Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.ItsAllaboutYou-studio.com
Henrik, Thank you for your feed back. I am working on those now. =) The little globe is used to indicate links to external sites. Perhaps another icon would indicate this better? What would you suggest for the link colors. I prefer colors that make the links stand our and not blend into the rest of the site... The colors that you see current are a part of the default style sheet that I use and year should probably be changed. Thank you, Jim On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:22, Henrik Madsen hen...@igenerator.com.auwrote: Hi Jim, A couple of cents from downunder (in FF3, Camino, Safari / Mac). 1) The main horizontal menu bar breaks thru the blue border on the right 2) Maybe the drop menu would look better with a matching background image on the main category, rather than a solid blue block 3) I'd have contact us link / details prominent 4) Suggest font size is decreased and leading increased 5) Increase padding around footer content 6) Link text colour is a bit 'electric' blue (and the green, on hover, doesn't seem to associate with any other colour on the site) 7) What's that little globe about? 8) Purely personal view: everything looks a bit 'tabloid' busy and cluttered, which to me is kind of juxtaposed with the yoga vibe. 1) above should help to open up the layout but perhaps less use of bold (potentially even a font change to something less cold) will deliver a purer, classier, more whitespace, overall feel? Like I said, my 2c. Henrik *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.ItsAllaboutYou-studio.com
External link icon: I'd lose the globe, also because it's jaggy. You may find this useful: http://programmabilities.com/xml/?id=30 Link colour: The site is very blue. Maybe choose one or two complementary or contrasting colours, for decoration, and use a derivative for your link colours: http://www.colorsontheweb.com/colorwizard.asp Henrik Madsen Generator hen...@igenerator.com.au www.igenerator.com.au On 13/01/2009, at 11:40 PM, James O'Neill wrote: Henrik, Thank you for your feed back. I am working on those now. =) The little globe is used to indicate links to external sites. Perhaps another icon would indicate this better? What would you suggest for the link colors. I prefer colors that make the links stand our and not blend into the rest of the site... The colors that you see current are a part of the default style sheet that I use and year should probably be changed. Thank you, Jim On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 01:22, Henrik Madsen hen...@igenerator.com.au wrote: Hi Jim, A couple of cents from downunder (in FF3, Camino, Safari / Mac). 1) The main horizontal menu bar breaks thru the blue border on the right 2) Maybe the drop menu would look better with a matching background image on the main category, rather than a solid blue block 3) I'd have contact us link / details prominent 4) Suggest font size is decreased and leading increased 5) Increase padding around footer content 6) Link text colour is a bit 'electric' blue (and the green, on hover, doesn't seem to associate with any other colour on the site) 7) What's that little globe about? 8) Purely personal view: everything looks a bit 'tabloid' busy and cluttered, which to me is kind of juxtaposed with the yoga vibe. 1) above should help to open up the layout but perhaps less use of bold (potentially even a font change to something less cold) will deliver a purer, classier, more whitespace, overall feel? Like I said, my 2c. Henrik *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.ItsAllaboutYou-studio.com
Hi Jim, A couple of cents from downunder (in FF3, Camino, Safari / Mac). 1) The main horizontal menu bar breaks thru the blue border on the right 2) Maybe the drop menu would look better with a matching background image on the main category, rather than a solid blue block 3) I'd have contact us link / details prominent 4) Suggest font size is decreased and leading increased 5) Increase padding around footer content 6) Link text colour is a bit 'electric' blue (and the green, on hover, doesn't seem to associate with any other colour on the site) 7) What's that little globe about? 8) Purely personal view: everything looks a bit 'tabloid' busy and cluttered, which to me is kind of juxtaposed with the yoga vibe. 1) above should help to open up the layout but perhaps less use of bold (potentially even a font change to something less cold) will deliver a purer, classier, more whitespace, overall feel? Like I said, my 2c. Henrik Generator www.igenerator.com.au On 10/01/2009, at 2:13 AM, James O'Neill wrote: Greetings everyone, I just published this site: www.ItsAllAboutYou-Studio.com for my our Yoga Studio to-be and I am curious for a critique. Someone else came up with the design and I hand-coded this in Dreamweaver. Tonight I will be applying Dean Edward's IE7/8, so, hopefully I can get rid of some of those CSS hacks. =) It is still a little bit rough it will work for now... I am also having someone put this up on Wordpress or Drupal. Let me know what you think... This is the first critique I have asked for... I would love to hear any questions, comments, suggestions, or improvements. *hides in a corner* Thanks all, Jim __ All for one and one for all. www.ArionsHome.com (Persona BLog) www.FreeXenon.com (Web Site Consulting) www.ItsAllAboutYou-Studio.com (Our Yoga Studio) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Site Review: www.ItsAllaboutYou-studio.com
Greetings everyone, I just published this site: www.ItsAllAboutYou-Studio.com for my our Yoga Studio to-be and I am curious for a critique. Someone else came up with the design and I hand-coded this in Dreamweaver. Tonight I will be applying Dean Edward's IE7/8, so, hopefully I can get rid of some of those CSS hacks. =) It is still a little bit rough it will work for now... I am also having someone put this up on Wordpress or Drupal. Let me know what you think... This is the first critique I have asked for... I would love to hear any questions, comments, suggestions, or improvements. *hides in a corner* Thanks all, Jim __ All for one and one for all. www.ArionsHome.com (Persona BLog) www.FreeXenon.com (Web Site Consulting) www.ItsAllAboutYou-Studio.com (Our Yoga Studio) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
Re: [WSG] Site review - alachua co library
Just a quick thank you to everyone who replied, it's been a *huge* help. I'm carefully going over the site with your comments in mind and making many changes based upon them. I'm still very busy, but as soon as things slow down I'll try to respond in detail - meanwhile I'll just say that if there were no glaring errors, that is in large part due to the invaluable tips and hints I've picked up from careful daily reading of this list. Thanks! Andrew On 2008/02/25 10:31 (GMT-0500) Andrew Maben apparently typed: I'm almost done with a site redesign, and the time is right to ask for your opinions: http://beta.www.aclib.us for comparison, the current site is: http://www.aclib.us *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review - alachua co library
On 2008/02/27 18:39 (GMT+1100) John Hancock apparently typed: Here's a screenshot of a typical moderately high resolution environment: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/SC/sc-alaclib1.jpg and the setup source: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/tmp/sc-alaclib1.html Just a thought, but a moderately high resolution environment to me is a setup of over 3mpx. For instance, dual 20 TFTs, dual 19 CRT or single 30 etc. A high resolution environment for me is about 7.5mpx. While I'm aware that your mileage may vary, a 1680 x 1200 pixel screen size is certainly not a standard one! I was hoping anyone who noticed that would just ignore it. I don't use flat panel displays, because they are just not suited to alternative screen resolutions desirable for thorough testing. What you see there in 1680x1200 is a virtual resolution, while the screenshot itself is exactly the fullscreen px size of typical 22 desktop displays now common in stores, and of typical 16 17 laptops. The actual physical resolution is UXGA 1600x1200, with an 80px wide virtual addition. On Linux, nearly any virtual resolution is possible without fancy hardware or additional software. :-) Thus I'm really curious about your definition of a standard one! The standard LCDs now commonly available at retail new are: XGA 1024x768 (4:3) (slightly low, usually 15) SXGA 1280x1024 (5:4) (standard or base, almost exclusively 17 or 19) WXGA 1280x800 (16:10) (standard or base, 11.1 to 15.4) SXGA+ 1400x1050 (4:3) (standard or base, 20) WXGA+ 1440x900 (16:10) (slightly high, 16 to 21) WSXGA+ 1680x1050 (16:10) (moderately high, 16 to 23) UXGA 1600x1200 (4:3) (high, 20 to 22) WUXGA 1920x1200 (16:10) (high, 16 to 27) Naturally the meanings vary according to whether desktop or laptop, as the average PPI for laptops is much higher than for desktops, which is why the common 120 DPI replacement for 96 DPI is provided by laptop OEMs. The Standard Panels Working Group (SPWG) isn't the fastest moving of organisations, admittedly, but you'll find that they're usually ratifying 16:10 aspect ratios as standard - something to consider when designing sites. Additionally, those of us with extremely large working areas should usually have a 17 TFT or lower to test on for 'the great unpixeled'. Or a large CRT and a small CRT, which can provide the utility of at least 3 LCDs - each! Most panels just don't have usable optional resolutions. -- For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review - alachua co library
On 2008/02/25 10:31 (GMT-0500) Andrew Maben apparently typed: I'm almost done with a site redesign, and the time is right to ask for your opinions: http://beta.www.aclib.us for comparison, the current site is: http://www.aclib.us ... Of course accessibility is important, and this is where your insights and criticisms can be especially helpful. http://www.andrewmaben.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's quite a bit better than its close neighbor http://www.ufl.edu/ and better in some ways than the original, but worse in others. I really don't like the artificial width constraint that the original lacks. Width should only be constrained to less than 100% of the window width to the extent wider would produce too long line lengths for comfortable reading. There's no chance of that on the new page, while quite a bit of it looks over-constrained without enlarging the text, and most of it does with text enlargement. The other problem is the same as most of the web, too much too small text. Nearly right smack dab in the middle of above the fold content is what looks like primary content, yet it's shrunken to the size of UI text, smaller than the menu text, creating the inference that it's less important than other content. Most of the text-in-image content is illegible or nearly so on median or higher resolution displays. Those using the most expensive laptops will not be pleased at the mousetype effect of africanamerican_history_onli.gif hot_topics/webfeat.jpg or the last line of acld_Logo.gif. Foreground images can and in many cases should be scaled up to match surrounding text, and these are some of those cases. At least the original is blatantly up front about enabling large enough to read text. Here's a screenshot of a typical moderately high resolution environment: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/SC/sc-alaclib1.jpg and the setup source: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/tmp/sc-alaclib1.html The main branch used to be about a 10 minute walk from where I lived. If I still lived just a bit closer I might be inclined to ride over to the main branch, find the manager, and complain about waste of money on a redesign that doesn't amount to much readily apparent improvement. Maybe its only real goal is to get people in to read printed material that doesn't suffer from the web's normally too small text, but if that's it, the address and phone number should be at least as big as it is in the phone book. :-p -- For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review - alachua co library
Hi Felix, Here's a screenshot of a typical moderately high resolution environment: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/SC/sc-alaclib1.jpg and the setup source: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/tmp/sc-alaclib1.html Just a thought, but a moderately high resolution environment to me is a setup of over 3mpx. For instance, dual 20 TFTs, dual 19 CRT or single 30 etc. A high resolution environment for me is about 7.5mpx. While I'm aware that your mileage may vary, a 1680 x 1200 pixel screen size is certainly not a standard one! Thus I'm really curious about your definition of a standard one! The Standard Panels Working Group (SPWG) isn't the fastest moving of organisations, admittedly, but you'll find that they're usually ratifying 16:10 aspect ratios as standard - something to consider when designing sites. Additionally, those of us with extremely large working areas should usually have a 17 TFT or lower to test on for 'the great unpixeled'. kind regards, John Hancock Identity [EMAIL PROTECTED] t: +61 2 8012 0274 f: +61 2 9799 6135 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Site review
I'm almost done with a site redesign, and the time is right to ask for your opinions: http://beta.www.aclib.us for comparison, the current site is: http://www.aclib.us I'm aiming for HTML 4.01 Strict compliance, and am periodically running the W3C Validator, so no need to notify me of validation errors. Of course accessibility is important, and this is where your insights and criticisms can be especially helpful. There's some use of Javascript, mostly to show/hide content - I'm finishing up some changes to remove the JS dependency for these enhancements, (but I'm still using onClick which I'll be replacing as soon as I get a chance - deadline compromise...) I'm not thrilled with the IA, and though changes may be hard to sell or implement, I'd welcome any reasoned criticism on this front. I have yet to write the CSS for print and for mobile devices, and would welcome suggestions here too, as well as from iPhone/iPod Touch users. Thanks in advance. Andrew http://www.andrewmaben.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a well designed user interface, the user should not need instructions. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review
