[WSG] Restricted HTML Editor?
I recently spent heaps of time building a site using css and standards-compliant HTML pages. Now I need to hand back content editing to a pool of unwashed users. They like changing fonts, adding bright colours, bold, underline, centering etc whenever they get the chance. Ideally I'd like to be able to give them an HTML form to edit from, which contains a cut-down HTML WISIWIG editor that allows them to add only: - bold block of text (which I can access render as h2/h2 ), - plain text (which I can access render as p/p, - links There were posts on this mailing list a week or 2 back re HTML WISIWIG editors, but most give away too much control to the user and produce non-css-based HTML. Its a big site (130,000+ pages) and I can't expect to maintain it all myself. What do others in this situation do? Simon Chalmers Analyst/Programmer Level 8, ITS Parliament House Macquarie Street SYDNEY NSW 2000 Ph: 02 9230 2943 Fax: 02 9230 2358 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au NOTICE - This e-mail is solely for the named addressee and may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the contents if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender by e-mail immediately and then destroy any copy of this message. Except where otherwise specifically stated, views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender. The New South Wales Parliament does not guarantee that this communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Restricted HTML Editor?
Well, something like HTMLArea allows you to customise the toolbar, so that you can remove functionality that you don't want the unwashed to have. The problem is that I recall it doesn't produce 100% standards-compliant code AS ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Restricted HTML Editor?
On 27/08/2004, at 11:32 AM, Simon Chalmers wrote: There were posts on this mailing list a week or 2 back re HTML WISIWIG editors, but most give away too much control to the user and produce non-css-based HTML. Most of them are customisable to cut-down the features to only what you want to allow. There's also Textile as an option http://textism.com/tools/textile/. --- Justin French http://indent.com.au ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Restricted HTML Editor?
Someone posted a list of WYSIWYG editors from their bookmarks folder a few days back (Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:34:25 -0700 (PDT), according to my email client) - our development team has been looking at implementing one for a while now, so this was of some interest. Out of the 8 listed, the one which appealed to us most (and was free!) was this one: http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm . Of course, Xstandard is supposed to be great, but (except for the lite version) costs money -- it's cheaper to go with a lesser solution and customise it into an application we're happy with, rather than pay for a non-custom solution which makes us more dependent on external providers. With 130,000+ pages, developing a custom app surely isn't out of the question? Or licensing an application such as Xstandard? The original list of editors has been reproduced below for convenience... On Tuesday, 24 Aug at 07:34, Krassy wrote: Here's a list of WYSIWYG editors out of my bookmarks folder. XHTML WYSIWYG Editors: (1) Xstandard http://www.telerik.com/Default.aspx?PageId=1586 (2) r.a.d. Editor - The granddaddy of them all. Here's a list of only a few of the features: * Cross-browser support - IE, Netscape, Mozilla. * XHTML compliant. * Find and Replace in Design- and HTML-mode. * Spell checking with the MS Word dictionaries plus Multilingual spell checker(19 languages). * Easy localization through XML. * Full table editing, Word-like table builder. * Document uploader (PDF, DOC, CHM, etc.) * Enhanced image dialog, thumbnail generator ...etc. The list never ends. http://www.telerik.com/Default.aspx?PageId=1586 WYSIWYG editors I've used or toyed around with: (1) ActiveEdit * Compatible with IE4+, Netscape 6.2+, and Mozilla 1.0+ and works with Mac OS X Safari Browser. * Comes with built-in spell checker. http://www.cfdev.com/activedit/ (2) Cross-browser Rich Text Editor * Compatible with IE5+/Mozilla 1.3+/Mozilla Firebird/Firefox 0.6.1. * Comes with ASP/PHP/HTML demos. * Supports multiple WYSIWYG editor instances on one page http://www.kevinroth.com/rte/demo.htm (3) FCK Editor * Compatible with IE 5+, Mozilla and Netscape http://www.fckeditor.net/ (4) Mishoo HTMLArea * Compatible with IE 5.5+ and Mozilla 1.3 http://dynarch.com/mishoo/htmlarea.epl (5) InteractiveTools