from my iPod Touch


On 29 Oct 2007, at 00:30, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 10/28/07, Devi Web Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 10/28/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just found what I consider to be an extremely annoying, very  
 blinky
 website someone spent way too much time writing flash for.

 http://www.ourtype.be/

 Sorry, I didn't intend to send that to wsg, although I guess it's  
 related...

 It kind of is... this could have been done with Flash or Javascript,
 but the end result would have been the same... bad! Horrible IA here,
 I can't really skim or even get an idea about the fonts and I can't
 imagine people would really spend time on that site.

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