Hi Andrew, The site looks nice. I put the address into W3C Validator and its passed the 4.01 Transitional but has 23 warnings..strange.. Maybe the other members can explain, anyway its anice site and looks fine in FF. I am on the following: Win XP 1680x1050 SP2 IE Kate Bichon Frise: http://jungaling.com/kynismarmissmillie/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review
On 2/25/08, Andrew Maben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course accessibility is important, and this is where your insights and criticisms can be especially helpful. here's a tool to check web site accessibility: http://www.tawdis.net/taw3/cms/en it suggests guidelines. dwain -- dwain alford The artist may use any form which his expression demands; for his inner impulse must find suitable expression. Kandinsky *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review
I'm almost done with a site redesign, and the time is right to ask for your opinions: http://beta.www.aclib.ushttp://beta.www.aclib.us for comparison, the current site is: http://www.aclib.ushttp://www.aclib.us I'm aiming for HTML 4.01 Strict compliance, and am periodically running the W3C Validator, so no need to notify me of validation errors. Just curious why you chose HTML instead of XHTML. Personally I like XHTML 1.0 Transitional. Of course accessibility is important, and this is where your insights and criticisms can be especially helpful. Using the Functional Accessibility Evaluator (http://fae.cita.uiuc.edu), there are minor issues: 1. The best practice recommendation is that your H1 tag match you page title. 2. Your form control for the Search should have a label element associated with them. 3. Pretty good use of header mark up. In conjunction with this, it is generally recommended your Primary Navigation should be an unordered list rather than a definition list and should be preceded by a header tag. That way disabled users can navigate to the list by headers and therefore Skip nav links are not necessary. 4. The alt tag for the WebFeat jpg should have some content. 5. Use of the i tag (on African-American History Online), should be replaced with em. Use of the i tag is considered deprecated because it is more presentation markup than semantic. 6. Your page should declare a language type. This goes in the HTML element. Everything else looks good with the one caveat that the 36px for catSearchLabel is overkill. Besides the point that font-sizes should always be in ems or %.) Do you really want it to be that predominant? It also quickly overwhelms the page when the user has to bump up the other font sizes. Also if you do want it predominant, I suggest making Search a header tag rather than a styled paragraph. That way it maintains its importance when CSS is removed. One free tidbit - try the Firefox Accessibility Extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1891) This is a great toolbar for testing your page to see how accessible it is. Best regards, -Tim -- Tim Offenstein *** Campus Accessibility Liaison *** (217) 244-2700 CITES Departmental Services *** www.uiuc.edu/goto/offenstein *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review
No big layout issues at all but on a quick perusal there are few things I've noticed: The stripey background - close thin stripes get flickery and a bit distracting when the page is scrolled IE: - the search area needs some cross-browser attention. font-sizes, input widths and the submit button padding are a bit dicey (but at least similar in IE). - the text 'Search:' has lost the clear-type filter that IE7 imposes. I only know of this to happen when another IE CSS filter is applied to the element or its parent. Typically it's the opacity filter that's the culprit but it doesn't look like you've used that and I don't know off the top of my head what else causes it. -Rob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site review
On Feb 25, 2008, at 10:47 AM, Robert O'Rourke wrote: No big layout issues at all but on a quick perusal there are few things I've noticed: The stripey background - close thin stripes get flickery and a bit distracting when the page is scrolled Same here. I find the background distracting. Another thing is the lack of spacing in areas such as menus, headings, paragraphs and images. E.g. increasing the padding top/bottom for all menus; add padding left for h2 to h6; add padding left for p or margin right/ bottom for the image floated left and margin left/bottom for image floated right; give padding or margin top for logo and skip to main content. Appropriate spacing around content blocks really can make a site looks so much user-friendly and nice looking, and visually, more accessible for the eyes. It seems to me a common oversight by the web developers who are more programming and technically savvy, but in my humble opinion, one doesn't need to have a graphic design degree to appreciate the need for spacing. Just think of the feelings you have being in the crowd and in the open space, you can easily see the difference it can make for a site without spacing. Cheers, tee *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Site review
It looks good, but I'd agree with Tee, it needs some spacing. Interesting use of DLs, but I would not use display:none to hide the DT (shoot them off-screen). Also, I'd get rid of the DIV wrappers you have around these DLs. I think you could remove a few other DIVs from the markup. If the large image in the Hot Topics section has an empty alt attribute, why not using it as a background image? Right now you have it wrapped in a div that is floated right and that image inside is floated *left* (?) with extra margin values. I'm not sure what you're doing with the P before the H1, I think you could achieve the same thing using a real image in that H1 [1] I'd style the skip nav on focus, because that link is very small and the outline barely shows [1] http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/tip.asp -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Maben Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:32 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Site review I'm almost done with a site redesign, and the time is right to ask for your opinions: http://beta.www.aclib.us for comparison, the current site is: http://www.aclib.us I'm aiming for HTML 4.01 Strict compliance, and am periodically running the W3C Validator, so no need to notify me of validation errors. Of course accessibility is important, and this is where your insights and criticisms can be especially helpful. There's some use of Javascript, mostly to show/hide content - I'm finishing up some changes to remove the JS dependency for these enhancements, (but I'm still using onClick which I'll be replacing as soon as I get a chance - deadline compromise...) I'm not thrilled with the IA, and though changes may be hard to sell or implement, I'd welcome any reasoned criticism on this front. I have yet to write the CSS for print and for mobile devices, and would welcome suggestions here too, as well as from iPhone/iPod Touch users. Thanks in advance. Andrew http://www.andrewmaben.com/ http://www.andrewmaben.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a well designed user interface, the user should not need instructions. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
Nice job on that one. I only thing I could find wrong was the use of javascript: pseudo links. *Joseph R. B. Taylor* Sites by Joe, LLC /Custom Web Design Development/ Phone: (609) 335-3076 www.sitesbyjoe.com http://www.sitesbyjoe.com Snadden Tim wrote: www.richardson.co.nz In Firefox 2/Opera on Windows the lightbox images show 'null' as the caption. All the best. This email with any attachments is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If it is not intended for you please reply immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or use it in any way. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
www.richardson.co.nz In Firefox 2/Opera on Windows the lightbox images show 'null' as the caption. All the best. This email with any attachments is confidential and may be subject to legal privilege. If it is not intended for you please reply immediately, destroy it and do not copy, disclose or use it in any way. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. Thanks heaps! -- Samuel Richardson Freelance Web Developer www.richardson.co.nz | 0405 472 748 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
Looks good. Only comment I'd make is about your skills and their ratings: at the moment that information is only really of value to people already in the web dev game and not really useful to anyone who doesn't know anything about web development but who wants a website done. If you're not really targetting the latter sort of people, and are only looking to outsource your work to other agencies, then what you've got is probably fine. On Mon, 28 May 2007 11:05:01 +1000, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. Thanks heaps! -- Tyssen Design www.tyssendesign.com.au Ph: (07) 3300 3303 Mb: 0405 678 590 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
Samuel Richardson wrote: G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. Thanks heaps! I only looked at the home page. A piece of the browser scrollbar (very strange) is covering the last numeral of what I assume is your phone number in Safari and Mac FF and Opera. The page is ok in XP FF, Opera, and IE7 and IE6. The start point(before scaling the fonts) of the content text in Mac Opera is almost unreadable for me (I am at 1680). Best, ~dL *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
risk of going OT but I would like to ask you why did you choose a one page info page with anchor links going down to the content??? I thought multi pages would be the way to go apart from this I do not really have any problems with it, the menu is a bit small though Thanks and sorry On 5/28/07, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. Thanks heaps! -- Samuel Richardson Freelance Web Developer www.richardson.co.nz | 0405 472 748 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- JP2 Designs http://www.jp2designs.com http://www.germworks.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
Hi Sam, It looks great but there are lots of grammar errors. I also noticed that in your CV you seem to be missing employment details on your current position? When I scrolled down to where you have rated your skills there is a scrollbar thing happening that looks ugly and obscures some of the text. (I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2) Also, I think if I didn't work in Web dev, I wouldn't understand what all that meant... if I was a customer I'd want to know what is ASP, PHP etc and what can it do for me and my web site? Cheers, Mary-Anne Samuel Richardson wrote, On 28/05/07 11:05 AM: G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. Thanks heaps! -- ~ Mary-Anne Nayler Department of Defence Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 2 6127 5327 ~ ~ ~ ~ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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Cool, thanks for the comments. It sounds like I still have a few cross browser issues to work out, lucky I just bought a Mac :D The portfolio is strictly for design agencies to get an idea of what I can do rather then the public. I went with a one page design to get the content across quickly, I didn't feel the site warranted multiple pages with such little content. I'll proof the content a bit more, that was one area I'm a little unsure on. Thanks, Samuel On 5/28/07, Mary-Anne Nayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sam, It looks great but there are lots of grammar errors. I also noticed that in your CV you seem to be missing employment details on your current position? When I scrolled down to where you have rated your skills there is a scrollbar thing happening that looks ugly and obscures some of the text. (I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2) Also, I think if I didn't work in Web dev, I wouldn't understand what all that meant... if I was a customer I'd want to know what is ASP, PHP etc and what can it do for me and my web site? Cheers, Mary-Anne Samuel Richardson wrote, On 28/05/07 11:05 AM: G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. Thanks heaps! -- ~ Mary-Anne Nayler Department of Defence Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 2 6127 5327 ~ ~ ~ ~ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** -- Samuel Richardson Freelance Web Developer www.richardson.co.nz | 0405 472 748 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
Hi Samuel: Good work dude ;) The site looks neat, cool and usable. Still I have a couple of suggestions: 1) To make the headings bigger 2) Maybe provide with a simple form to get in touch with you 3) N i think copy needs to be reviewed otherwise looks awesome, have a look at mine to ! Best -P www.puneetsakhuja.com - Original Message - From: Samuel Richardson To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Mon, 28 May 2007 11:05:01 +1000 Subject: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz) G'day all, I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript development etc. Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: www.richardson.co.nz I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. Thanks heaps! -- Samuel Richardson Freelance Web Developer www.richardson.co.nz | 0405 472 748 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz)