HTMLArea * Compatible with IE 5.5+ (Windows)/Mozilla 1.3 (all OS) http://www.interactivetools.com/products/htmlarea/ (6) KUPU * Compatible with Netscape, Mozilla and IE http://kupu.oscom.org/ WYSIWYG editors listing: (1) http://www.bris.ac.uk/is/projects/cms/ttw/ttw.html (2) http://dmoz.org/Computers/Software/Internet/Authoring/HTML/WYSIWYG_Editors/ WYSIWYG editors research notes: (1) http://www.darrelaustin.com/stuff/htmleditors.html (2) My notes. See above :) Good luck! - Krassy = Krassy Lyakov web.developer web: http://www.krassy.com/ blog: http://www.krassycandoit.com/blah/ Hope that helps... On Fri, 2004-08-27 at 11:32, Simon Chalmers wrote: I recently spent heaps of time building a site using css and standards-compliant HTML pages. Now I need to hand back content editing to a pool of unwashed users. They like changing fonts, adding bright colours, bold, underline, centering etc whenever they get the chance. Ideally I'd like to be able to give them an HTML form to edit from, which contains a cut-down HTML WISIWIG editor that allows them to add only: - bold block of text (which I can access render as h2/h2 ), - plain text (which I can access render as p/p, - links There were posts on this mailing list a week or 2 back re HTML WISIWIG editors, but most give away too much control to the user and produce non-css-based HTML. Its a big site (130,000+ pages) and I can't expect to maintain it all myself. What do others in this situation do? Simon Chalmers Analyst/Programmer Level 8, ITS Parliament House Macquarie Street SYDNEY NSW 2000 Ph: 02 9230 2943 Fax: 02 9230 2358 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au NOTICE - This e-mail is solely for the named addressee and may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the contents if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender by e-mail immediately and then destroy any copy of this message. Except where otherwise specifically stated, views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender. The New South Wales Parliament does not guarantee that this communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004
Re: [WSG] Restricted HTML Editor?
Hi Simon, I am on the XStandard dev team. I am not going to do a sales pitch on this list but I will say that XStandard was designed for the requirements you described. There are no font-selectors or color-pickers to hide because these tools create non-standards compliant markup, hence these tools are not part of the XStandard. Check out this article to see what XStandard does to make markup accessible and standards-compliant: http://xstandard.com/page.asp?p=58E6C3F7-E5DF-414F-8AA5-4C8BD2BEFE2A Also, you might want to validate the Web sites of WYSIWYG editor vendors to see if their sites validate: http://validator.w3.org Regards, -Vlad XStandard Development Team http://xstandard.com - Original Message - From: Simon Chalmers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 9:32 PM Subject: [WSG] Restricted HTML Editor? I recently spent heaps of time building a site using css and standards-compliant HTML pages. Now I need to hand back content editing to a pool of unwashed users. They like changing fonts, adding bright colours, bold, underline, centering etc whenever they get the chance. Ideally I'd like to be able to give them an HTML form to edit from, which contains a cut-down HTML WISIWIG editor that allows them to add only: - bold block of text (which I can access render as h2/h2 ), - plain text (which I can access render as p/p, - links There were posts on this mailing list a week or 2 back re HTML WISIWIG editors, but most give away too much control to the user and produce non-css-based HTML. Its a big site (130,000+ pages) and I can't expect to maintain it all myself. What do others in this situation do? Simon Chalmers Analyst/Programmer Level 8, ITS Parliament House Macquarie Street SYDNEY NSW 2000 Ph: 02 9230 2943 Fax: 02 9230 2358 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au NOTICE - This e-mail is solely for the named addressee and may be confidential. You should only read, disclose, transmit, copy, distribute, act in reliance on or commercialise the contents if you are authorised to do so. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender by e-mail immediately and then destroy any copy of this message. Except where otherwise specifically stated, views expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender. The New South Wales Parliament does not guarantee that this communication is free of errors, virus, interception or interference. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
