RE: [WSG] Test in Outlook 2007
Paul, Office 2007 uses the Word rendering engine which is quite a different beast from any browser, and even quite different to Outlook 2003 (which used the IE engine for rendering and Word for composing). You may find other tools like Campaign Monitor which run an instance and deliver the result, but I'd be very wary about trusting any arbitrarily created emulations. Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 206 331 5568, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: http://tixi.com.au/ tixi.com.au - Ticketing without the dramas From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 12:07 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Test in Outlook 2007 Hi all, Just wondering, has anyone ever figured out a way of testing Outlook 2007 when you don't have it installed? Wondering if there is some kind of online software that emulates it perhaps? Campaign Monitor offers testing, but it costs a fiver each time you want to check. Would appreciate any help. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Test in Outlook 2007
You can also just download the Office trial and run it in a VM ... Won't cost you a cent and you get instant feedback. Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 206 331 5568, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: http://tixi.com.au/ tixi.com.au - Ticketing without the dramas From: Tatham Oddie [mailto:tat...@oddie.com.au] Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 12:57 AM To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' Subject: RE: [WSG] Test in Outlook 2007 Paul, Office 2007 uses the Word rendering engine which is quite a different beast from any browser, and even quite different to Outlook 2003 (which used the IE engine for rendering and Word for composing). You may find other tools like Campaign Monitor which run an instance and deliver the result, but I'd be very wary about trusting any arbitrarily created emulations. Thanks, Tatham Oddie au mob: +61 414 275 989, us cell: +1 206 331 5568, skype: tathamoddie, landline: +61 2 8011 3982, fax: +61 2 9475 5172 my business: http://tixi.com.au/ tixi.com.au - Ticketing without the dramas From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Paul Collins Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 12:07 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Test in Outlook 2007 Hi all, Just wondering, has anyone ever figured out a way of testing Outlook 2007 when you don't have it installed? Wondering if there is some kind of online software that emulates it perhaps? Campaign Monitor offers testing, but it costs a fiver each time you want to check. Would appreciate any help. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Test in Outlook 2007
Hi all, Just wondering, has anyone ever figured out a way of testing Outlook 2007 when you don't have it installed? Wondering if there is some kind of online software that emulates it perhaps? Campaign Monitor offers testing, but it costs a fiver each time you want to check. Would appreciate any help. Cheers Paul *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
[WSG] Test Plans
Hi All. Im not familiar with test plans for Websites, i have my own way of running tests that usually run of what the client wants i.e: Is the header 320px heigh? and does it expand when the font size is incremented?. I have to do an in depth test plan for an assignment, which i would also use for future jobs. Has anyone got any good resources on test plans? I'd like to see a few government ones if possible and some 'standard' or 'defacto' plans if possible. Im not sure if this topic borderlines on being removed, but i feel its standards related and most the users here work or have worked for companies that use them or they use themselves so i felt i'd get a better response. Cheers guys. I await your replies and thanks for your time. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Test Plans
When you talk about 'standard' or 'government' test plans, what you mean is documentation as per IEE 829. Unfortunately this is an appallingly bad standard that guarantees inefficient and ineffective testing. However, this is what most test consultants peddle because it's easy to teach and some people are impressed by huge piles of test scripts (you might have guessed I'm not). It also maximises consultants' incomes because everything takes much longer than it needs to. I have run an outsource testing company for 6 years and we never use this type of documentation. I have many other resources that may be useful so I'll contact you off-list. Steve Green www.labscape.co.uk _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Jeffery Sent: 15 January 2008 12:09 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Test Plans Hi All. Im not familiar with test plans for Websites, i have my own way of running tests that usually run of what the client wants i.e: Is the header 320px heigh? and does it expand when the font size is incremented?. I have to do an in depth test plan for an assignment, which i would also use for future jobs. Has anyone got any good resources on test plans? I'd like to see a few government ones if possible and some 'standard' or 'defacto' plans if possible. Im not sure if this topic borderlines on being removed, but i feel its standards related and most the users here work or have worked for companies that use them or they use themselves so i felt i'd get a better response. Cheers guys. I await your replies and thanks for your time. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Test Plans
I'd love to see the stuff online. I think this is a very important part of web standards. QA should not be an afterthought but an integral part of the process. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Steve Green wrote: When you talk about 'standard' or 'government' test plans, what you mean is documentation as per IEE 829. Unfortunately this is an appallingly bad standard that guarantees inefficient and ineffective testing. However, this is what most test consultants peddle because it's easy to teach and some people are impressed by huge piles of test scripts (you might have guessed I'm not). It also maximises consultants' incomes because everything takes much longer than it needs to. I have run an outsource testing company for 6 years and we never use this type of documentation. I have many other resources that may be useful so I'll contact you off-list. Steve Green www.labscape.co.uk http://www.labscape.co.uk *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *James Jeffery *Sent:* 15 January 2008 12:09 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* [WSG] Test Plans Hi All. Im not familiar with test plans for Websites, i have my own way of running tests that usually run of what the client wants i.e: Is the header 320px heigh? and does it expand when the font size is incremented?. I have to do an in depth test plan for an assignment, which i would also use for future jobs. Has anyone got any good resources on test plans? I'd like to see a few government ones if possible and some 'standard' or 'defacto' plans if possible. Im not sure if this topic borderlines on being removed, but i feel its standards related and most the users here work or have worked for companies that use them or they use themselves so i felt i'd get a better response. Cheers guys. I await your replies and thanks for your time. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Test Plans