I dont find anything wrong is displaying all the content on one page. The main concern is to provide the content and information required with minimum clicks and in the most efficient manner, n thats the latest trend mate ! thats what i did with my website, have a look www.puneetsakhuja.com neways good work dude, as somebody said, just the grammer etc needs to be reviewed. Best -P - Original Message - From: Samuel Richardson To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Mon, 28 May 2007 14:04:08 +1000 Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review (www.richardson.co.nz) Cool, thanks for the comments. It sounds like I still have a few cross browser issues to work out, lucky I just bought a Mac :D The portfolio is strictly for design agencies to get an idea of what I can do rather then the public. I went with a one page design to get the content across quickly, I didn't feel the site warranted multiple pages with such little content. I'll proof the content a bit more, that was one area I'm a little unsure on. Thanks, Samuel On 5/28/07, Mary-Anne Nayler lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: gt; Hi Sam, gt; gt; It looks great but there are lots of grammar errors. I also noticed that gt; in your CV you seem to be missing employment details on your current gt; position? gt; When I scrolled down to where you have rated your skills there is a gt; scrollbar thing happening that looks ugly and obscures some of the text. gt; (I'm using Mozilla 1.7.2) Also, I think if I didn't work in Web dev, I gt; wouldn't understand what all that meant... if I was a customer I'd want gt; to know what is ASP, PHP etc and what can it do for me and my web site? gt; gt; Cheers, gt; gt; Mary-Anne gt; gt; Samuel Richardson wrote, On 28/05/07 11:05 AM: gt; gt; gt; G'day all, gt; gt; gt; gt; I've decided to make the jump from full time web development to gt; gt; freelance work. Mostly front end development, (X)HTML/CSS/JavaScript gt; gt; development etc. gt; gt; gt; gt; Anyway, to support myself, I've created a portfolio here: gt; gt; gt; gt; www.richardson.co.nz gt; gt; gt; gt; I just want to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious with the gt; gt; build phase of things. If you've all got time to have a look at the gt; gt; code/design and give me some feedback that would be fantastic. gt; gt; gt; gt; It's somewhat off topic but I don't think my copy writing is too hot, gt; gt; if anyone has some suggestions on how to present myself better then gt; gt; I'd love to hear them. I'm going to be dealing strictly with design gt; gt; companies rather then the public so I've tried to keep thing short. gt; gt; gt; gt; Thanks heaps! gt; gt; gt; gt; -- gt; ~ gt; Mary-Anne Nayler gt; Department of Defence gt; Australia gt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; +61 2 6127 5327 gt; gt; gt; gt; ~ gt; ~ gt; ~ gt; ~ gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; *** gt; List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm gt; Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm gt; Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; *** gt; gt; -- Samuel Richardson Freelance Web Developer www.richardson.co.nz | 0405 472 748 *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Site Review
Hello all,Please can you review and give comment on the following:http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.htmlThanks in advanceDarren
Re: [WSG] Site Review
Darren, on Monday, January 30, 2006 at 12:26 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.html You've got some problems in your HTML: 1. with/height attributes of img tags don't accept units. 2. the inputs need name attributes (but I guess you will add these later) You should provide some alt-Text for the images of the properties. A page title would be nice ;-) Maybe you should wrap the ie7 script in a conditional comment for only IE using it. The use of strong in: pImage strong1/strong of strong10/strong/p isn't very semantic IMHO, but substituting it by span doesn't add much value too. For the address I'd use a definition list: dl id=agent dtAcme Estate Agents/dt ddThe White House/dd ddLodge Road/dd ddNW4 4DD/dd ddTel: 0208 457 4777/dd ddFax: 0208 457 4765/dd dda href=contactagent.htmlEmail Agent/a/dd /dl instead of: div id=agent h2Acme Estate Agents/h2 pThe White Housebr / Lodge Roadbr / Londonbr / NW4 4DD/p pTel: 0208 457 4777/p pFax: 0208 457 4765/p pa href=contactagent.htmlEmail Agent/a/p /div You could also add some classes for defining the microformat. regards Martin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Title: Re: [WSG] Site Review No title? Using Team makes no sense to me but maybe because its early. Join Team screams for a The in middle. Find property is above the header. I can understand accessibility options being above but Find Property? Maybe list the items (each sale block) Check the CSS Validation. You left a few items on your localhost. Zach // zachinglis.com At 30/1/06 11:26: Darren West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Please can you review and give comment on the following: http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.html Thanks in advance Darren
Re: [WSG] Site Review
Hi Darren, The markup look pretty slick! My only comment would be around your use of the strong element. For example: pProperty strong3/strong of strong500/strong found/p Have you ever heard a screen reader when it hits strong elements? For this reason I suggest just using a span and 'class' instead to create the bold visual effect - just a personal preference of mine!! Also, maybe for the price you could doing this to improve accessibility. For example, you have: pstrong£450,000/strong/p whereas you can create the same effect visually, but improve (in my opinion) semantics and accessibility by doing something like: h3 class="hide"Price/h3 p class="price"£450,000/p Anyway, my suggestions are neither here nore there and probably more about my our personal preferences more than anything else. Cheers Nathan - Original Message - From: Darren West To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: [WSG] Site Review Hello all,Please can you review and give comment on the following:http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.htmlhttp://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.htmlThanks in advanceDarren
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Thanks Nathan,I have removed the strong elements and replaced them with a class for the price, I will have a think regarding the H3 as the context is already set and their is no other monetary data on screen. Do you have a recommended screen reader for testing?DazOn 30/01/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Darren, The markup look pretty slick! My only comment would be around your use of the strong element. For example: pProperty strong3/strong of strong500/strong found/p Have you ever heard a screen reader when it hits strong elements? For this reason I suggest just using a span and 'class' instead to create the bold visual effect - just a personal preference of mine!! Also, maybe for the price you could doing this to improve accessibility. For example, you have: pstrong£450,000/strong/p whereas you can create the same effect visually, but improve (in my opinion) semantics and accessibility by doing something like: h3 class=hidePrice/h3 p class=price£450,000/p Anyway, my suggestions are neither here nore there and probably more about my our personal preferences more than anything else. Cheers Nathan - Original Message - From: Darren West To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 10:26 PM Subject: [WSG] Site Review Hello all,Please can you review and give comment on the following:http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.htmlThanks in advanceDarren
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Thanks Martin,I have sorted all issues highlighted apart from the DL for the address as only one item will ever appear - would DL still be appropriate? and microformats leave with me.Daz On 30/01/06, Martin Heiden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Darren,on Monday, January 30, 2006 at 12:26 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.htmlYou've got some problems in your HTML:1. with/height attributes of img tags don't accept units. 2. the inputs need name attributes (but I guess you will add these later)You should provide some alt-Text for the images of the properties.A page title would be nice ;-)Maybe you should wrap the ie7 script in a conditional comment for only IE using it.The use of strong in:pImage strong1/strong of strong10/strong/pisn't very semantic IMHO, but substituting it by span doesn't add much value too.For the address I'd use a definition list:dl id=agentdtAcme Estate Agents/dtddThe White House/Lodge Road/dd ddNW4 4DD/Tel: 0208 457 4777/Fax: 0208 457 4765/a href="" Agent/a/dd/dl instead of:div id=agenth2Acme Estate Agents/h2pThe White Housebr /Lodge Roadbr /Londonbr / NW4 4DD/ppTel: 0208 457 4777/ppFax: 0208 457 4765/ppa href="" Agent/a/p /divYou could also add some classes for defining the microformat.regardsMartin**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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Should an agent's address really be a definition list?? If you want that sort of semantic pedantry, the markup should be: block tag hxAcme Estate Agents/hx dl dtAddress/dt dd The...Housebr/ Lodge Roa...4DD/dd dtTelephone/dt dd0208 457 4777/dd... /dl /block tag I DO think that definition lists are over used and often misused. They should really only be used for concise definitions. An list of untitled contact details does not constitute a concise definition of an agent. Otherwise, the idea of web data becoming machine-readable is defeated. Stephen On 30 Jan 2006, at 11:48, Martin Heiden wrote: Darren, on Monday, January 30, 2006 at 12:26 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.html You've got some problems in your HTML: 1. with/height attributes of img tags don't accept units. 2. the inputs need name attributes (but I guess you will add these later) You should provide some alt-Text for the images of the properties. A page title would be nice ;-) Maybe you should wrap the ie7 script in a conditional comment for only IE using it. The use of strong in: pImage strong1/strong of strong10/strong/p isn't very semantic IMHO, but substituting it by span doesn't add much value too. For the address I'd use a definition list: dl id=agent dtAcme Estate Agents/dt ddThe White House/dd ddLodge Road/dd ddNW4 4DD/dd ddTel: 0208 457 4777/dd ddFax: 0208 457 4765/dd dda href=contactagent.htmlEmail Agent/a/dd /dl instead of: div id=agent h2Acme Estate Agents/h2 pThe White Housebr / Lodge Roadbr / Londonbr / NW4 4DD/p pTel: 0208 457 4777/p pFax: 0208 457 4765/p pa href=contactagent.htmlEmail Agent/a/p /div You could also add some classes for defining the microformat. regards Martin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
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How about the list of class 'properties', should that be an un-ordered list?DazOn 30/01/06, Stephen Stagg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Should an agent's address really be a definition list?? If you want that sort of semantic pedantry, the markup should be:block taghxAcme Estate Agents/hxdldtAddress/dtddThe...Housebr/ Lodge Roa...4DD/dddtTelephone/dtdd0208 457 4777/dd.../dl/block tagI DO think that definition lists are over used and often misused. They should really only be used for concise definitions.An list ofuntitled contact details does not constitute a concise definition ofan agent.Otherwise, the idea of web data becoming machine-readableis defeated. StephenOn 30 Jan 2006, at 11:48, Martin Heiden wrote: Darren, on Monday, January 30, 2006 at 12:26 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/properties.html http://ta.rt-ms.net/2/propertydetails.html You've got some problems in your HTML: 1. with/height attributes of img tags don't accept units. 2. the inputs need name attributes (but I guess you will add theselater) You should provide some alt-Text for the images of the properties. A page title would be nice ;-) Maybe you should wrap the ie7 script in a conditional comment for only IE using it. The use of strong in: pImage strong1/strong of strong10/strong/p isn't very semantic IMHO, but substituting it by span doesn't add much value too. For the address I'd use a definition list: dl id=agent dtAcme Estate Agents/dt ddThe White House/dd ddLodge Road/dd ddNW4 4DD/dd ddTel: 0208 457 4777/dd ddFax: 0208 457 4765/dd dda href="" Email Agent/a/dd /dl instead of: div id=agent h2Acme Estate Agents/h2 pThe White Housebr / Lodge Roadbr / Londonbr / NW4 4DD/p pTel: 0208 457 4777/p pFax: 0208 457 4765/p pa href="" contactagent.htmlEmail Agent/a/p /div You could also add some classes for defining the microformat. regards Martin ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**
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Stephen, on Monday, January 30, 2006 at 17:01 wsg@webstandardsgroup.org wrote: Should an agent's address really be a definition list?? I only wrote that I would do it that way. If you want that sort of semantic pedantry, the markup should be: block tag hxAcme Estate Agents/hx dl dtAddress/dt dd The...Housebr/ Lodge Roa...4DD/dd dtTelephone/dt dd0208 457 4777/dd... /dl /block tag I DO think that definition lists are over used and often misused. I do think that your advice is a misusage of the dl. What you define is a table. You substitute th by dt and td by dd. I don't think that definition lists are meant like that. For addressing the machine readability I'd choose hcard microformat. But I think that discussing this won't bring us any further... There were lots of threads on this list discussing how to markup an address and I don't think that there is the ONE way to do it right. Everyone has to choose his/her way... regards Martin ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
