RE: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread Peter Tilbrook
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John said:
"What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the code to
an implicit 300 DPI or so? Exactly what I've regarded as a cardinal sin all
these years?"

Can you serve the image as a background image from the style sheet, then you
can have the print sheet serving the large image and the screen sheet
serving a 72dpi version?

Aaron

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Re: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread Ben Curtis

John said:
"What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the
code to an implicit 300 DPI or so? Exactly what I've regarded as a
cardinal sin all these years?"
http://www.spartanicus.utvinternet.ie/print_high_resolution_images.htm
I've used both of these. They work tolerably well. I haven't come up 
with a cross-browser technique that combines the compatibility of the 
first with the second technique's ability to download just the image 
you need.

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Re: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread jake
Unfortunately the machines our test lab aren't hooked up to a printer, but it
worked fine in IE6 and Firefox (PC).

Jake

Quoting Matthew Cruickshank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >That's what we do at DEWR for our minister's press releases. It seems to
> work
> >well enough, I'm not sure if it's semantically correct, but hey it works.
> >
> >
> Any idea of the browser support?
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> .Matthew Cruickshank
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RE: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
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>
> John said:
> "What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the
> code to an implicit 300 DPI or so? Exactly what I've regarded as a
> cardinal sin all these years?"
>
> Can you serve the image as a background image from the style
> sheet, then you
> can have the print sheet serving the large image and the screen sheet
> serving a 72dpi version?

Would be a great way of doing it, but not all browsers print background
images. You would have to rely on the user having the right browser with the
right setting.


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RE: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread jake
No, what happens is that the larger version will print larger (in dimensions)
rather than at a higher resolution. The only solution I found was to have the
image at a high resolution then scale it down using the html width and height
attributes on the image tag. Of course that means that everyone who loads the
image will have to download the print resolution image, but in our case at
least it was just a 1bit B&W gif so it wasn't all that big.

Jake

Quoting Website Direction Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> John said:
> "What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the
> code to an implicit 300 DPI or so? Exactly what I've regarded as a
> cardinal sin all these years?"
>
> Can you serve the image as a background image from the style sheet, then you
> can have the print sheet serving the large image and the screen sheet
> serving a 72dpi version?
>
> Aaron
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Re: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread Matthew Cruickshank
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's what we do at DEWR for our minister's press releases. It seems to work
well enough, I'm not sure if it's semantically correct, but hey it works.
 

Any idea of the browser support?

.Matthew Cruickshank
http://holloway.co.nz/
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RE: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread Website Direction Ltd
John said:
"What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the 
code to an implicit 300 DPI or so? Exactly what I've regarded as a 
cardinal sin all these years?"

Can you serve the image as a background image from the style sheet, then you
can have the print sheet serving the large image and the screen sheet
serving a 72dpi version?

Aaron

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Re: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread jake
That's what we do at DEWR for our minister's press releases. It seems to work
well enough, I'm not sure if it's semantically correct, but hey it works.

J

Quoting John Horner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Something came up that I hope you won't mind my asking on this list.
>
> I've got a database with a web interface, and one of the things I
> want to do with the content is print letters to send by physical mail.
>
> So for the first time in my life I want to put an image into an HTML
> document with greater-than-72-DPI resolution.
>
> I want to do that so that it prints out at decent quality on a laser printer.
>
> What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the
> code to an implicit 300 DPI or so? Exactly what I've regarded as a
> cardinal sin all these years?
> 
> "Have You Validated Your Code?"
> John Horner(+612 / 02) 9333 3488
> Senior Developer, ABC Online  http://www.abc.net.au/
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Re: [WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread Rimantas Liubertas
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 10:32:37 +1100, John Horner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<...> 
> So for the first time in my life I want to put an image into an HTML
> document with greater-than-72-DPI resolution.

In html DPI doesn't matter - only dimension in pixels do.
DPI is for print, but, alas - not from the browsers. 
Browsers try to reproduce on paper what you see on screen, so they will
use suitable DPI, not the one specified in file.

The only hope is that they behave differently for the print stylesheets,
but this requires testing.

Some related reading:  http://www.webdevelopersjournal.com/columns/ajs_ppi.html

Regards,
Rimantas
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[WSG] Somewhat OT - VERY print friendly?

2004-12-13 Thread John Horner
Something came up that I hope you won't mind my asking on this list.
I've got a database with a web interface, and one of the things I 
want to do with the content is print letters to send by physical mail.

So for the first time in my life I want to put an image into an HTML 
document with greater-than-72-DPI resolution.

I want to do that so that it prints out at decent quality on a laser printer.
What would you do? Make a huge image then force-shrink it using the 
code to an implicit 300 DPI or so? Exactly what I've regarded as a 
cardinal sin all these years?

   "Have You Validated Your Code?"
John Horner(+612 / 02) 9333 3488
Senior Developer, ABC Online  http://www.abc.net.au/


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