I've just sent James a heap of sample test plans and stuff, but unfortunately very little of it is online because it's mostly stuff I've collected over the years in case it was ever useful (it wasn't). If you want to learn about how to do bad testing, just Google IEE 829 or ISEB. If you want to learn about good testing, read the following: www.context-driven-testing.com Everything written by Cem Kaner - www.kaner.com Everything written by James Bach - www.satisfice.com Bret Pettichord's four schools of testing - http://www.io.com/~wazmo/papers/four_schools.pdf If anyone wants to know more it's probably best to email me off-list. Steve www.labscape.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Horowitz Sent: 15 January 2008 17:54 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Test Plans I'd love to see the stuff online. I think this is a very important part of web standards. QA should not be an afterthought but an integral part of the process. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Steve Green wrote: When you talk about 'standard' or 'government' test plans, what you mean is documentation as per IEE 829. Unfortunately this is an appallingly bad standard that guarantees inefficient and ineffective testing. However, this is what most test consultants peddle because it's easy to teach and some people are impressed by huge piles of test scripts (you might have guessed I'm not). It also maximises consultants' incomes because everything takes much longer than it needs to. I have run an outsource testing company for 6 years and we never use this type of documentation. I have many other resources that may be useful so I'll contact you off-list. Steve Green www.labscape.co.uk http://www.labscape.co.uk -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *James Jeffery *Sent:* 15 January 2008 12:09 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* [WSG] Test Plans Hi All. Im not familiar with test plans for Websites, i have my own way of running tests that usually run of what the client wants i.e: Is the header 320px heigh? and does it expand when the font size is incremented?. I have to do an in depth test plan for an assignment, which i would also use for future jobs. Has anyone got any good resources on test plans? I'd like to see a few government ones if possible and some 'standard' or 'defacto' plans if possible. Im not sure if this topic borderlines on being removed, but i feel its standards related and most the users here work or have worked for companies that use them or they use themselves so i felt i'd get a better response. Cheers guys. I await your replies and thanks for your time. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Test Plans
Guys, all i can say is WOW! and thanks alot. I didn't expect many replies and surprisingly everyone kept on topic (which is good). I thank everyone for their replies and thanks a million steve, really appreciate that mate. Ill spend all night tonight on research and as well as meeting the assignment guidelines this will give me an insight into something ive never really looked into much before. Cheers. On Jan 15, 2008 6:58 PM, Steve Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just sent James a heap of sample test plans and stuff, but unfortunately very little of it is online because it's mostly stuff I've collected over the years in case it was ever useful (it wasn't). If you want to learn about how to do bad testing, just Google IEE 829 or ISEB. If you want to learn about good testing, read the following: www.context-driven-testing.com Everything written by Cem Kaner - www.kaner.com Everything written by James Bach - www.satisfice.com Bret Pettichord's four schools of testing - http://www.io.com/~wazmo/papers/four_schools.pdfhttp://www.io.com/%7Ewazmo/papers/four_schools.pdf If anyone wants to know more it's probably best to email me off-list. Steve www.labscape.co.uk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Horowitz Sent: 15 January 2008 17:54 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Test Plans I'd love to see the stuff online. I think this is a very important part of web standards. QA should not be an afterthought but an integral part of the process. Michael Horowitz Your Computer Consultant http://yourcomputerconsultant.com 561-394-9079 Steve Green wrote: When you talk about 'standard' or 'government' test plans, what you mean is documentation as per IEE 829. Unfortunately this is an appallingly bad standard that guarantees inefficient and ineffective testing. However, this is what most test consultants peddle because it's easy to teach and some people are impressed by huge piles of test scripts (you might have guessed I'm not). It also maximises consultants' incomes because everything takes much longer than it needs to. I have run an outsource testing company for 6 years and we never use this type of documentation. I have many other resources that may be useful so I'll contact you off-list. Steve Green www.labscape.co.uk http://www.labscape.co.uk -- -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *James Jeffery *Sent:* 15 January 2008 12:09 *To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org *Subject:* [WSG] Test Plans Hi All. Im not familiar with test plans for Websites, i have my own way of running tests that usually run of what the client wants i.e: Is the header 320px heigh? and does it expand when the font size is incremented?. I have to do an in depth test plan for an assignment, which i would also use for future jobs. Has anyone got any good resources on test plans? I'd like to see a few government ones if possible and some 'standard' or 'defacto' plans if possible. Im not sure if this topic borderlines on being removed, but i feel its standards related and most the users here work or have worked for companies that use them or they use themselves so i felt i'd get a better response. Cheers guys. I await your replies and thanks for your time. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] Test
Hi, The duplicate posts are coming from a Globe IT server in the Netherlands. I have blocked the IP address 217.148.170.240 So we'll see if this message comes back... Please don't reply to this post. Peter Firminger *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] test-dont read
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