Thanks all for your assistance! :-) --ZacharyOn 10/3/05, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just looked at the page in a text browser (links) and there's a coupleof anoying issues.1. This is not bad, but a bit of an anoyance. There is a notice aboutnot having _javascript_. This appears at the top of the page. I don't think this is really neccisary. If you really want it, put it at thebottom of the page.2. The links on the front page for VBdoodle and Web Design don't show upbecause of the lack of CSS support. Mabye this was intentional, but it would be nice if you had it like it was for the third box or something.3. The links for validation appear right at the top. I understand whythey're there (and it looks pretty cool in css browsers). I don't know if there would be any simple way to have this put at the bottom fortext-browsers, but it would be nice if you could because they're not themost important links on your site.For the most part though, things look fine though. It sure beats most of the sites on the internet.Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Hopkins Programming wrote: @All - Still need suggestions on the WAI conundrum. http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Well, I think you should definitely put some descriptive text in those links, as my text-only browsers can't even see that there are links there at the moment. Don't think that qualifies for 'AAA'... Something like - 'learn more about wb doodle' - 'learn more about web design' would solve that. An 'off screen' technique will make it work with CSS off. .off-screen {position: absolute; top: -9000px; left: -9000px;} However, since such a link-text should also work as a substitute for an alt-attribute--with images off, maybe better leave the text on screen and use a variant of http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_14.html Should satisfy WAI-checkpoints and will work no matter what -- and may even be useful for visitors. Georg** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**-- == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com
Nolan Winthrop wrote: Thanks for the comments, Georg, Wybe. I've made some corrections to it: notably shifting to percentages and ems for font-sizes; changing to onfocus for the search form. The use of small root-value for font-size (76% on body in your case) has the negative side-effect of giving variable results across browser-land when 'minimum font size' is enforced. See: http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_1_03_04.html#ex3 I guess it's an accepted hazard in the community since so many sites/designers are completely ignoring the whole issue :-) However, it does affect headlines on your page. I do have one question that just came up while I was chatting with a friend: Does the hreflang attribute on links do anything, really, or is it just a cosmetic thing that no browser does anything with? (I'm using it on links to materials in Mandarin/Malay to indicate that the content of those sites/pages is in a language other than English.) Not updated for the latest browser-versions, but... http://www.w3.org/International/tests/results/link-element Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com
On 3 Oct 2005, at 5:47 pm, Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: I do have one question that just came up while I was chatting with a friend: Does the hreflang attribute on links do anything, really, or is it just a cosmetic thing that no browser does anything with? (I'm using it on links to materials in Mandarin/Malay to indicate that the content of those sites/pages is in a language other than English.) Not updated for the latest browser-versions, but... http://www.w3.org/International/tests/results/link-element That list is -unfortunately maybe- quite up to to date. One could add iCab 3.0 which has a similar 'navigation' bar as Opera and Mozilla to the list that do something in the UI with some of the link attributes. The hreflang attribute isn't used by any browser, I think. You can style it, though, via css2 attribute selectors. Something like this: a[hreflang]::after { content: [attr(hreflang)]; font-style:italic; color:#6c767f } Philippe --- Philippe Wittenbergh http://emps.l-c-n.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
On http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products/vbdoodle/ the text in the 'VB DOODLE' box is overfollowing. This is on Firefox 1.0.7 Gentoo Linux. My guess is that this is an issue with fonts because my default font is not that ugly monster (:P) known as Times New Romans. Fonts tend to be quite an issue because the fonts on one system are often different (in size and style) that the ones on another. It's not a serious issue, but if you could avoid fixed heights that would be nice. Hopkins Programming wrote: Hey guys, If you wouldn't mind checking out my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I would greatly appreciate it. There is one thing in particular I would like help with - On the homepage, the 3 large images are divs w/background images, and display:block hyperlinks. It works fine, but it fails WAI WCAG 1.0 Priority 2 Checkpoint 13.1 - Create link phrases http://webxact2.watchfire.com/themes/standard-en-us/help/HIDD_WDContent_G34.html that make sense when read out of context. I know it can be fixed by changing my p's to span's and moving them inside the hyperlinks, but is that something I should do? The text in the p's is good, but I don't think it's worthy of being in a hyperlink. Would it be best to create a short sentence to go in the hyperlinks that briefly describes the page the user will get when the link is clicked, or ? Any assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated. You're welcome to poke around for other problems (I know have a few sementic naming issues in my CSS) because I always like feedback. Thanks a bundle guys! --Zachary Hopkins * Reference Links: Website: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ W3C WCAG: http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ -- == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
@Alan - I'm still working on the subsequent pages. The home page is all ive updated at the moment. Thx for the heads up. @All - Still need suggestions on the WAI conundrum. Thanks all! ---ZacharyOn 10/3/05, Alan Trick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/products/vbdoodle/ the text in the'VB DOODLE' box is overfollowing. This is on Firefox 1.0.7 Gentoo Linux.My guess is that this is an issue with fonts because my default font is not that ugly monster (:P) known as Times New Romans. Fonts tend to bequite an issue because the fonts on one system are often different (insize and style) that the ones on another. It's not a serious issue, but if you could avoid fixed heights that would be nice.Hopkins Programming wrote: Hey guys, If you wouldn't mind checking out my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I would greatly appreciate it. There is one thing in particular I would like help with - On the homepage, the 3 large images are divs w/background images, and display:block hyperlinks.It works fine, but it fails WAI WCAG 1.0 Priority 2 Checkpoint 13.1 - Create link phrases http://webxact2.watchfire.com/themes/standard-en-us/help/HIDD_WDContent_G34.html that make sense when read out of context.I know it can be fixed by changing my p's to span's and moving them inside the hyperlinks, but is that something I should do?The text in the p's is good, but I don't think it's worthy of being in a hyperlink.Would it be best to create a short sentence to go in the hyperlinks that briefly describes the page the user will get when the link is clicked, or ? Any assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated.You're welcome to poke around for other problems (I know have a few sementic naming issues in my CSS) because I always like feedback. Thanks a bundle guys! --Zachary Hopkins * Reference Links:Website: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/W3C WCAG: http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ -- == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net**The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help** -- ==The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
Hopkins Programming wrote: @All - Still need suggestions on the WAI conundrum. http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Well, I think you should definitely put some descriptive text in those links, as my text-only browsers can't even see that there are links there at the moment. Don't think that qualifies for 'AAA'... Something like - 'learn more about wb doodle' - 'learn more about web design' would solve that. An 'off screen' technique will make it work with CSS off. .off-screen {position: absolute; top: -9000px; left: -9000px;} However, since such a link-text should also work as a substitute for an alt-attribute--with images off, maybe better leave the text on screen and use a variant of http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_14.html Should satisfy WAI-checkpoints and will work no matter what -- and may even be useful for visitors. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
I just looked at the page in a text browser (links) and there's a couple of anoying issues. 1. This is not bad, but a bit of an anoyance. There is a notice about not having javascript. This appears at the top of the page. I don't think this is really neccisary. If you really want it, put it at the bottom of the page. 2. The links on the front page for VBdoodle and Web Design don't show up because of the lack of CSS support. Mabye this was intentional, but it would be nice if you had it like it was for the third box or something. 3. The links for validation appear right at the top. I understand why they're there (and it looks pretty cool in css browsers). I don't know if there would be any simple way to have this put at the bottom for text-browsers, but it would be nice if you could because they're not the most important links on your site. For the most part though, things look fine though. It sure beats most of the sites on the internet. Gunlaug Sørtun wrote: Hopkins Programming wrote: @All - Still need suggestions on the WAI conundrum. http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Well, I think you should definitely put some descriptive text in those links, as my text-only browsers can't even see that there are links there at the moment. Don't think that qualifies for 'AAA'... Something like - 'learn more about wb doodle' - 'learn more about web design' would solve that. An 'off screen' technique will make it work with CSS off. .off-screen {position: absolute; top: -9000px; left: -9000px;} However, since such a link-text should also work as a substitute for an alt-attribute--with images off, maybe better leave the text on screen and use a variant of http://www.gunlaug.no/contents/wd_chaos_14.html Should satisfy WAI-checkpoints and will work no matter what -- and may even be useful for visitors. Georg ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com
I've finally bit the bullet and built a fairly (I hope) standards compliant website, 47 Words (http://www.47words.com). I've just run it through the W3 Validators (CSS and XHTML) and it validates. I'd really appreciate comments on the code, design, any ways I could make the markup more semantic, et cetera. Information on how things appear in Safari and other Mac browsers greatly appreciated, too, as I'm running Win XP. Thanks in advance. Nolan Winthrop ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com
Nolan Winthrop wrote: http://www.47words.com Not exactly following best practices, with font-sizes _and_ line-heights defined in pixels. You're getting the usual result: blocking font-resizing in IE/win and causing text-overlapping in IE/win and Opera if user overrides font-sizes. In short: hard to read. I'd really appreciate comments on the code, design, any ways I could make the markup more semantic, et cetera. Markup and CSS pretty basic. Shouldn't be any problems apart from the above. Design: fine with me. Information on how things appear in Safari and other Mac browsers greatly appreciated, too, as I'm running Win XP. Safari is OK. IE/Mac: page not centered - try writing complete margins on container. Shows nothing in header, and 'search' in wrong place and not very visible. Georg -- http://www.gunlaug.no ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com
Hi Nolan I like it. I was a bit surprised by the blue on hover. Surprise is good, but i don't know about the blue. In your search option you use some _javascript_ which isn't very stable. If the focus is on the input field and i reload the page (in FF) the hole thing is gone. No input field, no "Search". You use the eventhandler 'onclick'. Try 'onfocus'. Bobby likes 'onfocus', so do visitors who don't use a mouse. I've not been able to verify this because i haven't got Helvetica installed on my PC, but Helvetica for PC is supposed to be this cheap, terrible looking font. For Mac it's fine. Maybe someone can comment on that? If this is true about Helvetica i would use Arial in my font-family: "Century Gothic", Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; Nice work. Wybe http://www.sceneone.nl Nolan Winthrop wrote: I've finally bit the bullet and built a fairly (I hope) standards compliant website, 47 Words (http://www.47words.com). I've just run it through the W3 Validators (CSS and XHTML) and it validates. I'd really appreciate comments on the code, design, any ways I could make the markup more semantic, et cetera. Information on how things appear in Safari and other Mac browsers greatly appreciated, too, as I'm running Win XP. Thanks in advance. Nolan Winthrop ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list & getting help **
[WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
Hey guys, If you wouldn't mind checking out my website, http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/, I would greatly appreciate it. There is one thing in particular I would like help with - On the homepage, the 3 large images are divs w/background images, and display:block hyperlinks. It works fine, but it fails WAI WCAG 1.0 Priority 2 Checkpoint 13.1 - Create link phrases that make sense when read out of context. I know it can be fixed by changing my p's to span's and moving them inside the hyperlinks, but is that something I should do? The text in the p's is good, but I don't think it's worthy of being in a hyperlink. Would it be best to create a short sentence to go in the hyperlinks that briefly describes the page the user will get when the link is clicked, or ? Any assistance on this matter would be greatly appreciated. You're welcome to poke around for other problems (I know have a few sementic naming issues in my CSS) because I always like feedback. Thanks a bundle guys! --Zachary Hopkins * Reference Links: Website: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ W3C WCAG: http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ -- ==The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Your px sized containers aren't giving their content enough room to fit: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp1.png If you set height in em's vertical inadequacy shouldn't happen. -- Be quick to listen, slow to speak.James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
I can change those. But, the backgrounds are set not to repeat vertically. So would it be better to a) Let the text flow into empty white space; b) set a bckgound color and let it flow into that; or c) let the background repeat? Also, just how far up should I assume a user may set their text? Although I design for in Firefox/Opera, I always make sure the text can size properly, given IE's +2 -2 operation. But should I go further? Thanks! --ZacharyOn 10/2/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/Your px sized containers aren't giving their content enough room to fit: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp1.pngIf you set height in em's vertical inadequacy shouldn't happen.--Be quick to listen, slow to speak.James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409Felix Miata***http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**-- == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
You can't just measure it by IE's +2 and -2, because for users with widescreen displays, the default is something like +1. This is because widescreen Windows XP runs at 120 dpi rather than the standard 96 dpi, and to compensate for small text, the text is automatically set to be larger. Therefore it's best to not assume that all users start from font-size:medium. I can change those. But, the backgrounds are set not to repeat vertically. So would it be better to a) Let the text flow into empty white space; b) set a bckgound color and let it flow into that; or c) let the background repeat?I think choice b is the best one.
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm says: use plain text email Hopkins Programming wrote: On 10/2/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Your px sized containers aren't giving their content enough room to fit: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp1.png If you set height in em's vertical inadequacy shouldn't happen. I can change those. But, the backgrounds are set not to repeat vertically. So would it be better to a) Let the text flow into empty white space; b) set a bckgound color and let it flow into that; or c) let the background repeat? B should work, but depending on the background images, which I haven't examined, C might be OK too. I doubt A would be attractive. Also, just how far up should I assume a user may set their text? The 28px setting in that 1792x1344 screenshot is not contrived. It's directly proportional to the 16px common brower default observed at the median 1024x768 resolution. 1344 / 768 X 16px = 28px. That makes the fonts on my 1792x1344 screen exactly the same physical size on any given size display as those using 16px at 1024x768, except that due to the far higher pixel density for any given size mine have a far superior quality even without anti aliasing or hinting. Although I design for in Firefox/Opera, I always make sure the text can size properly, given IE's +2 -2 operation. But should I go further? To say IE has a +2 -2 range isn't the whole story. Medium is actually 12pt, not 16px, though by default they happen to be the same thing. Doze users have the option to change font size system wide, and it is on this base that we find IE font sizes. Once they choose large (120 DPI, the OEM default on many laptops) or larger (there really is no fixed limit, though 200% is the largest that is easy to select), the base range is increased quite a bit, as you can see in this chart in the left table: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/absolute-sizes-IE6.html -- Be quick to listen, slow to speak.James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
Ok guys, I've reworked some of the heights and background images to allow for extended text resizing. I think I got all of the big stuff, does it look work ok for you now Felix? --ZacharyOn 10/2/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm says:use plain text emailHopkins Programming wrote: On 10/2/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/Your px sized containers aren't giving their content enough room to fit:http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp1.pngIf you set height in em's vertical inadequacy shouldn'thappen. I can change those. But, the backgrounds are set not to repeat vertically. So would it be better to a) Let the text flow into empty white space; b) set a bckgound color and let it flow into that; or c) let the background repeat?B should work, but depending on the background images, which I haven'texamined, C might be OK too. I doubt A would be attractive. Also, just how far up should I assume a user may set their text? The 28px setting in that 1792x1344 screenshot is not contrived. It'sdirectly proportional to the 16px common brower default observed at themedian 1024x768 resolution. 1344 / 768 X 16px = 28px. That makes the fonts on my 1792x1344 screen exactly the same physical size on any givensize display as those using 16px at 1024x768, except that due to the farhigher pixel density for any given size mine have a far superior quality even without anti aliasing or hinting. Although I design for in Firefox/Opera, I always make sure the text can size properly, given IE's +2 -2 operation. But should I go further? To say IE has a +2 -2 range isn't the whole story. Medium is actually12pt, not 16px, though by default they happen to be the same thing. Dozeusers have the option to change font size system wide, and it is on this base that we find IE font sizes. Once they choose large (120 DPI, theOEM default on many laptops) or larger (there really is no fixed limit,though 200% is the largest that is easy to select), the base range is increased quite a bit, as you can see in this chart in the left table:http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/absolute-sizes-IE6.html--Be quick to listen, slow to speak.James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409Felix Miata***http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**-- == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com
Thanks for the comments, Georg, Wybe. I've made some corrections to it: notably shifting to percentages and ems for font-sizes; changing to onfocus for the search form. I do have one question that just came up while I was chatting with a friend: Does the hreflang attribute on links do anything, really, or is it just a cosmetic thing that no browser does anything with? (I'm using it on links to materials in Mandarin/Malay to indicate that the content of those sites/pages is in a language other than English.) I think I'll ignore IE Mac for the time being, it seems to be a negligible proportion of my readers anyway. I was mostly worried about how it would render in Safari. Nolan Winthrop http://www.47words.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Ok guys, I've reworked some of the heights and background images to allow for extended text resizing. I think I got all of the big stuff, does it look work ok for you now Felix? You're still not giving several things enough space: http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp2.png -- Be quick to listen, slow to speak.James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: hopkinsprogramming.net/
Ok, For the moment being, I am going to ignore the links in the top right corner and the fieldset in the bottom left. What do you think about the WAI issue? Keep the p's and add in a small span of text inside the link, or put all of the p text into a span and use that? --zacharyOn 10/2/05, Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hopkins Programming wrote: http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net/ Ok guys, I've reworked some of the heights and background images to allow for extended text resizing. I think I got all of the big stuff, does it look work ok for you now Felix?You're still not giving several things enough space:http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/hopkinsp2.png --Be quick to listen, slow to speak.James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409Felix Miata***http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help**-- == The best way to predict the future is to invent it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hopkinsprogramming.net
Re: [WSG] Site Review: www.47words.com
Nolan Winthrop wrote: http://www.47words.com You're not providing enough width for all content to fit in the allotted space . . . http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/SS/47words1.png . . . nor the content enough size to be comfortably read: http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/area76.html (the content should generally be larger than the browser UI): http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/defaultsize.html#note1 You don't know what you're subjecting to a 24% reduction on http://www.47words.com/lib/css/layout.css with 'body {font: 76%/1.33em ...}', so please change it to 'body {font: 100%/1.33 ...}' to respect your visitors' text size preferences. -- Be quick to listen, slow to speak.James 1:19 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://members.ij.net/mrmazda/auth/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Hello David, Over site impression cool its well structured and well designed. Especially I liked color scheme of the site. Some Suggestions: Somehow I am missing link to HOME Page. My observation is majority of people expect to see a Home link. It's not enough that logo is a link to homepage, as many people will not know this. Back to Top link well, I really dont know why, but I personally prefer to have a Back to Top link on a long page. I dont see Accessibility Statement on website or I missed one! Since the site can be operated by keyboard shortcuts (or screen reader compatible? Not sure) its nice idea to have accessibility statement. What do you think? One suggestion I found that lots of links are redirected to different websites. For e.g. Buy Salmon Ardtaraig Fine Foods link. I would suggest to mentioned that link is opening new website or you can indicate the same by simply changing the arrow image in front of the image lota depends on designer. Hmmm I think these suggestions make sense. Please let me know what do you think. Thanks. Best Regards, Amit PimpalnerkarDavid Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone,I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redevelopedhttp://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site.Please do not be scared to be critical. I'm keen to improve the sitein any way possible, so please let me know what you think we could dobetter.FYI, I'm not convinced that the search functionality is as usable asit could be - I'd appreciate your ideas and opinions about thismatter. (However, I'll also understand if this usability issue ismaybe outwith the scope of this list).OK - thanks in advance.Kind regardsDavid**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmfor some hints on posting to the list getting help** Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Amit, Many thanks for your suggestions - I agree with them all! We will definitely take action to improve the site according to your ideas. Kind regards David On 8/3/05, Amit Pimpalnerkar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello David, Over site impression –cool… its well structured and well designed. Especially I liked color scheme of the site. Some Suggestions: Somehow I am missing link to HOME Page. – My observation is majority of people expect to see a Home link. It's not enough that logo is a link to homepage, as many people will not know this. 'Back to Top' link – well, I really don't know why, but I personally prefer to have a 'Back to Top' link on a long page. I don't see 'Accessibility Statement' on website or I missed one! Since the site can be operated by keyboard shortcuts (or screen reader compatible? Not sure) its nice idea to have accessibility statement. What do you think? One suggestion – I found that lots of links are redirected to different websites. For e.g. Buy Salmon Ardtaraig Fine Foods link. I would suggest to mentioned that link is opening new website or you can indicate the same by simply changing the arrow image in front of the image … lota depends on designer. Hmmm… I think these suggestions make sense. Please let me know what do you think. Thanks. Best Regards, Amit Pimpalnerkar David Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. Please do not be scared to be critical. I'm keen to improve the site in any way possible, so please let me know what you think we could do better. FYI, I'm not convinced that the search functionality is as usable as it could be - I'd appreciate your ideas and opinions about this matter. (However, I'll also understand if this usability issue is maybe outwith the scope of this list). OK - thanks in advance. Kind regards David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page
[WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. Please do not be scared to be critical. I'm keen to improve the site in any way possible, so please let me know what you think we could do better. FYI, I'm not convinced that the search functionality is as usable as it could be - I'd appreciate your ideas and opinions about this matter. (However, I'll also understand if this usability issue is maybe outwith the scope of this list). OK - thanks in advance. Kind regards David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Hi David, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. Please do not be scared to be critical. I'm keen to improve the site in any way possible, so please let me know what you think we could do better. Beautiful site. Um, not so beautiful banner ad. Is it possible to do something about that? FYI, I'm not convinced that the search functionality is as usable as it could be - I'd appreciate your ideas and opinions about this matter. (However, I'll also understand if this usability issue is maybe outwith the scope of this list). On the home page, the link to advanced search has a click here thing, which is not very elegant. How about making the Advanced Search text itself a link, and removing the following description? Advanced Search is a fairly common feature so your users most probably will not have a problem with it. cheers, Prabhath http://nidahas.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
On Tue, 2005-08-02 at 11:46 +0100, David Nicol wrote: I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. Just quickly... wow. I didn't know a site about fish could look so good :P Except for the flickery monstrosity at the top (banner ad thing) that wrecks the effect somewhat, of course... can anything be done about that? For your Buy Recipe Books thing, you should perhaps consider doing your images differently - either by using more meaningful ALT text (the cover of ...title... rather than book) or an empty ALT value or (best option in my mind) change your markup a little bit so that under the Buy Recipe Books H1 there is an unordered list, with the book image set as a background (and indent the content with padding). It's semantically defensible (it's a list of books you can buy), and means you lose the probably purely aesthetic images of book covers from your markup. I'd also maybe reconsider your use of H1, but that's a purely personal thing and I can't really argue the point too much! The only other gripe I had was with your Site Map // About Us // Terms and Conditions // Disclaimer // Privacy Policy // Credits line at the bottom of the page... it really should be in a list. You can recreate the slashes with a background image and special first class or ID for the first element in the list... there's also other ways to do it, but I imagine that must be something screen reader users would get sick of quickly: site map slash slash about us slash slash... (presuming that's how it works?) Aside from those fairly minor things, the markup is great quality and the design is similarly alluring (and a nifty logo, if you did that!). Kind Regards, Joshua Street base10solutions Website: http://www.base10solutions.com.au/ Phone: (02) 9898-0060 Fax: (02) 8572-6021 Mobile: 0425 808 469 Multimedia Development Agency E-mails and any attachments sent from base10solutions are to be regarded as confidential. Please do not distribute or publish any of the contents of this e-mail without the sender’s consent. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by replying to the e-mail, and then delete the message without making copies or using it in any way. Although base10solutions takes precautions to ensure that e-mail sent from our accounts are free of viruses, we encourage recipients to undertake their own virus scan on each e-mail before opening, as base10solutions accepts no responsibility for loss or damage caused by the contents of this e-mail. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Prabhath, Thanks for your thoughts about the Advanced Search - I totally agree that we need to improve this element. We'll experiment with some ideas. Regarding the banner, we will be selling this space again soon. I'm not sure if it would be sensible to retain a 'veto' on the banner designs submitted by advertisers, but we should certainly think about this. Joshua, I really appreciate your detailed comments. We will certainly re-think the coding for the recipe books element, and I'll also do work on the links in the footer. Thanks again David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Beautiful! It's just that the banner ad is rather jarring in its present location. Anything you can do about that? When I see salmonrecipes.com with the ad right next to it, it's a bit confusing. Others have given you just the input I would have given. Obviously you put a lot of thought into this design. Great job! Leslie Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
David Nicol wrote: Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. David Nice stuff(I mean Salmon), David. I had to go rather extraordinary means to find any problem-- if, in fact, some of these browsers are even in your clients market: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=180563. When you have time to get around to it, you may feel like correcting the couple of minor css errors. Regards, David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Nicely done! I have a quick question for you (or anyone)... what is the purpose of this code? #content-ctr:after{ display:block; visibility:hidden; content:.; clear:both; height:0; }/* \*/* html #content-ctr{height:1%}/* */ -- Thanks! Matt Harris www.focusontheclouds.com On 8/2/05, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Nicol wrote:Hello everyone,I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redevelopedhttp://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. DavidNice stuff(I mean Salmon), David. I had to go rather extraordinary meansto find any problem-- if, in fact, some of these browsers are even inyour clients market: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=180563. When you havetime to get around to it, you may feel like correcting the couple ofminor css errors. Regards,David Laakso--David Laaksohttp://www.dlaakso.com/**The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Leslie, Thanks for your input - we are working on the banner ad issue now. The short term solution is to find a better advert to place on the site - in the longer term, I think we may find an altogether better way to use this space. David (Laakso) Many thanks for the BrowserCam link - I must admit that I hadn't checked this out before, so it is hugely informative. Thanks again David On 8/2/05, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Nicol wrote: Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. David Nice stuff(I mean Salmon), David. I had to go rather extraordinary means to find any problem-- if, in fact, some of these browsers are even in your clients market: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=180563. When you have time to get around to it, you may feel like correcting the couple of minor css errors. Regards, David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Initial comment, since the site is all about Salmon, probably not worth repeating it in the navigation buttons: Cooking Salmon - Cooking Buy Salmon - Buy Salmon Resources - Resources Apart from that, initial look, looks nice. And it being lunch time and all! Regards Ed Henderson Web Man Walking t: 0131 669 8800 m: 0781 253 6964 f: 0797 062 1532 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.web-man-walking.com a: 48 Eastfield, Edinburgh, EH15 2PN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Matt, I'm reliably informed by our in-house CSS 'guru' that you'll find your answer here@ http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html Hope this makes some sense. Cheers David On 8/2/05, Matt Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely done! I have a quick question for you (or anyone)... what is the purpose of this code? #content-ctr:after{ display:block; visibility:hidden; content:.; clear:both; height:0; } /* \*/ * html #content-ctr{height:1%} /* */ -- Thanks! Matt Harris www.focusontheclouds.com On 8/2/05, David Laakso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Nicol wrote: Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. David Nice stuff(I mean Salmon), David. I had to go rather extraordinary means to find any problem-- if, in fact, some of these browsers are even in your clients market: http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=180563. When you have time to get around to it, you may feel like correcting the couple of minor css errors. Regards, David Laakso -- David Laakso http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Ed I'm inclined to agree with you about there being no need to duplicate 'salmon' so much. We did debate this quite a lot in the office, and I suspect we'll change this next time we do any work on the menu system. cheers David On 8/2/05, Ed Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Initial comment, since the site is all about Salmon, probably not worth repeating it in the navigation buttons: Cooking Salmon - Cooking Buy Salmon - Buy Salmon Resources - Resources Apart from that, initial look, looks nice. And it being lunch time and all! Regards Ed Henderson Web Man Walking t: 0131 669 8800 m: 0781 253 6964 f: 0797 062 1532 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.web-man-walking.com a: 48 Eastfield, Edinburgh, EH15 2PN ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Thanks, David!On 8/2/05, David Nicol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matt,I'm reliably informed by our in-house CSS 'guru' that you'll find youranswer here@http://www.positioniseverything.net/easyclearing.html Hope this makes some sense.CheersDavid
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Hi, Don't have time to nit-pick, going for Salmon. You've certainly achieved your marketing goals! C On Aug 2, 2005, at 3:46 AM, David Nicol wrote: Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. Please do not be scared to be critical. I'm keen to improve the site in any way possible, so please let me know what you think we could do better. FYI, I'm not convinced that the search functionality is as usable as it could be - I'd appreciate your ideas and opinions about this matter. (However, I'll also understand if this usability issue is maybe outwith the scope of this list). OK - thanks in advance. Kind regards David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please - www.SalmonRecipes.Net
Hi again everyone, Thanks for your continued positive comments. FYI, we have changed the banner ad to something more in-keeping with the rest of the site. Hope you like it. Felix ... thanks for the many links. I'll look at them all, and willl discuss the matters in question with the team here. Chris - lol. I'm glad you decided to go and get some salmon! Hope it was/is delicious. Cheers again David On 8/2/05, Chris Kennon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Don't have time to nit-pick, going for Salmon. You've certainly achieved your marketing goals! C On Aug 2, 2005, at 3:46 AM, David Nicol wrote: Hello everyone, I would really appreciate your comments about our recently redeveloped http://www.salmonrecipes.net/ site. Please do not be scared to be critical. I'm keen to improve the site in any way possible, so please let me know what you think we could do better. FYI, I'm not convinced that the search functionality is as usable as it could be - I'd appreciate your ideas and opinions about this matter. (However, I'll also understand if this usability issue is maybe outwith the scope of this list). OK - thanks in advance. Kind regards David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please
Hi Levi, Just looking through the list and saw that you didn't get many replies, so I thought I'd have a shot. You might not have got much of an answer because there's not much to say. My first impression is that there's not much on the site to draw me in or make me want to come back, that may or may not be a problem since the site is catering to your 'invitation only' audience. Nevertheless, if you were trying to interest me it didn't work (I'm still not sure who the site is for or what it's about). I did what i usually do which is run the site through the good ol' validator http://validator.w3.org/ which turned up a few (OK, 9) easily fixed errors which you might want to sort out. A quick squiz at the source code revealed that you're using inline CSS. You may want to move these styles to an external stylesheet, which you will save on download time. That's about it. David On 02/03/2005, at 8:52 PM, Levi wrote: No replied after 13 days... yeesh. Was it that bad or that good? no comments at all? worked perfect on everyone's computer/browsers? here is the url again: http://ffxi.anime-madness.com -levi On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:36:17 -0500, Levi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, I've been coming signed up only a few weeks here and have read only two dozen or so topics, mainly because I've been working on a new site and have had midterms to study for (UCF student in Orlando). The site was completed on the 11th though I am still working on backend PHP functionality. If some of you professionals could run it through the gauntlet, that would probably helpful to me (I find it hard to get rid of the if they don't use IE6.x or Firefox, screw them anyway, my sites aren't selling anything mentality). Two pages wont show up as XHTML Transitional complaint because they are using Flash (I've only seen one solution to making compliant html flash implementation and I disliked the drawbacks of not being able to inform the user to upgrade their Flash if they are using an old version). Thanks for any replies. http://ffxi.anime-madness.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** David McKinnon 15/6 Pigott Street Dulwich Hill NSW 2203 02 9518 1728 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review Please
The modular interface on top is kind of cool. To me it feels like the whole thing should be certered with a black background. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review
Neerav wrote: Looks nice, wish I could afford it :-) The only 2 small problems I see are caused by the standard text size being too small, so I choose medium size text (in Firefox 1.0 Win 2000 1024x768) and: 1. Making your African Dreams a Reality! is overlapped by Lodges Hotels 2. Terms Conditions and Office Information overlap each other Interesting. I'm viewing it in firefox 1.0.2 XP with the same resolution, but there's no overlapping? Mabye it's been fixed already ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site review
Hi all, We have recently launched http://www.getawayafrica.com/, your comments are welcome. But would like to know more about if you have any problems with the site. Just a note, the client is still inputting content. Kind Regards Jacobus van Niekerk Creative Consultant web: http://www.catics.com/ | http://www.freelancecontractors.com tel: + 27 21 982 7805 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review
Looks nice, wish I could afford it :-) The only 2 small problems I see are caused by the standard text size being too small, so I choose medium size text (in Firefox 1.0 Win 2000 1024x768) and: 1. Making your African Dreams a Reality! is overlapped by Lodges Hotels 2. Terms Conditions and Office Information overlap each other -- Neerav Bhatt http://www.bhatt.id.au Web Development IT consultancy http://www.bhatt.id.au/blog/ - Ramblings Thoughts http://www.bhatt.id.au/photos/ http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/neerav Jacobus van Niekerk wrote: Hi all, We have recently launched http://www.getawayafrica.com/, your comments are welcome. But would like to know more about if you have any problems with the site. Just a note, the client is still inputting content. Kind Regards Jacobus van Niekerk Creative Consultant web: http://www.catics.com/ | http://www.freelancecontractors.com tel: + 27 21 982 7805 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site review
Great Site Everything works OK. regards --- Vision.To Design Femi Hasani www.vision.to [EMAIL PROTECTED] +46 736 009 555 Sweden / Suedi www.coder24.com www.wowdev.com --- - Original Message - From: Jacobus van Niekerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 08:15 Subject: [WSG] Site review Hi all, We have recently launched http://www.getawayafrica.com/, your comments are welcome. But would like to know more about if you have any problems with the site. Just a note, the client is still inputting content. Kind Regards Jacobus van Niekerk Creative Consultant web: http://www.catics.com/ | http://www.freelancecontractors.com tel: + 27 21 982 7805 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
All, Without out taking up too much of your time, itd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ and let me know anything that leaps in your face as bad. Please be brutal. Im hoping there wont be too much of a beating, but if there is Id prefer to do it now before we dump in all the content and move to production. (PS. Notice the XHTML1.1 validating ASP.NET? J) Thanks in advance! Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance www.fueladvance.com
Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
On 22 Mar 2005, at 23:34, Tatham Oddie wrote: All, Without out taking up too much of your time, itd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ and let me know anything that leaps in your face as bad. Please be brutal. (PS. Notice the XHTML1.1 validating ASP.NET? J) Non validating. You have a HTML in your supposedly validating XML document. You should check the w3c media type recommendations as you are sending your document as text/html and it shouldn't be. Perhaps you should try HTML 4.01 Strict. -- Paul Connolley - http://shunuk.co.uk/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
Other than the 404 errors on some of the menu items (which I assume you already knew about :) the only thing I can see is a couple of validation issues: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//testdrive.fueladvance.com/Default.aspx just to do with the html tag Otherwise looking good. Glenn Tatham Oddie wrote: All, Without out taking up too much of your time, itd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ and let me know anything that leaps in your face as bad. Please be brutal. Im hoping there wont be too much of a beating, but if there is Id prefer to do it now before we dump in all the content and move to production. (PS. Notice the XHTML1.1 validating ASP.NET? J) Thanks in advance! Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance www.fueladvance.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:38 +1100, Tatham Oddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without out taking up too much of your time, it'd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ [...] Nice, clean, and simple. Setting font-size 0.9em on the body is doing a number in IE on zoom. To avoid that bug use %, preferably 100% or 100.01%. Those of us who can't remember our 40th birthday party will be grateful. There seems to be no alt text for the title, and the navigation breaks a bit too early on zoom. There's a need to correct some HTML errors. Tatham Oddie Best, David -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
Ok... tad embarrassed right now. Not that this is my staging location - so I upload to it every few minutes. It *was* working... I emailed you... I broke it... you looked. Now works again - I think. Do you mind checking the XHTML compliance again for me? Thanks! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Connolley Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:09 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com On 22 Mar 2005, at 23:34, Tatham Oddie wrote: All, Without out taking up too much of your time, it'd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ and let me know anything that leaps in your face as bad. Please be brutal. (PS. Notice the XHTML1.1 validating ASP.NET? J) Non validating. You have a HTML in your supposedly validating XML document. You should check the w3c media type recommendations as you are sending your document as text/html and it shouldn't be. Perhaps you should try HTML 4.01 Strict. -- Paul Connolley - http://shunuk.co.uk/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
Seems to validate as XHTML 1.0 strict...maybe that was the doc type you had in mind when coding? http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftestdrive.fueladvance.com %2FDefault.aspxcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=XHTML+1.0 +Strictverbose=1 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 19:28 -0500, David Laakso wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:38 +1100, Tatham Oddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without out taking up too much of your time, it'd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ [...] Nice, clean, and simple. Setting font-size 0.9em on the body is doing a number in IE on zoom. To avoid that bug use %, preferably 100% or 100.01%. Those of us who can't remember our 40th birthday party will be grateful. There seems to be no alt text for the title, and the navigation breaks a bit too early on zoom. There's a need to correct some HTML errors. Tatham Oddie Best, David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
David, Thanks for taking the time to look. I had totally forgotten to test font-zooming (too excited to launch it) so I'll look into this. As for the alt text - there's no image! If you take a look at the HTML it is just a series of H1 and H2 elements. The image replacement is done totally using CSS. What were the HTML errors you found? Thanks again! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Laakso Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:29 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:38 +1100, Tatham Oddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without out taking up too much of your time, it'd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ [...] Nice, clean, and simple. Setting font-size 0.9em on the body is doing a number in IE on zoom. To avoid that bug use %, preferably 100% or 100.01%. Those of us who can't remember our 40th birthday party will be grateful. There seems to be no alt text for the title, and the navigation breaks a bit too early on zoom. There's a need to correct some HTML errors. Tatham Oddie Best, David -- de gustibus non est disputandum http://www.dlaakso.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
It seems to validate fine as XHTML 1.1 for me: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A//testdrive.fueladvance.c om/Default.aspx And that's the doctype on all the pages. I'm getting kinda confused as to how we're getting different results here... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of diona kidd Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2005 11:59 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com Seems to validate as XHTML 1.0 strict...maybe that was the doc type you had in mind when coding? http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Ftestdrive.fueladvance.com %2FDefault.aspxcharset=%28detect+automatically%29doctype=XHTML+1.0 +Strictverbose=1 On Tue, 2005-03-22 at 19:28 -0500, David Laakso wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:38 +1100, Tatham Oddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Without out taking up too much of your time, it'd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ [...] Nice, clean, and simple. Setting font-size 0.9em on the body is doing a number in IE on zoom. To avoid that bug use %, preferably 100% or 100.01%. Those of us who can't remember our 40th birthday party will be grateful. There seems to be no alt text for the title, and the navigation breaks a bit too early on zoom. There's a need to correct some HTML errors. Tatham Oddie Best, David ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 11:58:24 +1100, Tatham Oddie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, [...] As for the alt text - there's no image! If you take a look at the HTML it is just a series of H1 and H2 elements. The image replacement is done totally using CSS. In FF there are two words Fuel Advance-- they are in the top-left corner of the viewport, yellow, and and approx. 2px high. In IE accessibility mode the words fueladvance.com completely sit on top of the words testdrive making all of it unreadable. You're good to go in Opera. What were the HTML errors you found? Your file validates, now. Regards, David [...] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
Tatham Oddie wrote: I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- All, Without out taking up too much of your time, itd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ and let me know anything that leaps in your face as bad. Please be brutal. Im hoping there wont be too much of a beating, but if there is Id prefer to do it now before we dump in all the content and move to production. (PS. Notice the XHTML1.1 validating ASP.NET? J) Thanks in advance! Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance www.fueladvance.com My local version of Tidy is complaining about the empty p tag on line 77 on the main page - it's just a warning however. div class="contentBlock" h2Extranet Login/h2 fieldset labelExtranet Login/label p /p div REFERENCE: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-P W3C: "We discourage authors from using empty P elements. User agents should ignore empty P elements." However when I strip it - your content boxes no long line up in FF. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog :: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone :: 651-204-0513
RE: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com
Thanks Peter Just to make it clear that P tag isnt always empty, its where messages like Invalid Credentials appear. I should make the whole element dynamic rather than just the content. It certainly isnt there for any presentation reason Ill look into what happens when I make the whole thing dynamic. Tat From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter J. Farrell Sent: Wednesday, 23 March 2005 1:45 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review: testdrive.fueladvance.com Tatham Oddie wrote: I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- All, Without out taking up too much of your time, itd be great if you could take a look at http://testdrive.fueladvance.com/ and let me know anything that leaps in your face as bad. Please be brutal. Im hoping there wont be too much of a beating, but if there is Id prefer to do it now before we dump in all the content and move to production. (PS. Notice the XHTML1.1 validating ASP.NET? J) Thanks in advance! Tatham Oddie Fuel Advance www.fueladvance.com My local version of Tidy is complaining about the empty p tag on line 77 on the main page - it's just a warning however. div class=contentBlock h2Extranet Login/h2 fieldset labelExtranet Login/label p /p div REFERENCE: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/text.html#edef-P W3C: We discourage authors from using empty P elements. User agents should ignore empty P elements. However when I strip it - your content boxes no long line up in FF. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishingblog :: http://blog.maestropublishing.comemail :: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone :: 651-204-0513
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
Thank you Peter for the quick response and heads-up! I'm puzzled because I'm using Windows XP Home edition and checked the site in IE 6 and FF 1.0, and the logo isn't skewed. I'm using absolute positioning for the logo, therefore if any of the many WSG experts can provide some advice, or solution it would be greatly appreicated. Thanks again Peter. Kind regards, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning mates, I've just completed a re-design of a customer's site using web standards. My XHTML (strict) and CSS validate with no errors. I'm primarily interested in feedback pertaining to my code and how closely it adheres to proper semantic markup. In addition, any input regarding my CSS syntax and structure is also greatly appreciated. Of course, suggestions or comments on the site's design are always welcomed. Customer site: http://www.coylemedical.com/ I've been designing for 7 years, but studying web standards for about 15 months, and still consider myself a beginner. I did check the site in FF 1.0, Opera 7.4 and IE 6 with a few minor display differences. Please know that 78% of my visitors use IE based on my traffic report. Respectfully requested, Mario S. Cisneros This is my first post to the list. I'm a complete newbie. There appears to be a problem with the alignment of the logo in FF 1.0.1 - Win XP Pro. It also appears the same way on in IE 6. Screen shot here: http://maestropublishing.com/examples/coylemedical_logo_scrnprint.png I'm a system programmer and I'm pretty new to css (learning it on the side), so I'm not sure of the fix for this. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog :: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\RUN C:\WINDOWS\RUN\AMUCK -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
G'day I'm puzzled because I'm using Windows XP Home edition and checked the site in IE 6 and FF 1.0, and the logo isn't skewed. I'm using absolute positioning for the logo, therefore if any of the many WSG experts can provide some advice, or solution it would be greatly appreicated. I'd say you are assuming everybody has the same screen resolution as you (looks like it's built for 1024x768, not accounting for wider or narrower scrollbars, side panels, non maximised windows etc). At 800x600, the logo shifts to the right (over the top of other pictures) and at resolutions above 1024x768 it sticks out on the left. Stats vary, but this site will have the formatting problem for a sizeable portion of visitors (perhaps half), The absolute positioning you mentioned is the cause of your problem. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thank you Peter for the quick response and heads-up! I'm puzzled because I'm using Windows XP Home edition and checked the site in IE 6 and FF 1.0, and the logo isn't skewed. I'm using absolute positioning for the logo, therefore if any of the many WSG experts can provide some advice, or solution it would be greatly appreicated. The logo is skewed in FF and IE6 as you are positioning this #logo a.p. with respect to the viewport, not with respect to the centered #container. As already mentioned, check your page in different resolutions to see. If you want to position this #logo absolute, you might set #container { position: relative; } and adjust the top/left-offsets in #logo Another attempt: float this #logo. IE6: Depending on the viewport-size (try in 1280x1024 and resize the window), you'll notice that the margin on the left and right of the #centercolumn { .. float: left; ... margin-left: 1.5%; margin-right: 1.5%; ...} will grow or shrink, in complete disregard of the container's px-fixed-width #container { ... width: 760px; } So IE6 shows the quirky percentages bug [1]: IE6 doesn't compute the percentage-margin of #centercolumn with respect to the #container, but with respect to the viewport in this situation. And this may cause the drop of the right column-float under the content when the viewport is sized wide enough. You don't have to struggle with the percentages here, just don't let IE calculate 1.5%*760px. Another attempt: set #rightcolumn {float: right}, you wouldn't have to worry about margins between them. Or give a more flexible design concept a try. regards, Ingo [1]: http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer/percentages.html ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
Ingo Chao schrieb: And this may cause the drop of the right column-float under the content when the viewport is sized wide enough. Sorry, maybe this effect is not reproduceable on your font/screen/cache settings, so here is a screenshot of the drop in IE6 http://www.satzansatz.de/cssd/tmp/floatdrop.jpg Ingo ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
Thanks Bert, but please know that I didn't make any assumptions about screen resolution, but simply failed to checked the site in 800X600. I always check my sites in different screen resolutions, but dropped the ball this time. Thanks for the reminder, and I'll fix the problem accordingly. Kind regards, Mario G'day I'm puzzled because I'm using Windows XP Home edition and checked the site in IE 6 and FF 1.0, and the logo isn't skewed. I'm using absolute positioning for the logo, therefore if any of the many WSG experts can provide some advice, or solution it would be greatly appreicated. I'd say you are assuming everybody has the same screen resolution as you (looks like it's built for 1024x768, not accounting for wider or narrower scrollbars, side panels, non maximised windows etc). At 800x600, the logo shifts to the right (over the top of other pictures) and at resolutions above 1024x768 it sticks out on the left. Stats vary, but this site will have the formatting problem for a sizeable portion of visitors (perhaps half), The absolute positioning you mentioned is the cause of your problem. Regards -- Bert Doorn, Better Web Design http://www.betterwebdesign.com.au/ Fast-loading, user-friendly websites ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
Good morning mates, I've just completed a re-design of a customer's site using web standards. My XHTML (strict) and CSS validate with no errors. I'm primarily interested in feedback pertaining to my code and how closely it adheres to proper semantic markup. In addition, any input regarding my CSS syntax and structure is also greatly appreciated. Of course, suggestions or comments on the site's design are always welcomed. Customer site: http://www.coylemedical.com/ I've been designing for 7 years, but studying web standards for about 15 months, and still consider myself a beginner. I did check the site in FF 1.0, Opera 7.4 and IE 6 with a few minor display differences. Please know that 78% of my visitors use IE based on my traffic report. Respectfully requested, Mario S. Cisneros ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning mates, I've just completed a re-design of a customer's site using web standards. My XHTML (strict) and CSS validate with no errors. I'm primarily interested in feedback pertaining to my code and how closely it adheres to proper semantic markup. In addition, any input regarding my CSS syntax and structure is also greatly appreciated. Of course, suggestions or comments on the site's design are always welcomed. Customer site: http://www.coylemedical.com/ I've been designing for 7 years, but studying web standards for about 15 months, and still consider myself a beginner. I did check the site in FF 1.0, Opera 7.4 and IE 6 with a few minor display differences. Please know that 78% of my visitors use IE based on my traffic report. Respectfully requested, Mario S. Cisneros This is my first post to the list. I'm a complete newbie. There appears to be a problem with the alignment of the logo in FF 1.0.1 - Win XP Pro. It also appears the same way on in IE 6. Screen shot here: http://maestropublishing.com/examples/coylemedical_logo_scrnprint.png I'm a system programmer and I'm pretty new to css (learning it on the side), so I'm not sure of the fix for this. -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] C:\WINDOWS C:\WINDOWS\RUN C:\WINDOWS\RUN\AMUCK -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - coylemedical.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning mates, I've just completed a re-design of a customer's site using web standards. My XHTML (strict) and CSS validate with no errors. I'm primarily interested in feedback pertaining to my code and how closely it adheres to proper semantic markup. In addition, any input regarding my CSS syntax and structure is also greatly appreciated. Of course, suggestions or comments on the site's design are always welcomed. Customer site: http://www.coylemedical.com/ I've been designing for 7 years, but studying web standards for about 15 months, and still consider myself a beginner. I did check the site in FF 1.0, Opera 7.4 and IE 6 with a few minor display differences. Please know that 78% of my visitors use IE based on my traffic report. Respectfully requested, Mario S. Cisneros Also, IE 6 appear strangely as well: http://maestropublishing.com/examples/coylemedical_logo_scrnprint_2.png -- Peter J. Farrell :: Maestro Publishing blog:: http://blog.maestropublishing.com email :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone :: 651-204-0513 I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. -- ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Title: RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards ...I'd wait until AFTER your page validates before saying things like that, and check! (http://www.autotrader.co.uk) Your fieldsets are also missing legends Jamie
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Dear Mr. Mason. I suppose that you DIDN´T understood what i wrote before. I said X HTML Web Standards, and for me, that site, even uses HTML tags as you can see follows... div style=position:absolute;left:0px;top:117px;color:white; bTo activate all search settings above pleasefont color=red a href=javascript:window.location='http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/login/uk/WWW2? su=1amp;cp='+escape(window.location);login./a /fontnbsp;nbsp;If you do not have an account pleasefont color=red a href=javascript:window.location='http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/reg/uk/WWW2?s=1amp; cp='+escape(window.location);register/a/font/b/div/div/div/form/div Sorry, but you would reconsider you comments, and read more before take an opinion. by the way, the website is already validated. best regards, Genau L. Jr http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Jamie Mason wrote: We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards ...I'd wait until AFTER your page validates before saying things like that, and check! (http://www.autotrader.co.uk) Your fieldsets are also missing legends Jamie ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Title: RE: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL Am I looking at the right site? http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1=http%3A//www.meucarronovo.com.br/ doesn't validate -Original Message- From: Genau Lopes Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 March 2005 13:46 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL Dear Mr. Mason. I suppose that you DIDN´T understood what i wrote before. I said X HTML Web Standards, and for me, that site, even uses HTML tags as you can see follows... div style=position:absolute;left:0px;top:117px;color:white; bTo activate all search settings above pleasefont color=red a href="" href="http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/login/uk/WWW2" TARGET="_blank">http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/login/uk/WWW2? su=1amp;cp='+escape(window.location);login./a /fontnbsp;nbsp;If you do not have an account pleasefont color=red a href="" href="http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/reg/uk/WWW2?s=1" TARGET="_blank">http://registration.autotrader.co.uk/reg/uk/WWW2?s=1 cp='+escape(window.location);register/a/font/b/div/div/div/form/div Sorry, but you would reconsider you comments, and read more before take an opinion. by the way, the website is already validated. best regards, Genau L. Jr http://www.meucarronovo.com.br Jamie Mason wrote: We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards ...I'd wait until AFTER your page validates before saying things like that, and check! (http://www.autotrader.co.uk) Your fieldsets are also missing legends Jamie ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
Hi, I would like to show you some improvements that we did in our Portal. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br After some advices about our XHTML validation, we almost fixed all bugs in xhtml, leaving just one bit problem with our js function that detects the resolution to advertisement skyscrapper. We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards, iether using some Disabilities functions like ShortTag, to users with Carpal Tunnel and notebooks users. (as you can see http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/acessibilidade.php ). I would like to thanks all people that help us to improve the quality standards and ask for some Advices and oppinions. Thanks , Genau Lopes Junior Webdesigner/MediaDeveloper www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL
good work, only two things : http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.meucarronovo.com.br%2F;verbose=1 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/c/mcn.css regards Daniele http://www.gizax.it Internet Accessibility - Original Message - From: Genau Lopes Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 2:59 PM Subject: [WSG] Site Review - CAR SELLER PORTAL Hi, I would like to show you some improvements that we did in our Portal. http://www.meucarronovo.com.br After some advices about our XHTML validation, we almost fixed all bugs in xhtml, leaving just one bit problem with our js function that detects the resolution to advertisement skyscrapper. We proud to be the first car seller world wide portal to use XHTML and Webstandards, iether using some Disabilities functions like ShortTag, to users with Carpal Tunnel and notebooks users. (as you can see http://www.meucarronovo.com.br/acessibilidade.php ). I would like to thanks all people that help us to improve the quality standards and ask for some Advices and oppinions. Thanks , Genau Lopes Junior Webdesigner/MediaDeveloper www.meucarronovo.com.br/quemsomos.php ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **